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Old April 13th, 2008 (6:11 AM). Edited April 22nd, 2008 by Ársa.
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Brave
252 Atk, 212 HP, 44 Def

Fire Punch
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Thunderpunch

Slow and Powerful wins the race... SD Groudon with Brave means I speed tie with Quiet Kyogres. Abomasnow and Tyranitar are both easily beaten if they are slower, and this can then switch in later.
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Impish
168 HP, 120 Def, 220 Sp. Def
Thick Fat

Curse
Body Slam
Rest
Earthquake

Takes Fire and Ice attacks prominent in the Sunny Day and Hail teams I will be facing.
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Mild
120 Atk, 252 Sp. Atk, 136 Spd

Brick Break
Draco Meteor
Flamethrower
Dragon Claw

Mix-Mence takes the walls out of the equasion. Flamethrower over Fire Blast because Flamethrower is now strong enough in the sun.
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Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Lava Plume / Overheat
Dragon Pulse
Earth Power
Hidden Power GRASS

Lava Plume makes Tyranitar think twice before switching in, Overheat takes dents out of everything, so it's considered for that reason.
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Impish
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk

Brave Bird
Roost
Whirlwind
Stealth Rock

Standard bird. In the sun this thing shines glints. =P
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Bold
252 HP, 104 Def, 152 Sp. Def
Thunder Wave
Moonlight
Grass Knot
Calm Mind

My Groudon counter. This things is the best in the business at such a task, and now it can utilize Moonlight to its fullest.
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~BL Team~

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Timid
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Technician

Nasty Plot
Thunderbolt
Swift / Fake Out
Hidden Power ROCK 59

OMG! HP 59? Are you crazy? Well, yeah...but let's not talk about that. Technician boosts the power way over the original limit of 70. Rock accounts for Typhlosion and Jumpluff leads. My gimmicky special sweeper.
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Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Focus Blast
Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power ICE

Definately one of my fave pokemon of the DP generation. The other side of Electivire, Magmortar has a great movepool that can blow many out of the water.
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Naughty
252 Atk, 192 Spd, 64 Sp. Atk

Draco Meteor
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Fire Blast

Mix-Gon rules the roost. The Mix-Mence of BL does the job very well.
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Calm
252 HP, 96 Def, 160 Sp. Def

Roost
Heal Bell
Ice Beam
Roar / Toxic

Special Wall and Cleric. Roar helps spread the Stealth Rock where as Toxic can help against opposing Articuno and Regice etc.
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Adamant
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Brick Break
Ice Punch
Thunderpunch
Psycho Cut

A scary prospect with its ability, my physical sweeper. BL is where it causes the most damage.
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Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Atk

Earthquake
Stone Edge
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin

Physical Wall and Rapid Spinner.
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~OU Team~

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Impish
252 HP, 54 Atk, 92 Def, 112 Sp. Def

Earthquake
Thunderpunch
Meteor Mash
Reflect

I love leading with this. Clear Body says screw you to Salamence and Gyarados. Reflect Gross rocks. Period. Final. Absolute. Done.
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Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Speed Boost

Hypnosis
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Hidden Power FIRE / ICE / GROUND

Late-Game sweeper extroadinair. Seeing Azelf's thread told me to bring it back out, my fave pokemon of DP. HP FIRE means that it has 30 Sp. Atk and Spd IV's, which might not help me very much...Considerations here?
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Calm
204 HP, 172 Sp. Def, 96 Sp. Atk, 36 Spd
Liquid Ooze

Rapid Spin
Surf
Toxic Spikes
Ice Beam / Sludge Bomb

Rapid Spin and Toxic Spikes. Ice Beam for Dragons etc, Sludge Bomb says yay to Breloom. (Who did annoy me immensely)
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Jolly
252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP

Outrage
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Fire Blast

Yeah, you know what it means. It's about time this came into play. Some battles at WFL anyone? Dunno about the EV's. Doesn't 16 HP allow chomp to survive an Ice Beam from things with less than 269 Sp. Atk, or something like that? I'm running the max to tie with other Garchomp, but I can change it.
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Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp

Yeah, Physical Wall yadda yadda. I would love to use something else, but Skarm and Forry give me a second steel, which I don't really want now, and Gliscor makes it look too much like Azelf's. >_>
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Calm
252 Sp. Def, 216 Def, 40 HP
Natural Cure

Toxic
Wish
Protect
Charge Beam / Ice Beam

Charge Beam wtf? Yeah well, I'm experimenting. Don't look at me that way! *_* Ice Beam for duggy, as it seems it is probably needed.
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Yeah, I actually didn't spend much time on it, so it's probably horrible, but there it is. I just wanted to use a SD Life Orb Outraging Garchomp. I will tell you if I get walled by a Ninjask.


~Uber Team~

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Timid
156 HP, 176 Spd, 176 Sp. Atk

Calm Mind
Recover
Thunder
Dragon Pulse

I love this. Combats Kyogre leads. Dragon Pulse is the better option for the STAB, as Psychic doesn't see any use in Ubers. (If you ask me why, I will shoot you)
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Modest
92 HP, 216 Spd, 202 Sp. Atk

Judgement
Toxic
Recover
Ice Beam

Darkai and Tyranitar counter.
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Calm
252 Sp. Def, 216 Sp. Def, 40 Sp. Atk
Natural Cure

Calm Mind
Icy Wind
Softboiled
Flamethrower / Thunder(bolt)

Uber Blissey. Flamethrower helps against the steel types and the electric types allow it to combat Kyogre.
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Impish
240 HP, 252 Def, 16 Atk

Rest
Sleep Talk
Will-o-Wisp
Dragon Claw

Standard Physical Wall. Takes status.
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Quiet
120 HP, 136 Atk, 252 Sp. Atk

Draco Meteor
Brick Break
Thunder
Dragon Claw

Switches into misplaced Outrages from the likes of Rayquaza and Garchomp. Mixed-Attacker to combat Blissey.
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Adamant
252 Atk, 32 HP, 224 Spd

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Overheat

Physical sweeper and absolute beast at it. Air Lock is helpful against opposing Kyogre and Groudon.
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Adamant
152 HP, 252 Atk, 106 Spd

Earthquake
Thunderpunch
Meteor Mash
Explosion

I love leading with this. Clear Body says screw you to Salamence and Gyarados. COOL
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Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Speed Boost

Hypnosis
Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Hidden Power ICE

Late-Game sweeper extroadinair. Seeing Azelf's thread told me to bring it back out, my fave pokemon of DP. Need help for the last two slots.Neat
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Calm
204 HP, 172 Sp. Def, 96 Sp. Atk, 36 Spd
Liquid Ooze

Rapid SpinSludge Bomb/Poison Jab?!?
Surf
Toxic Spikes
Giga Drain

Giga Drain for Swampy pwnage. Rapid Spinner and Toxic Spiker.
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Jolly
252 Atk, 240 Spd, 16 HP

Outrage
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Fire Blast

Yeah, you know what it means. It's about time this came into play. Some battles at WFL anyone?WTF's it not gonna beat?
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Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp

Yeah, Physical Wall yadda yadda. I would love to use something else, but Skarm and Forry give me a second steel, which I don't really want now, and Gliscor makes it look too much like Azelf's. >_>
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Calm
252 Sp. Def, 216 Def, 40 HP
Natural Cure

Toxic
Wish
Protect
Charge BeamFocus Blast or Drain Punch if it can learn it.

Charge Beam wtf? Yeah well, I'm experimenting. Don't look at me that way! *_*
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Yeah, I actually didn't spend much time on it, so it's probably horrible, but there it is. I just wanted to use a SD Life Orb Outraging Garchomp. I will tell you if I get walled by a Ninjask.

Nice team.
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:08 AM).
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I wouldn't use Drain Punch on poor Blissey...unless you use its uber version - CB Blissey :P

Anways, I've always found Protect pretty useless on Yanmega, I would put in HP ICe or HP Ground for sure over it. Interesting team, watch out for Electivire.
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Adamant
152 HP, 252 Atk, 106 Spd

Earthquake
Thunderpunch
Meteor Mash
Explosion

I love leading with this. Clear Body says screw you to Salamence and Gyarados.
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Modest
252 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 HP
Speed Boost

Hypnosis
Bug Buzz
Hidden Power ICE
Protect

Late-Game sweeper extroadinair. Seeing Azelf's thread told me to bring it back out, my fave pokemon of DP. Need help for the last two slots.
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Calm
204 HP, 172 Sp. Def, 96 Sp. Atk, 36 Spd
Liquid Ooze

Rapid Spin
Surf
Toxic Spikes
Giga Drain

Giga Drain for Swampy pwnage. Rapid Spinner and Toxic Spiker.
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Jolly
252 Atk, 240 Spd, 16 HP

Outrage
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Fire Blast

Yeah, you know what it means. It's about time this came into play. Some battles at WFL anyone?
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Bold
252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp. Def

Fire Blast
Thunderbolt
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp

Yeah, Physical Wall yadda yadda. I would love to use something else, but Skarm and Forry give me a second steel, which I don't really want now, and Gliscor makes it look too much like Azelf's. >_>
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Calm
252 Sp. Def, 216 Def, 40 HP
Natural Cure

Toxic
Softboiled
Protect
Charge Beam

Blissey with no Softboiled takes away it's walling uberness.

Charge Beam wtf? Yeah well, I'm experimenting. Don't look at me that way! *_*
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Yeah, I actually didn't spend much time on it, so it's probably horrible, but there it is. I just wanted to use a SD Life Orb Outraging Garchomp. I will tell you if I get walled by a Ninjask.

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Good team overall, though uh, Blissey needs Softboiled.
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:16 AM).
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Drain Punch? On blissey? Thats not even kinda usable :S

Anyway, when did they un-ban garchomp?

That aside, I see skarmory trouble. Your only special sweeper barely touches it (Damage calcs say that HP ice does 30-36% on a skarm with 252HP/16SpDef, assuming perfect IVs, and it will be KOed by brave bird soon after). HP fire on the other hand does 73-86%. Nice team otherwise
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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:33 AM). Edited April 13th, 2008 by Espreon.
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Rapid SpinSludge Bomb/Poison Jab?!?
Are you on something or something? Poison type moves have poor type coverage and besides Rapid Spin is used to clear Toxic Spikes (Even though as Tentacruel is a Poison type he will absorb them upon being sent out), Spikes, Stealth Rock and Leech Seed.

@TS: Giga Drain on Squidward? Maybe I should run that on my Tentacruel.
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I wouldn't use Drain Punch on poor Blissey...unless you use its uber version - CB Blissey :P

Anways, I've always found Protect pretty useless on Yanmega, I would put in HP ICe or HP Ground for sure over it. Interesting team, watch out for Electivire.
Hmmm, Electivire. >_>

Chomp would handle it without a Motor Boost, and considering electricity from Weezing and...Blissey, I don't know if it's too much of a problem.

Electivire - Adamant - 252 Atk EV's - Earthquake vs Metagross = 65.78% - 77.29%

I might consider running Meta a tad bulkier, as Garchomp can do the bulk of the sweeping.

Ideas?

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Old April 13th, 2008 (9:53 AM).
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Well you certainly can't switch in on Electivire, especially the mixed ones that run Thunderbolt, which Weezing can't really take. Flamethrower and HP Ice will hammer the rest of your team besides blissey, who is handled with Cross Chop. Basically, Vire gives you trouble, especially with a Motor Drive boost.

there isn't much I can recommend, since replacing something for a really good Vire counter could screw your team up.
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Old April 13th, 2008 (10:17 AM). Edited April 13th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Metagross @ Leftovers
EV's: 252 HP/ 54 att / 92 def / 112 sp.def
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Thunderpunch/ Ice Punch
- Meteor Mash
- Reflect


Reflect G00se ftw !. Helps fill in that little niche in your team, E-Vire can never OHKO this set up without a crit =).


Alternately J00 can us3 M4[h4mp , Rest-Talk Machamp is sweet.
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Old April 13th, 2008 (8:53 PM). Edited April 13th, 2008 by Ársa.
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I was going to, but I didn't want to make it look like another copy of your team? >_<

Reflect Gross is nice I suppose, I'll give it a try.

btw, anyone else been testing those two new pokes on DJD's server? Revenankh is seriously broken.

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Well you certainly can't switch in on Electivire, especially the mixed ones that run Thunderbolt, which Weezing can't really take. Flamethrower and HP Ice will hammer the rest of your team besides blissey, who is handled with Cross Chop. Basically, Vire gives you trouble, especially with a Motor Drive boost.

there isn't much I can recommend, since replacing something for a really good Vire counter could screw your team up.
Bronzong? It could fill the similar niche of Meta, but the lack of physicality is a let down. It seems it's focused more defensively after that.

Either ReflectGross or Bronzong currently. hmmmm...
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Old April 14th, 2008 (2:16 PM). Edited April 14th, 2008 by flamehaze94.
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So, NOW people start using ReflectGoose. >_>

Charge Beam + Bliss = Duggy ownage

You know what? Just run max speed for Garchomp to tie at other max speed Garchomps.
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This team to me spells pain for pretty much everything. The only little niche of a problem is C.Beaming Blissey without Ice Beam. Dugtrio just says, almost like Garchomp, "kthnxbai Blissey". You COULD Wish/Protect stall it if you get in a Toxic. Then, if it all works out, you could laugh at the day Blissey beat a Dugtrio to bits (which I did one time, but had Seismic Toss and he must've not had Choice Band.)

Very nice overall, however. No team is perfect, but this is a dang good one.
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Old April 22nd, 2008 (3:39 AM).
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I've added an Uber team and a Sunny Day team that I would like people to take a look at.

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