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Old February 11th, 2008 (3:06 PM).
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Oh come on. Seriously? Deoxys-E is one thing- he's practically useless. But Wobby?

On a side note, I just fought someone with this. He killed my Milotic- fortunately, Mixape was enough to fool him into getting me my only kill in the match (Nasty Plot+Flamethrower).
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Old February 11th, 2008 (3:30 PM).
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I've fought a lot of Wobbuffet and it's not that hard to kill. Yeah, sometimes they get a kill in or a stupid Encore, but it's not that hard to get around it. :<
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Old February 11th, 2008 (3:37 PM).
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Well... it's still frickin' Wobbuffet. I'm just not used to seeing it, I guess...
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Old February 11th, 2008 (3:39 PM).
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Old February 11th, 2008 (3:41 PM).
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I love old Wobby just because of the constipated grin.


Who makes the graphs of Pokemon usage? I've met some bizzare people in my time, but these folks are taking the biscuit...


Too make this comment not SPAM I will say that it is moderately easy to defeat a Wobby, despite me being rubbish at Pokemon.
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So tell me, how does it feel when you have something that can't touch Wobby (say, a Dusknoir)...? Then what? You just die.

I personally think it's kind of stupid and annoying. It falls under the category of FEAr for me, as one of those "skill-less strategies," which is pretty much what it is.
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Old February 11th, 2008 (3:44 PM).
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Taunt >>>




But yeah, they have the element of surprise on their hands, you never know when the damn thing will pop up and spite you =/


Isnt [email protected] meant to be getting tested for OU aswell ?
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I knew this was coming, Colin told me.

I am also supporting the unbanning of Wobbuffet. It isn't that hard to KO, just snap a few attacks, usually you'd strike first. And Counter ... get a ghost like Dusknoir. It counters it perfectly being immune to Fighting.

Edit: And yeah, there's Taunt xD. I think [email protected] with Soul Dew is still Uber. Regular [email protected] should probably be OU :/
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I agree with both Dark & Anti, more so Dark. I can easily Taunt it to death, but the fact that you'll never know when the heck it'll show up...

And I also see it on the lines of FEAR. If it didn't have Shadow Tag, it would possibly be UU. I really love Wobby, by the way, I really like Mirrors.
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I am also supporting the unbanning of Wobbuffet. It isn't that hard to KO, just snap a few attacks, usually you'd strike first. And Counter ... get a ghost like Dusknoir. It counters it perfectly being immune to Fighting.

Edit: And yeah, there's Taunt xD. I think [email protected] with Soul Dew is still Uber. Regular [email protected] should probably be OU :/
lol not even close. It will just encore your butt out of PP and leave you trapped. Seriously, my Dusknoir got POUNDED.

Wobbuffet would be lol without Shadow Tag...it is that ability that makes me hate Wobby so much. Taunt might kill Wobby, but you'll be trapped and won't be able to bring help in.
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I swear, I'm out of the loop about everything. I only found out that Wobby was unbanned in the mentioned battle.
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lol not even close. It will just encore your butt out of PP and leave you trapped. Seriously, my Dusknoir got POUNDED.

Wobbuffet would be lol without Shadow Tag...it is that ability that makes me hate Wobby so much. Taunt might kill Wobby, but you'll be trapped and won't be able to bring help in.
I was recently thinking of Wob. I thought of situations in which I could KO it.

The nightmarish thought of my Raichu going up against it is too much to bear, since I lost to Cradily (Raichu vs Cradily, I mean).

Once it goes up, I could use Nasty Plot. But, he'll use Encore.

After it wears off, there's T-bolt. But he knows I'll use that, for a Mirror Coat.

How bout Focus Punch? I don't think so.

He's just about KO'ed.
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I was recently thinking of Wob. I thought of situations in which I could KO it.

The nightmarish thought of my Raichu going up against it is too much to bear, since I lost to Cradily (Raichu vs Cradily, I mean).

Once it goes up, I could use Nasty Plot. But, he'll use Encore.

After it wears off, there's T-bolt. But he knows I'll use that, for a Mirror Coat.

How bout Focus Punch? I don't think so.

He's just about KO'ed.
Yeah, and what Wobby will do is encore you during stat-upping and then switch out. Then you have to run off while they set up, as if you're on the recharge turn of Hyper Beam :0
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Yeah, and what Wobby will do is encore you during stat-upping and then switch out. Then you have to run off while they set up, as if you're on the recharge turn of Hyper Beam :0
Or worst, since I'm charging up, broken out of Encore, they know I'll use T bolt, just to switch into Vire.

Just...the fact that you don't know when it's comming is what makes it do hard to beat. There is no REAL counter, as any good player will switch when there's an opening, annd there WILL be an opening.
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Or worst, since I'm charging up, broken out of Encore, they know I'll use T bolt, just to switch into Vire.

Just...the fact that you don't know when it's comming is what makes it do hard to beat. There is no REAL counter, as any good player will switch when there's an opening, annd there WILL be an opening.
I never even thought of that.

Maybe Wobbuffet will make us see a spike in BP teams lol

EDIt: Of course there's no counter for Wobbuffet - You can't switch anything in on it since you're trapped...scary.
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Wobbuffet being allowed reminds me of a thread I saw a while ago on Smogon (For some reason, Smogon didn't have a search function, so it took me forever to find it). http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19136

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Yeah we all know Taunt ruins Wobba, so good luck having Taunt on all your pokemon!

That thing is broken. Encore a move and switch to the appropriate counter, getting a free turn to stat-up! yay! Even U-turn is going to work against you if you switch to something that isn't a ghost.. lol @ double damage from Counter.
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Yeah we all know Taunt ruins Wobba, so good luck having Taunt on all your pokemon!

That thing is broken. Encore a move and switch to the appropriate counter, getting a free turn to stat-up! yay! Even U-turn is going to work against you if you switch to something that isn't a ghost.. lol @ double damage from Counter.
I didn't know that either.

I swear, Deoxys-E really opened Pandora's Box on this (yay Aerosmith album!) and now we'll be putting freaking Kyogre in OU now :/

Wobby will certainly make CM Raikou popular again though :0
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One dimensional pokes, like Tarous, are trapped. Tarous is just the first word I could think off. He knows all you can do, so you will lose.

& with Wish support, well...good luck.
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One dimensional pokes, like Tarous, are trapped. Tarous is just the first word I could think off. He knows all you can do, so you will lose.

& with Wish support, well...good luck.
Every post you make gets me more and more afraid of that freaking thing :0

then again Tauros will take a large chuck of its HP with STAB Choice Band Double-Edge.
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Focus.

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You mean Focus Sash Wobby? That's kinda stupid... Wobby never gets OHKO'd anyway. Plus, his entire appeal is switching him in on a Poke at any given moment, so he's definitely gonna take some damage on the way.
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With something strong enough, like Hera or Weavile, it's useful.
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With something strong enough, like Hera or Weavile, it's useful.
But the beaty of Wobbuffet is that it can switch out (and it will be REALLY obvious what move they're using) to a nice counter and then you have a free turn to do whatever you want while they flee.

Wobbuffet is BROKEN.

Plenty of things, like Toxic and Taunt, shut down Wobby, but it won't stay in to take that.
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