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Old February 15th, 2008 (9:53 AM).
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Empoleon (male) @ Leftovers
Torrent
Quiet
EVs:? (Please reccomend)
Ice Beam
Surf
Stealth Rock
Roar

Flygon (female) @ Chioce Scarf
Levitate
Jolly
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge
Crunch
Attract

Ninetails (male) @ Life Orb
Flash Fire
Naive
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Flamethrower
Energy Ball
Hypnosis/Confuse Ray
Nasty Plot

Dusknoir (female) @ Leftovers
Pressure
Sassy
EV's: 252 HP, 132 Defense, 120 Special Defense
Shadow Sneak
Will-o-Wisp
Thunder Punch
Pain Split

Zangoose @ Choice Band
Immunity
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Close Combat
Crush Claw
Slash
Swords Dance

Jolteon @ Scope Lens
Volt Absorb
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
HP Ice/Water/Grass
Shadow Ball

Sort of expiramental, but I really like them.
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Old February 18th, 2008 (6:11 AM).
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Empoleon (male) @ Leftovers
Torrent
Quiet
EVs:? (Please reccomend)
Ice Beam
Surf
Stealth Rock
Roar
No idea on this one

Flygon (female) @ Chioce Scarf
Levitate
Jolly
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge
Crunch
EQ
Attract+Choice Scarf? What good is attracting something twice? EQ please

Ninetails (male) @ Life Orb
Flash Fire
Timid
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Flamethrower
Energy Ball
Hypnosis/Confuse Ray
Nasty Plot
Fine, just change the nature

Dusknoir (female) @ Leftovers
Pressure
Careful- When you have an unused stat you may as well reduce that instead. Same goes for Ninetales
EV's: 252HP,72Def,180SpDef
Shadow Sneak
Will-o-Wisp
Fire Punch
Pain Split
Mostly fine, just change EVs. Because you have will-o-wisp their attack stat will be halved, so more SpDef. Fire punch works better IMO

Zangoose @ Choice Band
Jolly
Immunity
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Close Combat
X-Scissor
Return
Shadow Claw
Two moves of the same type? Nonono this isnt one of the situations where that would work. Return over both, dont put trust in their effects. Night slash over regular slash to hit ghosts. And swords dance on a choice set? Jolly please, its speed is a bit below par for a sweeper.

Jolteon @ ??? (Scope lense is a hax item, find out the standard item)
Modest
Volt Absorb
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
HP Ice
Shadow Ball
Its ok i suppose

Sort of expiramental, but I really like them.
Changes in bold. It's mostly just silly mistakes like stat moves on choice sets and badly picked natures. The problem is they're the things that are gonna get you. Switch empoleon for a wall, or use the walling set (Whatever it is, i hate the penguin)
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Old February 18th, 2008 (6:36 AM).
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mostly everything has been covered. but for Jolteon I suggest

Jolteon @ Life Orb
Timid
252 sp.atk/ 252 spd/ 6 Hp
Charge Beam
HP [ICE]
Shadow Ball
Roar

Roaring with a Jolteon works wonders, it forces out the enemies gyarados or other physical wall that jolteon will own. porpably. Skarms, Donphans and Gyaras. Shadow Balls for funny timid Alakazams and the such.
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Old February 18th, 2008 (6:58 AM).
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Needs moar walls. Give this spread to your Empoleon: 252 HP/ 252 SDef/ 6 SAtk to turn it into a good special wall. And take out one of your Choice sweepers for a good physical wall. Swampert would be a good choice, as it can help with the Vire weak.
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mostly everything has been covered. but for Jolteon I suggest

Jolteon @ Life Orb
Timid
252 sp.atk/ 252 spd/ 6 Hp
Charge Beam
HP [ICE]
Shadow Ball
Roar

Roaring with a Jolteon works wonders, it forces out the enemies gyarados or other physical wall that jolteon will own. porpably. Skarms, Donphans and Gyaras. Shadow Balls for funny timid Alakazams and the such.
I beg to differ. Jolteon has a mighty 130 speed. with maxed EVs put in that nature boost can be shipped off elsewhere, namely his SpAtt. And charge beam is a bit meh on a poke who's SpAtt already starts high, if your unlucky enough notto hit the boost you're left with 3 not overly powerful attacks. Thunderbolt is a safer option IMO
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Old February 18th, 2008 (9:42 AM).
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I beg to differ. Jolteon has a mighty 130 speed. with maxed EVs put in that nature boost can be shipped off elsewhere, namely his SpAtt.

Okay no no no no no no no. Just no. Jolteon NEEDS Timid nature just like Gengar needs his. Otherwise you get outran by A TON of stuff. That's like saying "Hey, Snorlax already has might HP, SDef, and Atk! Let's put those EVs into Def. Spd, and Satk!" Yeah then snorlax would be useless.

And charge beam is a bit meh on a poke who's SpAtt already starts high, if your unlucky enough not to hit the boost you're left with 3 not overly powerful attacks. Thunderbolt is a safer option IMO

Safer but maybe not better. APvire (My Electivire) runs Charge Beam and it totally outperforms Thunderbolt. Jolteon doesn't even have great special attack (good, but not great) and sometimes it really needs that boost.
Modest Jolteon sucks.

Also you could have just given the standard item for Jolteon which obviously is Leftovers.
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Well, Focus Sash is there for a reason.
when that happens, or when I get outsped. it's sp.atk @ timid will start @ 319 that is if u have 31 IV's in it and ev trained it in sp.atk on a nuetral nature.
even with the boost. 350 sp.atk. Get a poryong I say. However on timid nature you get a speed of 394. now that is something to talk about. outspeed the fastest of Weaviles, and maybe a ScarfHera that doesnt have full IV's. (since with scarf and full ivs on adamant he gets 403)
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Well, Focus Sash is there for a reason.
when that happens, or when I get outsped. it's sp.atk @ timid will start @ 319 that is if u have 31 IV's in it and ev trained it in sp.atk on a nuetral nature.
even with the boost. 350 sp.atk. Get a poryong I say. However on timid nature you get a speed of 394. now that is something to talk about. outspeed the fastest of Weaviles, and maybe a ScarfHera that doesnt have full IV's. (since with scarf and full ivs on adamant he gets 403)
Um nothing has focus sash here ._. focus sash is a disgrace to pomemon anyways.

Though actually roar is not to be used on Jolteon. Taking away it's greatest asset is foolish and soon things will just start directly attacking you before getting roared away.
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about the focus sash, that was something I did in the thread I posted so I got confused.
Also, his speed is too high to be outsped by anything here man. Unless it was scarfcross or scarfhera, you cant really outrun this, unless you were a ninjask.
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Um nothing has focus sash here ._. focus sash is a disgrace to pomemon anyways.

Though actually roar is not to be used on Jolteon. Taking away it's greatest asset is foolish and soon things will just start directly attacking you before getting roared away.
Most pokemon, anyways. Some likes to abuse it. Good ole SpikesRock, Focus Killer since 2006.
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