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Old February 16th, 2008 (8:28 PM).
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You see why everybody looks down on the most-used sources. We need a reliable source for once.

Dragonite will not like taking Thunderpunch at all. Honestly it's way better at taking on Mixape. Also Stone Edge will be gg
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Old February 16th, 2008 (11:09 PM).
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I've added Hippo. Although it has Sand Stream, it's one of the few Physical Walls that I actually like.
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Old February 17th, 2008 (4:47 AM). Edited February 17th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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I've added Hippo. Although it has Sand Stream, it's one of the few Physical Walls that I actually like.
Your still prone to mixape.


Try this

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252 HP / 16 ATT / 114 DEF / 128 Speed
Jolly Nature
- Heal Bell
- Roost
- Roar
- Dragon Claw


OR


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172 HP / 120 SP.ATT / 216 SPEED
Timid Nature
Trait : natural Cure
- Thunderbolt / Ice Beam
- Surf
- Recover
- Rapid Spin
=)

And physical lucario has the ability to 6-0 you.


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Adamant Nature
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
~ Close Combat
~ Extremespeed / Bullet Punch
~ Swords Dance
~ Crunch / Bullet Punch / Stone Edge




Damage Calculations

Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Skarmory 85.03% - 100.30%
Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Bronzong: 96.15% - 113.02%
Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Hippowdon: 76.43% - 90.00%
Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Forretress: 80.23% - 94.63%
Close Combat vs Max HP/Def Donphan: 82.81% - 97.40%

If you let Hippow switch in on spikes as you dont have a spinner you die.


Edit : Heck you dont even have a DD Gyarados counter.


I suggest you find a threat list and pay attention to the OU metagame, im sorry to say but this IS very metagame weak, common threats are able to beat you.
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Old February 17th, 2008 (11:19 AM).
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Though you could get lucky with the calc and take that 75% or w/e it was. SR immunity helps here.

EDIT: SR resistance would be a better term
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Old February 17th, 2008 (2:32 PM).
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OK, according to Serebii's 3rd gen MoveDex, through XD, Mareep, Poochy, Dragonite, Altaria, Cuno, and Lapras can learn Bell. Smogon says that Lickitung can learn Bell, as well. NONE OF THESE can counter Physical Ape.
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No Heal Beller counter Physical Ape, I said that before.

which means you should probably just settle for Snorlax to absorb status. My team sucks at taking status and it is undefeated, so I wouldn't sweat it. Sure you really should have a Heal Beller, but if you can't fit one in, you can't.
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Old February 17th, 2008 (3:01 PM).
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No Heal Beller counter Physical Ape, I said that before.

which means you should probably just settle for Snorlax to absorb status. My team sucks at taking status and it is undefeated, so I wouldn't sweat it. Sure you really should have a Heal Beller, but if you can't fit one in, you can't.
Should I just settle for MixPert then?
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Yeah,I honestly wouldn't worry about heal Belling on this particular team.
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I've decided that a 'Noir with EQ might help me with CBApe.
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Old February 17th, 2008 (6:10 PM).
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I've decided that a 'Noir with EQ might help me with CBApe.
Standard Noir using EQ on 0 Def/ 0HP Nape
Damage: 65.87% - 77.47%

Not even a OHKO, unfortunately. And if Dusk switches in on a Close Combat, Nape will be long gone before Dusk can EQ.
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Dusknoir really is no good with Earthquake unless you have a Heatran fear really.
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Old February 17th, 2008 (11:30 PM).
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MixPert is on. Whatever, I'm gonna give Buzzy a try. It sounds fun xD
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