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Old February 17th, 2008 (7:18 PM).
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Hey, I was wondering if my pokemon team and moves are okay..

Weavile - Jolly
ATK 252 SPD 240 HP 18
I made sure to stay above 373 Speed to outrun Alakazams/Azelfs and anything below.
Ice Shard
Sword Dance
Slash
Night Slash
I like slash for hitting for neutral damage, but I was considering Protect, Brick Break, or Aerial Ace.

Milotic - Modest
HP 100 DEF 252 SP.A 70 SP.D 88
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic
Recover
Nothing interesting for the moves.

On a side note, my Milotic's HP IV was 0, but had a 31 DEF IV, 18 SP.A IV and 28 SP.D IV, which is why I kept it. Now, the very low HP is bothering me, and it's also modest.. and I've been considering starting over. I also don't want hypnosis or mirror coat, because that would require breeding, and I have a weird fetish for premier balls. -_-

Dragonite - Adamant
HP 200 ATK 252 SPD 58
Thunder Punch
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Aerial Ace
I was wondering... If it's a dragon-dancer, shouldn't it have a physical lightning move to take advantage of any boosts? I also traded speed for HP for the same reason.

Torterra - Jolly
No clue what EV's are, still have to fix. Can I turn Torterra into a physical sweeper? He's jolly anyway...
Earthquake
Crunch
Giga Drain
Leaf Storm
I want to switch out the two special moves for Woodhammer and Leech Seed or Synthesis, but I'm worried about him being Jolly.

Bronzong - Impish
DEF 252 HP 200 SP.D 68
Block
Hypnosis
Calm Mind
Psychic
I thought of this moveset today, while I was trying to catch Cresselia, and lo and behold, it's already been thought up of a long time ago. I thought I was smart too. :/ I think I need Dream Eater for health, and while I have full HP I'll use Calm Mind.

Aggron - Impish
HP 252 ATK 200 SP.D 68
Iron Head
Roar
Aerial Ace
Stealth Rock
I wasn't sure what to put on Aggron. I saw that he was UU, but he looks so badass that I couldn't leave him out. Don't tell me to replace him, he stays! :D He'd probably still get killed by a flare blitz. I just put Roar and Stealth Rock on him because no one else has it.


There isn't much of a strategy going behind this team, I can't think of one. It's basically send out a pokemon and each one acts independently.
Suggestions pls D:
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where's the abilities and items, and this team is seriously messed, where's your rapid spinner, this team is almost as messed as "when I was trying to be unique". This team is also too physical, no special sweeper or wall, also get rid of aggron, and put forrtress and say bye! to torterra and add azelf or porygon-z
note: Get the team rated and tweaked THEN make it.
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Old February 17th, 2008 (9:53 PM).
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where's the abilities and items, and this team is seriously messed, where's your rapid spinner, this team is almost as messed as "when I was trying to be unique". This team is also too physical, no special sweeper or wall, also get rid of aggron, and put forrtress and say bye! to torterra and add azelf or porygon-z
note: Get the team rated and tweaked THEN make it.
Really just saying random things doesn't help. If the thread starter were to go off that alone I know it still wouldn't help much. for example you just command to get rid of Aggron.

Actually this team has potential to be very good if you fixed the movesets.

Weavile wants:

Weavile @ Choice Band
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Ice Shard
- Pursuit
- Brick Break
- Ice Punch / Night Slash

Allows for basic revenge killing with Pursuit, which just ends Gengar, Alakazam, and Gengar (all three of which your team is very weak against).

As for Torterra putting special attacks on it is suicide. With Aggron and Bronzong it'll actually wall a lot of stuff so I'm inclined to tell you to change Torterra to a more tank action kind of set. Take it away sims.

Honestly Aggron or Bronzong has gotta go. You're piling on weaknesses with two steel walls so choose which one to replace. honestly Aggron is way better in UU play as in OU its weaknesses really hinder its usefulness.

You need something that isn't totally clobbered by Infernape, so I'd try something that will live through the beast's attacks. Milotic can actually cope with Physical Infernape if you add Torterra's Thunderpunch immunity.

then again Dragonite will help you there so I guess you're fine with Infernape, but you'll have to outpredict it which can be tricky.

Speaking of dragonite, its best set by far is the DD one. there are several ways to run a DDnite but the most common is DD/EQ/fire Punch/Outrage.

As for the replacement for Aggron/Bronzong (hint: replace Aggron, it's one of those UUs that kinda sucks in standards), I recommend a pure special wall as the only way you're really beating special sweepers is outpredicting them and that usually isn't goinmg to work. Snorlax would be good since Fire moves are a real trouble for this team and Ice is even worse, and Snorlax with Thick Fat provides handy resistances to both.
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Old February 18th, 2008 (1:30 AM).
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Allows for basic revenge killing with Pursuit, which just ends Gengar, Alakazam, and Gengar (all three of which your team is very weak against).
Sorry that made me giggle, now onto the ratingness:

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Hey, I was wondering if my pokemon team and moves are okay..

Weavile - [email protected]
ATK 252 SPD 240 HP 18
I made sure to stay above 373 Speed to outrun Alakazams/Azelfs and anything below.
Ice Shard/Ice slash
Pursuit
Brick Break
Night Slash
Swords dance is kinda bad on weavile, choice band offers a good boost and doesnt need a turn essentially 'charging up'. This is basically anti's set, but i perfer to choose between punch and shard. I dont have any qualms with two moves of the same type in situations like this, but your already outrunning most things. Ice shard is there if you fear scarfers IMO.

Milotic - [email protected]
Not sure on EVs :)
Surf
Ice Beam
Toxic/Hypnosis
Recover
Nothing interesting for the moves.

On a side note, my Milotic's HP IV was 0, but had a 31 DEF IV, 18 SP.A IV and 28 SP.D IV, which is why I kept it. Now, the very low HP is bothering me, and it's also modest.. and I've been considering starting over. I also don't want hypnosis or mirror coat, because that would require breeding, and I have a weird fetish for premier balls. -_-
Rebreed plz, modest doesnt benefit what is first and formost; a wall. Moves are ok, hypnosis could be more beneficial. Plus its a wall, it NEEDS HP IVs

Dragonite - Adamant
HP 200 ATK 252 SPD 58
Thunder Punch
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Aerial Ace
I was wondering... If it's a dragon-dancer, shouldn't it have a physical lightning move to take advantage of any boosts? I also traded speed for HP for the same reason.
I hate the stupid obese dragon, so i'll leave it alone
Torterra - [email protected] Band/Shell Bell
No clue what EV's are, still have to fix. Can I turn Torterra into a physical sweeper?
On a base 56 Speed? Hell no
He's jolly anyway...
...Until you rebreed Adamant. I think i used this EV spread:
200HP/152Att/156Def

Earthquake
Crunch/Synthesis
Wood Hammer
Stone Edge

This works well. This is the kind of set that makes the most out of shell bell, an item that gives twice the HP leftovers does whenever you inflict damage. Synthesis if you fear woodhammer's recoil

Bronzong - Impish
252HP/152Def/100SpDef/56SpAtt
Block
Hypnosis
Calm Mind
Psychic
I thought of this moveset today, while I was trying to catch Cresselia, and lo and behold, it's already been thought up of a long time ago. I thought I was smart too. :/ I think I need Dream Eater for health, and while I have full HP I'll use Calm Mind.
I cant remember the set for special Zong, i think the gyro ball version is better. That EV spread is more suited though.

Aggron - Impish
HP 252 ATK 200 SP.D 68
Iron Head
Roar
Aerial Ace
Stealth Rock
I wasn't sure what to put on Aggron. I saw that he was UU, but he looks so badass that I couldn't leave him out. Don't tell me to replace him, he stays! :D He'd probably still get killed by a flare blitz. I just put Roar and Stealth Rock on him because no one else has it.
Like people have said, remove him
It's all a very physically orientated. You have no special sweeper and no dedicated special wall (In fact you have two half-arsed walls who cant make their minds up) Like anti's said, scrap aggron and bronzong and get some special-orientated pokes in there.
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Old February 18th, 2008 (6:02 AM).
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On a side note, my Milotic's HP IV was 0, but had a 31 DEF IV, 18 SP.A IV and 28 SP.D IV, which is why I kept it. Now, the very low HP is bothering me, and it's also modest.. and I've been considering starting over. I also don't want hypnosis or mirror coat, because that would require breeding, and I have a weird fetish for premier balls. -_-
This part stuck out for me. Does this mean that you don't breed your team? If so, you're gonna be at a real disadvantage against real IV bred teams.
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As for Torterra putting special attacks on it is suicide. With Aggron and Bronzong it'll actually wall a lot of stuff so I'm inclined to tell you to change Torterra to a more tank action kind of set. Take it away sims.
Okey dokey.

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Wood Hammer
Stone Edge
Eathquake
Synthesis/Leech Seed
EV: 252 HP, 86 ATK, 176 DEF

This is one of many sets. It can also be effective with Curse, losing Synthesis or Leech Seed, and investing a bit more in ATK. Much more ATK can warrent Choice Band, but I highly advise my Tanking set. Of course, Synthesis is to recover from your own Wood Hammer, but becomes dimmed in Sandstorm, so Leech Seed might help.
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Ew I meant to say Azelf. C'mon I posted that at like 2 in the morning :/

And I didn't say scrap Bronzong, and he shouldn't. Bronzong is a needed normal and rock resist as well as a ground immunity. Metagross rolls this team over without Bronzong and this team greatly needs his resistances. Let's not forget about what it can do to Porygon-Z, which kills this team really bad.
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sorry for the flaming, but seriosly remove aggron and get a rapid spinner, such as starmie or forrtress and get a special sweeper! Or else pokemon like skymory will wall your team, I was just like you a while ago, just take a look at a whole bunch of pokemon in ou and steal the movesets off of smogon and then slap it together as a team
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Almost none of these movesets are from Smogon :/ Almost none of these movesets are stand :/ :/ :/

Also take sims' advice on torterra. Sims is the torterra god :0

It needs more Impish/Adamant IMO.
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Old February 18th, 2008 (3:33 PM). Edited February 18th, 2008 by akhilys.
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First of all, thanks for the replies, it's very appreciated :)
I'm not good in any sense, so please bear with..

Do I really need a special sweeper? I was kind of counting on Milotic and Bronzong for any special attacks. I also was hoping each of them would act as double walls for both special and physical attacks. I burn my Milotic, and Bronzong will be Calm Minding, so I thought they should be able to stand up to attacks.

I'll work on my Torterra, thx for the advice :D
Not much change for Dragonite I guess.

For Weavile, can't you not have both pursuit and ice shard? Just wondering, cause if it were possible I'd get both. I'll try out choice band too, but I'll have to go to the battle tower.

Before I had Aggron, I wanted to put Cresselia. Would that be a good replacement poke.? There's a problem though, I've caught Cresselia 4 times (catch, check stats/nature, restart), and she's been staying the same, so I assume Cresselia's stats are decided once you meet it. Is it true the only way I can get a good Cresselia is to trade/start over? Kinda sucks because it's a Lonely Nature.
What's a good special Fire-using pokemon? I don't have any fire attacks atm.
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id try heatran or magmortar for the spec fires.

Also you could try this link to find one that you like.

http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/stat/sp-attack.shtml

And this one for any pokemon with a stat in the top 100 for its class.

http://serebii.net/pokedex-dp/
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Almost none of these movesets are from Smogon :/ Almost none of these movesets are stand :/ :/ :/

Also take sims' advice on torterra. Sims is the torterra god :0

It needs more Impish/Adamant IMO.
Nope. Vileplume lord. Torterra is just obvious to a Grass lover like me.
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