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Old April 13th, 2008 (2:46 AM). Edited April 13th, 2008 by Ambient.
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Weavile @ Choice Band
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Speed
- Ice Punch
- Brick Break
- Night Slash
- Pursuit

-Note, not my lead, but I do need help choosing one.

Gengar @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SpA/252 Speed/6 HP
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Regice @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpD
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Forretress @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpD
- Spikes
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Rest

Note: I looked at Smogon for this one, but I didn't seem to like the idea of my only physical wall having few EVs in defence (96), so I changed the spread, so I do need help on this one

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Careful
EVs: 252 HP/140 Def/116 SpD
Pursuit
Taunt
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp

Swampert @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/52 SpA
- Surf
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Roar

Comments, thoughts?

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Changed Choice Specs for Life Orb on Gengar
Swapped Heatran for Swampert
Swapped Roserade for Spiritomb
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:13 AM).
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Well, you only have two walls, both of which are hammered by fire attacks. Fighting and Rock attacks also are potential killers. Basically, stuff like Tyranitar, Infernape, Moltres, and Machamp really give you a rough time, as does Electivire.

Roserade is a pretty meh cleric, Celebi is much better. Still, I would work to have something more reliable than Heatran to stop the fire weakness (since EQ or a fighting attack bury it).
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:20 AM).
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Well, you only have two walls, both of which are hammered by fire attacks.
What is it with you and walls?

@Ambient: 2 Choice Suite users? Have fun switching!
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:24 AM).
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What is it with you and walls?

@Ambient: 2 Choice Suite users? Have fun switching!
I don't know, maybe because without them you're going to get 6-0ed by every sweeper in the game? 2 walls is never enough, even if you're running SkarmBliss or any wall duo. Heck, 4 walls sometimes can't wall everything. The metagame is WAY too fast-paced and the sweepers too powerful to not have at least 3 primarily defensive pokemon.
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:28 AM).
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I don't know, maybe because without them you're going to get 6-0ed by every sweeper in the game? 2 walls is never enough, even if you're running SkarmBliss or any wall duo. Heck, 4 walls sometimes can't wall everything. The metagame is WAY too fast-paced and the sweepers too powerful to not have at least 3 primarily defensive pokemon.
Uh huh. So whats your team like? 3 Walls, 1 Physical Sweeper, 1 Special Sweeper and 1 Mixed Sweeper?
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:48 AM).
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Actually my team is ALL walls. I play stall ball, and it does work.

Anyways, that fire weakness is still absurd, so I would invest in a bulky water to help you our, and they won't crumble to Ground and fighting attacks like Heatran would. Vaporeon, Suicune, Swampert, Milotic...whatever.

Considering you need a rock and fighting resist, you could use Swampert as a bulky water and throw in something like Spiritomb, Weezing, or Gliscor to help out.
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Old April 13th, 2008 (10:31 AM).
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So, Swampert > Heatran, and what should I replace for a Gliscor/Weezing or Spiritomb?
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Old April 13th, 2008 (10:34 AM).
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Roaserade doesn't really help you at all, so I would probably replace that for Spiritomb (that will also help Regice).

Also, I would have Gengar run a Life Orb set, since all of your sweepers being choice sweepers isn't going to work in your favor.
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Old April 13th, 2008 (10:37 AM).
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How is this for a Spiritomb set then?

Spiritomb @ Leftovers
Careful Nature
EVs: 252 HP/140 Def/116 SpD
Pursuit
Taunt
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp

(Thought I'd invest more in Def than Smogon said,as Smogon said none)
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Old April 13th, 2008 (10:41 AM). Edited April 13th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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My lord, you have the biggest Hp Ground/Flamethrower/Safeguard/Roost Moltres weakness ive ever seen O_o


Definitely needs not so many things that die to fire, balance out your types better. Bulky waters are your friends aswell, so add one.

edit : Ok you added it =p
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Old April 13th, 2008 (10:48 AM).
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Updated,

Changed Choice Specs for Life Orb on Gengar
Swapped Heatran for Swampert
Swapped Roserade for Spiritomb
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IV Battles Needed: 0
 

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