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Old February 14th, 2008 (8:54 PM).
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What a shame, it's way better than Shoddy as it not only is more user-friendly but carries the superior metagame :(

Either way the only two special walls I use in ADV anymore are Regice and Snorlax. you ignored my Snorlax team (which means it's A-okay) so now you get the fear Regice.

If you can't give a good rate then DO NOT GIVE ONE. This is for actually competing on Netbattle and it isn't a joke team either. Well, I'm kind of in a joke-ish mood but I really will be using this so please, good rates. As in, nothing about how I should give 6 EVs instead of 4. A lot of thought went into this (one week of thought >:0) so don't spam up my thread or I'll get really angry. that's your warning so don't say I didn't tell you so, because I'm snippy with my ADV teams.

Anyways...

Regice walls all special pokemon except Moltres and co. who won't like Vaporeon and Swampert very much. The two Bulky Waters cover the obvious fire weakness within my two walls. Vappy provides Wish support to heal then all up and passes subs for even more fun.

Also, no arguing about how DP is better because if you do I have a freaking essay ready to prove you wrong.

But anyways back to the team. Choice Band Mence sounds cool and I love it (same with Kou), but I was thinking about running Elemence over CBmence so Subpassing to it would have a purpose.

If I did that I would of course replace Raikou, probably for a Choice Band Snorlax or some kind of thing that can laugh at Zapdos.

Or I could just run DDmence or something but I hate that thing.

I don't see any weaks but it's late at night here in the Midwest and I can't be thinking straight at the moment so rate away.

Also this is my first team that isn't totally VILtar weak which is nice because that was killing me :/

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 56 SAtk / 4 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Toxic / Thunder Wave
- Psych Up
- Thunderbolt

chances are my Regice >>>>>> yours. Either way it is awesome and nothing you say will make me change my mind :( Screw SR since the superior metagame doesn't have them!

anyways, the boltbeam deal is pretty obvious while Toxic will disable a lot of crap that comes in on Regice.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Roar

Best Tyranitar counter. Hydro Pump because I can and Ice Beam because CBmence is a stupid piece of poo and it will fall. Best Bulky Water out there.

Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Spikes
- Hidden Power [Bug / Steel]

Weird set because I can. HP Bug will simply laugh at Celebi, which sounds too fun to deny. HP Steel...I dunno, it sounds cool.

Either way it spins and crap and is my physical wall because 140 base Defense isn't exactly worthless.

Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 16 SAtk / 36 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Wish
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

Because my team needs some way to heal and this happens to work. Also passes subs to the sweepers coming up. I love Vaporeon and I've never really had the chance to use it so here goes.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 96 HP / 220 Spd / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute / Roar
- Thunderbolt

I thought Roar would be fun to screw over Psych Up Regice and crap since Vappy passes subs but sounds kinda novelty to me so I dunno.

Salamence @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Brick Break

hehe CBmence.

As you can see I lack nicknames for my beautiful pokemon which sucks but I can dig into the vault and think of some corny theme.
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Old February 14th, 2008 (9:25 PM).
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What a shame, it's way better than Shoddy as it not only is more user-friendly but carries the superior metagame :(

Either way the only two special walls I use in ADV anymore are Regice and Snorlax. you ignored my Snorlax team (which means it's A-okay) so now you get the fear Regice.

If you can't give a good rate then DO NOT GIVE ONE. This is for actually competing on Netbattle and it isn't a joke team either. Well, I'm kind of in a joke-ish mood but I really will be using this so please, good rates. As in, nothing about how I should give 6 EVs instead of 4. A lot of thought went into this (one week of thought >:0) so don't spam up my thread or I'll get really angry. that's your warning so don't say I didn't tell you so, because I'm snippy with my ADV teams.

Anyways...

Regice walls all special pokemon except Moltres and co. who won't like Vaporeon and Swampert very much. The two Bulky Waters cover the obvious fire weakness within my two walls. Vappy provides Wish support to heal then all up and passes subs for even more fun.

Also, no arguing about how DP is better because if you do I have a freaking essay ready to prove you wrong.

But anyways back to the team. Choice Band Mence sounds cool and I love it (same with Kou), but I was thinking about running Elemence over CBmence so Subpassing to it would have a purpose.

If I did that I would of course replace Raikou, probably for a Choice Band Snorlax or some kind of thing that can laugh at Zapdos.

Or I could just run DDmence or something but I hate that thing.

I don't see any weaks but it's late at night here in the Midwest and I can't be thinking straight at the moment so rate away.

Also this is my first team that isn't totally VILtar weak which is nice because that was killing me :/

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 56 SAtk / 4 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Toxic / Thunder Wave
- Psych Up
- Thunderbolt

chances are my Regice >>>>>> yours. Either way it is awesome and nothing you say will make me change my mind :( Screw SR since the superior metagame doesn't have them!

Yep, better than mine, but I don't play Netbattle... (I downloaded it, but ya... >_<) Maybe I should make a team.

anyways, the boltbeam deal is pretty obvious while Toxic will disable a lot of crap that comes in on Regice.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 120 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam / Ice Punch
- Earthquake
- Roar

Best Tyranitar counter. Hydro Pump because I can and Ice Beam because CBmence is a stupid piece of poo and it will fall. Best Bulky Water out there.

Yayz for Swampy. Maybe Ice Punch, but I dunno... >_<

Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 196 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rapid Spin
- Earthquake
- Spikes
- Hidden Power [Bug / Steel] / Counter / Light Screen

Weird set because I can. HP Bug will simply laugh at Celebi, which sounds too fun to deny. HP Steel...I dunno, it sounds cool.

Counter is... ?_?, but Light Screen may help you switch your pokes in better, and allow you to run less Sp. Def on Vappy...

Either way it spins and crap and is my physical wall because 140 base Defense isn't exactly worthless.

Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 16 SAtk / 36 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- Wish / Ice Beam
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

Because my team needs some way to heal and this happens to work. Also passes subs to the sweepers coming up. I love Vaporeon and I've never really had the chance to use it so here goes.

What does the 16 Sp. Atk EV's allow you to do? Just curious, I would like 240 HP, 252 Def, 16 Sp. Def/Atk, but w/e. I know you don't like 2 attacks on Vappy, so I put it there... >:]

Raikou @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 96 HP / 220 Spd / 136 SAtk / 56 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I thought Roar would be fun to screw over Psych Up Regice and crap since Vappy passes subs but sounds kinda novelty to me so I dunno.

Substitute please, Raikou sorta needs it to work effectively in its role. I did run Roar on mine for awhile, but Sub runs better on it...

Salamence @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 116 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Brick Break

hehe CBmence.

Sorry, cannot help, looks ok, what do the Speed EV's outspeed?

As you can see I lack nicknames for my beautiful pokemon which sucks but I can dig into the vault and think of some corny theme.
Wow, unfortunately, I didn't start competitive battling until DP, so I cannot comment much, but I tried to help. BTW, HP Flying was Physical in 3rd Gen wasn't it? o.0

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Old February 14th, 2008 (10:13 PM). Edited February 14th, 2008 by sims796.
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First off, Netbattle isn't gone because of lack of useage. It's [almost] gone because I sent a virus to destroy it. By doing this, I can weaken the moral of battlers, in order to TAKE OVER THE WORLD!

Second, why both Brick Break & EQ? Is Reflect common in ADV?

Speaking of ADV, you should really tone it down, just a bit. This sentence in particular urked my nerves somewhat

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Also, no arguing about how DP is better because if you do I have a freaking essay ready to prove you wrong.
I mean really? Prove me wrong? Is it a fact that Net is better than D/P? Or just personal preference? If you argue back like that, you're no better than those who'll troll the threads with worthless opinions. And you're better than that.


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Old February 14th, 2008 (10:36 PM).
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Yeah, Anti, you have sorta gone of the top, but w/e. Hey sims, do you have wifi currently?

@Blueberry: I see you looking at the thread, would you like to battle? I've wanted to for ages, but... @[email protected]

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Old February 14th, 2008 (10:37 PM).
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Looks pretty solid, though my knowledge on Advanced has all but disappeared. And I don't have Wi-fi *points to sig*
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Old February 14th, 2008 (10:43 PM).
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Ok, damn... :( I haven't really looked at your siggy much. :( PM me when you get it back, I would love to battle.

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Old February 15th, 2008 (7:19 AM).
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I was pretty much joking about the essay sims. But I really do have a VERY strong argument as to how the ADV metagame is better.

Brick Break on Mence is because Curselax can stall out my team pretty easily and I need something that can inflict immediate damage.

The 16 EVs on Vappy for special attack are just a little boost, nothing hhuge. I didn't really need any other EVs anywhere though I might as well throw them into HP.

I used those Mence EVs a long time ago so I honestly don't remember the reason behind them. Honestly most of these spreads are so my memory is a tad bleak.

Ice Punch on Swampert is really useless BTW when Ice Beam is way better in every area except PP, which I couldn't care less about.

I'm also making this team for Ingame just for fun so I have a new game on Sapphire now, ready to catch catch catch Regice! lol

As for Forretress I tried Counter on it and I hated it. It's like Counterbliss in a way, and I don't like Counterbliss :( Light Screen is meh since my Maggy fear is nonexistent.

BTW Roar on Raikou is really good, as I have used it before. Problem is the metagame has changed a bit (at least it won't be changing anymore) during my LONg absense and then this one so I need to test it out more. You can also play games with Curselax.

For example they know Raikou has no business trying to beat Snorlax. It'll be curse curse feva! Of course I'll just use Roar right away and that'll take off its first Curse. Of courrse, it'll come back in and will attack my with Earthquake or Return/Body Slam, in which case I will switch to Choice Band Sala and scare it away and take 35% off the random incoming bulky Water.. If that made sense.

BTW don't randomly look for battles in my thread as history in my RMT threads should tell you that's a terrible idea ;/ As in, don't SPAM up my thread or I will get angry, fast most likely.

Mostly looking for weaks still the movesets are decided and aren't going to change.
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Stop declaring things! ADV ins't "better", just better for you. There is no arguement in which is best, since they are litterally two totally different things. I hate ADV, but you don't, and that's reason enough to respect it. If it was a fact, it would have stayed the same, and I'd agree wholeheartedly. That sparks unecessary agruement (that you was trying to avoid).


"But about the team...it doesn't look like your seeking any actual advice (or rates, for that matter). Especially since no one plays that much anymore. It's a shame. If I knew about Netbattle, I'd have been more intrested in ADV metagame.

But if I HAD to say something...how "hard-hitting" is advance? Enough to consider healing? Would an Aromatherapist work any better? Roar does seem sort of novelty. Especially Articuno, since there is no SR to annoy. Hell, I don't even think you need a Spinner.
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