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Old April 7th, 2008 (9:21 AM). Edited April 8th, 2008 by Rhymed.
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So, I decided to make a team on shoddy and decided to post it so people could help me improve it & what not. so here it is.

Salamence @ Life Orb
6Hp 252 atk 252 spd
Adamant
Dragon Claw
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge
EQ......................................Another physical sweeper

Donphan @ leftovers
Impish?
220Hp 36 Atk 252 Def
Ice Shard
Knock off/Roar
Rapid Spin
EQ.......................................Physical wall, Phazer and King arthur all in one!


Charizard @ Salac berry
Hasty
6 hp 252 atk 252 speed
Belly Drum
Sub
Brick Break/ EQ
Fire punch...................................Someone please comment on this, I don't know if Belyzard will work in this team.


Azelf @ Focus Sash
Timid (may replace with modest, getting tired of speed+ natures T_T)
252 sp.atk 252 speed
Flamethrower
Nasty plot
HP (Fighting)
Psychic.............................Keeping sash, I got donphan as a spinner now, so i have to worry a little less.


Persian @ Focus Sash (Don't shoot me for two, :D)
Hasty
252 Sp.atk 252 Speed
Hypnosis
Nasty Plot
Water Pulse / Icy wind
Swift ..................................................Not getting rid of persian- Despite the bad comments. He rocks. and keeping sash

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold
148 Hp 228 Def 132 Sp. attack
Surf
Ice beam
Recover
Hypnosis........Special Wall and sleeper, Lemme know wether to put RestTalk on it.

I Edited the team To take the mixed walls out, and put in Dedicated ones, and i Swapped roserade for salamence- not persian, look up to find out why. Rate the edited one now :D

Well, Thats it, I accept Help & CONSTRUCTIVE criticism (I spelt that wrong :D)
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Old April 7th, 2008 (12:33 PM).
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Sunnybeam is a bad choice, all you're doing is inviting in fire types to resist pretty much your entire set and OHKO you with a 1.5 boost to their already STABed moves, so that needs changin. Specs is really the way to go on it.

Get rid of those sashes, stealth rock, spikes, sandstorm ect all screw them over leaving you with a wasted item.

You've completely ODed on special sweepers, switch one for a physical attacker. More specifically persian, it really sucks

The EV spreads on those walls are ewwww, tangela wants 252HP/220Def/36SpDef and Cressy wants 252HP/152SpDef/106Def with light screen. 2 mixed walls dont really work, your better off with dedicated ones.

I dont know if bellyZard works, I've never seen it. I'll leave that to someone else. Some of your movesets are a bit off, but I dont have time to reel off all the standards. Find out the standard azelf
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Old April 7th, 2008 (12:41 PM).
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To add what Gofre said, Sunny Day needs to revolve around the team. Unless it's just to piss of a person you know relies on Sandstorm, you must use the Sun for the entire team.
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Old April 8th, 2008 (12:25 AM).
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so, ok... I edited it, hopefully to cover most of the weaknesses, rate again :P
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Old April 8th, 2008 (3:01 AM).
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Sash = no, because SS = GG, Focus Sash.

Furthermore, there's Hail for non-Ice Types, which is precisely what Azelf is.

Having more then one Focus Sasher is just asking for weather-type teams, most notably SS, to say "Wow, SS weak, yum."


Hippowdon, Tyranitar, etcetera. You should get the point after those two.


Abomasnow... Yeah.

Knock Off would be pretty helpful.


Now that I think of it, wouldn't Milo be a better lead? Bulky Water leads are awesome.

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Old April 8th, 2008 (3:47 AM).
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not exactly sure tbh, I can put milotic as a lead, as you said, and since TTar/hippowdon leads are common, i could put rain dance on it.., to counter that weather problem (they should have like a weather version of rapid spin)
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Old April 8th, 2008 (6:57 AM).
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Yeah, then they maul your milotic, switch out and switch back in. Thier weather is permanent, yours isnt. Dont use sashes
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