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Old February 16th, 2008 (10:15 AM).
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Putting Toxic or Toxic Spikes on Tentacruel would make it pretty much impossible for Blissey to outstall you ;) It would have to keep fleeing from the fight when the damage becomes too much and when it's the last pokemon it's gg
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Putting Toxic or Toxic Spikes on Tentacruel would make it pretty much impossible for Blissey to outstall you ;) It would have to keep fleeing from the fight when the damage becomes too much and when it's the last pokemon it's gg
Yeah but what about if it has Aromatherapy.

Think i should make Azelf Mixed ?

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Well, I wouldn't recomend Toxic Spikes, sith all these rapid Hera users out there, Toxic, my favorite Poison move would do better.


The spikes were alway pretty easy to cancel out, not that it should matter.
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Old February 16th, 2008 (10:32 AM).
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You could stall Aromatherapy out of PP hehe

Explosion on Azelf would suffice.
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Old February 16th, 2008 (10:40 AM).
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Truthfully, I wish for Toxic Spikes so my Hera can come out can do some damage. Toxic is the better option.
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Truthfully, I wish for Toxic Spikes so my Hera can come out can do some damage. Toxic is the better option.
I still say that guts boost is overrated. we battled when your Heracross came in on Toxic and Dusknoir won with more than 50% health.

Besides this team has Weezing who really laughs at Heracross, and for stone edge there IS a Rock Resist here in Swampert.

It's not as big a risk as you think.
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Toxic Spikes with a Tentacruel would be nice. You have plenty of Hera resistance, so you could afford to live with it. If they Stone Edge Weezing, just Flamethrower em...if it gets a crit and you're at risk of a 2HKO, Swampert's there to take the other Stone Edge.

I personally say no to mix-Zelf unless it's just explosion. Use Nasty Plot over U-Turn. However, I'm not a legends user in the OU game, even though they're fully legal.

This team overall covers its threats amazingly well, and I must give you kudos for that. Great job.
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U-Turn is REALLY good on Life Orb Azelf. Nasty Plot isn't great on it IMO.
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Old February 16th, 2008 (11:06 AM).
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I hate U-Turn Azelf, its so annoying. And it IS good, better than Nasty Plot.
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It must just be my lack of experience of seeing U-Turn Azelf. My mind will turn to support it when I see some battles with it.
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Ok i was thinking Donphan >> Swampert, even though Ice Shard is SO weak but he gets Rapid Spin. However I really want the resistances water type brings Swampert aswell as Hydro pump.

Its either that or im gonna say Screw Toxic Spikes, if they have them, so be it. I have 2 Pokemon with Levitate and one with a SR resist and if they choose to set them up ill use them as set up fodder via Azelf and T-Tar = ). Covering weakness is IMO more important than taking residual damage, and besides i have Wish Support and Aromatherapy.

I hate to say this but Rapid Spin just wont "Fit in" on this team.
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I use the U-Turner and a Celebi lead though it would be funny to try and take on my Azelf and it ended up in OHKO Land haha

Donphan would be good, but you would be opening yourself up to Tyraniboah.
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I use the U-Turner and a Celebi lead though it would be funny to try and take on my Azelf and it ended up in OHKO Land haha

Donphan would be good, but you would be opening yourself up to Tyraniboah.
Not only that and physical infernape.

See, this is what so annoying, if i add another pokemon and take one out i open up weaknesses lol
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Not only that and physical infernape.

See, this is what so annoying, if i add another pokemon and take one out i open up weaknesses lol
Well maybe you'll just have to settle for having a few weaknesses. Every team does, this one is no different I suppose.

I'd just be sure that you be sure they don't kill you with 3 layers of Spikes.
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Well maybe you'll just have to settle for having a few weaknesses. Every team does, this one is no different I suppose.

I'd just be sure that you be sure they don't kill you with 3 layers of Spikes.
I agree with ANti 100%. No need to force yourself not to be open to anything--that's imposible.

Rather, have as little weaknesses, while making those weaknesses that ya do have minor.

Is Physical Nape weakness a serious one?
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I agree with ANti 100%. No need to force yourself not to be open to anything--that's imposible.

Rather, have as little weaknesses, while making those weaknesses that ya do have minor.

Is Physical Nape weakness a serious one?
Well its capable of 2hkoing weezing with a CB flare blitz and if Azelf is is gone i die =[. And tbh weezing cant really do much to it. Thats why i really want a bulky water thats not weak to Close Combat /Flare Blitz/Thunderpunch/Stone Edge.

I think if i add Donphan, gallade may be able to cope with Tyraniboah, due to the resistance to Focus punch and its good sp.def to shrug off Dark Pulse and Thunderbolt/ice Beam.



Ill try both swampy and Donphan out and see how they do.
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Gallade has no hope against Boah sadly. Close Combat is how you must damage it and that will lower SDef.

Actually Snorlax is really handy in taking Flare Blitz with its Thick Fat ability and weezing can take Close Combat, but that gets REALLY risky if you mispredict.
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Gallade has no hope against Boah sadly. Close Combat is how you must damage it and that will lower SDef.

Actually Snorlax is really handy in taking Flare Blitz with its Thick Fat ability and weezing can take Close Combat, but that gets REALLY risky if you mispredict.

It has Brick break not close combat =p as im using it for support and running close combat is suicide for that role, its also pumped in sp.def.
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It has Brick break not close combat =p as im using it for support and running close combat is suicide for that role, its also pumped in sp.def.
Oopsies ^_^

In that case it'll be okay but you'll take a whammy of damage breaking its sub and it's pretty much a free switch-in for Salamence and Gengar so be careful.
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