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Old January 9th, 2008 (11:51 PM).
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    Finally China and Australia are going towards banning Plastic bags (or creating a Levy for them)
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    Consumers will pay for plastic bag ban: retailers
    The Australian Retailers Association (ARA) says consumers will be the ones who pay if the Federal Government bans plastic shopping bags.

    Federal Environment Minister Peter Garrett says he wants a phase out of plastic shopping bags introduced within the year.

    The Government is under pressure to act quickly after the Chinese Government yesterday announced plans to ban free plastic shopping bags within six months.

    The Association's Richard Evans says retailers have been leading on the issue for over five years with supermarkets already reducing their use of plastic bags by 50 per cent.

    "They'll comply, as any legislation will require people to comply, but what will happen is that consumers will pay more," he said.

    "You can't legislate to change people's behaviour and that's what we've got here.

    "We've got people suggesting that to save the planet you need to legislate - anyone who thinks you can legislate to save the planet is off the planet."

    Mr Evans says the Government needs to offer other solutions.

    "The issues to us though, is what's the alternative, and where do you draw the line?" he said.

    "Do you draw the line at carry bags or what about plastic bags covering dry cleaning, for instance.

    "What we need is litter management. Biodegradable bags are being used but there's other alternatives.

    "The question is, if you ban plastic bags, what is the alternative - there's been no suggestion from the Government on how to do that."

    Mr Garrett will meet his state and territory counterparts in April to discuss introducing a phase-out by the end of the year.
    Also, in mX newspaper (Australian Free Newspaper),
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    The amount of Plastic bags china wastes in a week, australia wastes in a year.
    Australian Supermarkets, handout approximately 13 million plastic bags a day.


    I think they are finally doing something right... I mean.. we alredy have envio friendly bags =]
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    Old January 10th, 2008 (1:01 AM).
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    Eh, I just heard about it on TV a few hours ago. I wasn't really paying attention. Honestly, I'm glad this is finally happening. I'm getting sick of plastic bags floating around everywhere. XD
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    Old January 10th, 2008 (4:31 PM).
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      In regards to an alternative, cardboard boxes work for me. Then, where might all the trees come from? Tree farms, of course.
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        The main problem i see in the plastic bags LEVY or ban, is that most friut and veg shops use plastic bags (the mini ones) to group similar items together so that they can be kept together, and it is easier for the clerk to serve the customers... you know, the tiny ones =]
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          hmmm....well hopefully they do get rid of them..i dont want to grow up into a world thats all full of rubbish (even though it is pretty bad now)
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            I actually saw this in my newspaper this morning. I usually use plastic bags, but I won't mind switching if they ban them in the US. Now when I go to China or Australia (if I ever) no plastic bags will get in my way.
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              thats really nice. hope they do it in my country
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                LET'S GO SEE THE THE PRESIDENT AND THE CANDIDATES!!!!

                seriously, paper bags are alot more envierment friendly. I'm glad to hear this- I wonder if the US might take this into consideration?
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                  LET'S GO SEE THE THE PRESIDENT AND THE CANDIDATES!!!!

                  seriously, paper bags are alot more envierment friendly. I'm glad to hear this- I wonder if the US might take this into consideration?
                  They should take it into consideration, and i think they will, it's only a matter of time.
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                    yes, if you didnt already read, the country that wastes the MOST plastic bags (CHINA) is going to wipe it out by june/july (they said halfway thru 2008)...
                    now we just need the EU and america to also make a commitment x.x
                    i think that will decrease the pollution by a MASSIVE amount =]
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                      YES IT WILL! and hopefully someday all plastic bags will be gone.
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                      LET'S GO SEE THE THE PRESIDENT AND THE CANDIDATES!!!!

                      seriously, paper bags are alot more envierment friendly. I'm glad to hear this- I wonder if the US might take this into consideration?
                      I don't see how paper bags will replace plastic bags. They tear easily don't they? The only thing I think will replace them is one of those cotton bags.
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                        Yup enviro-bags are the way to go!
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                        Old January 13th, 2008 (9:41 AM). Edited January 13th, 2008 by latioslegends.
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                          Well thats a start to helping the enviroment, but unfortunely my country would never do it >.< stupid money grubbing poloticians.
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                          Are we talking about the Ziplock Bags? or the Grocery bags which plague our world?

                          I remember one story where an American Kroger bag was found in Russia! Blown across the world by wind alone.
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                          I support making people pay for them as first step. That way, people won't pick a bag in the supermarket for two apples and another one for a milk bottle.
                          We have thousands of bags in our houses. Reusing them would be the first step, as well as changing them for cotton bags (much more resistant than paper bags). Once people gets used to the new system, then I support banning them. If we suddenly ban them, many people would start attacking the decision, and that wouldn't be good.

                          But, yeah, plastic bags are a plague that must be destroyed. For the sake of the world.
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                            I support making people pay for them as first step. That way, people won't pick a bag in the supermarket for two apples and another one for a milk bottle.
                            We have thousands of bags in our houses. Reusing them would be the first step, as well as changing them for cotton bags (much more resistant than paper bags). Once people gets used to the new system, then I support banning them. If we suddenly ban them, many people would start attacking the decision, and that wouldn't be good.

                            But, yeah, plastic bags are a plague that must be destroyed. For the sake of the world.

                            I wa thinking that the fruit and vege shops should use paper to bundle things up, or decomposing Plastic bags to hold the groceries since it will be near impossible to remove plactic bags forever...

                            the levy i would support is:

                            $1 per plastic bag, and since in australia, theenvio bags are $1, peple will buy them instead, and theyre going to decrease the price to about 50 cents i heard :D
                            then it wil be really worth it.

                            and a 10 to 15 C per paper bag.
                            that'll show the anti-envio ppl xD
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                              That idea would work Really good! i support that !
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                                Paper is definately the way to go. They don't painfully snap in your hands either!
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                                what are people going to use instead of plastic????? PAPER and what do we make paper out of? you people can solve that one.
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                                  what are people going to use instead of plastic????? PAPER and what do we make paper out of? you people can solve that one.

                                  yeah... but guess what...
                                  paper is recycleable..
                                  i guess you didnt see that coming..
                                  and also...
                                  paper deals less damage to the enviornment then plastic.
                                  And if you didnt know, we have the other cloth-bags, that are MUCH more durable, inexpensive, and bigger..
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                                  And where does plastic come from? Petroleum! And how long does it take for the bags to descompose? Several centuries!
                                  For some reason I prefer cloth ones.
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