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Old February 13th, 2008 (12:26 PM).
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Jolly
Sand Stream
252 Atk / ??? / ???
DD
Stone Edge
Crunch
EQ / Ice Fang / Outrage

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Adamant
Intimidate
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
DD
Dragon Claw
EQ
Fire Blast/Flamethrower

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Hasty
Levitate
252 SpAtk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Counter
HP [Ice]
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

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Impish
Sturdy/Keen Eye
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Atk
Drill Peck
Spikes
Roost
Whirlwind

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Bold
Natural Cure
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef
T-Wave
Seismic Toss
Aeromatheoropy
Softboiled

And my last spot is either
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Adamant
Motor Drive
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
T-Punch
Ice Punch
EQ
Cross Chop

or

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Jolly?
Torrent
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP?
DD
Ice Punch
Waterfall
EQ
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Old February 13th, 2008 (1:19 PM).
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I cant stop for a full rate, but i can tell you that team is to physically orientated. Everything looks good, but the last slot is filling the same role as the first two. Take another special sweeper in the last slot, or swap Bandmence to salemence.
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Old February 13th, 2008 (1:23 PM).
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3 DDers is beyond redundant.

Give skarmbliss some help walling or the standard counters will screw you over.
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Old February 13th, 2008 (4:41 PM).
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Jolly
Sand Stream
252 HP / 154 Atk, 104 Spd
DD
Stone Edge
Crunch
Outrage / Ice Beam

Ice Beam incase a physical wall comes in. If you decide for Ice Beam, give it a few special attack EVs.

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Jolly
Intimidate
252 HP / 96 Atk / 104 Spd / 58 Sp. Atk
DD
Dragon Claw
EQ
Flamethrower

Since you're going to be Dragon Dancing, you don't need all those EVs in attack and speed, since you'll gain them anyway. Give him some HP to be able to take a hit, and be sure to give a few special attack EVs.

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Hasty
Levitate
252 SpAtk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
Hynosis
HP [Ice]
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt

I don't see the point of counter on a Gengar when it has a - defense nature, with no defense EVs in it. Other than that, looks good.

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Impish
Sturdy/Keen Eye
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Atk
Drill Peck / Brave Bird
Spikes
Roost
Whirlwind

Looks good, may want Brave Bird over Drill Peck since Skarm can heal itself anyways.

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Bold
Natural Cure
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef
T-Wave / Ice Beam / Flamethrower
Seismic Toss
Aeromatheoropy
Softboiled

T-Wave may seem like a good idea, but what if a Gengar is switched in, and it has Focus Punch. There's no way Blissey can take it down. Giving it a good special attack move can help.

And my last spot is either
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Jolly
Motor Drive
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
T-Punch
Ice Punch
EQ
Cross Chop

The only real way an Electivire can do good, is if it switched into a lightning attack. My Feraligatr Dragon Danced once, and it took down an Electivire with proper EVs in one attack. Just incase a physical wall comes in, you might want to consider giving it Thunderbolt over Thunderpunch, but I'm unsure of the EV set for it.

or

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Jolly
Torrent
252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 HP
DD
Ice Punch
Waterfall
EQ / Shadow Claw

The only move I see that can counter a ghost / psychic type is your Shadow Ball on Gengar. I have a Feraligatr with this set, but instead of Earthquake, Shadow Claw. It takes down those pesky special sweeper switch-ins. The high critical ratio works well too.
Hey Xairmo! I rated your team for you hopefully I helped a good bit. :D
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Old February 14th, 2008 (6:37 AM).
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I wouldn't use Counter on that Gengar. Gengar's defenses are crap anyway, especially with a -def nature, and any residual damage is going to screw you. So if your opponent leads with a Hippowdon, Tyranitar or Abomasnow (common leads), automatically your item and one move are rendered useless. I like this Gengar:

Gengar @ Life Orb/Choice Specs/Wide Lens
Levitate
Timid (252 SpAtk/252 Spd/6 HP)
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis/HP Ice

It might go without saying, but if you want Hypnosis, you probably don't want to use Specs.
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Old February 14th, 2008 (7:40 AM).
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You might aswell make that Gengar a Life Orber with

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Hasty Nature
136 Att / 122 sp.att / 252 speed
- Explosion
- Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

=)

1HKOs Blissey and lax with Explosion 100% of the time.


2HKOs Blissey and Snorlax with Focus Punch and 1HKO'S Weavile, Tyranitar and well as putting nasty dents into Heatran.
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Old February 14th, 2008 (12:49 PM).
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Focus Sash Gengar and Tar on the same team is doing you no favors.

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