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If the anime writers wanted to base an episode/movie on your fan fic, would you give them the rights to?

Depends on who the anime writers were. If the team that wrote Yu-Gi-Oh GX approached me, I'd say no, and shoot them. No, on second thought, I'd shoot them and then say "no". (Yes, kids, Thesis has read the evil overlord list!) If the writers were from, say, Gonzo or Studio Ghibli, I'd be very happy to let them have my fic. Heck, I'd give up all rights to it if it was Studio Ghibli because they make everything that goes in come out better. So yeah, the answer's yes, but I'm a picky person. XD

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If the anime writers wanted to base an episode/movie on your fan fic, would you give them the rights to?

For the Eon Chronicles...maybe, maybe not. If it was going to be toned down and made palatable for Pokemon's normal target audience, then definitely no. If they left it as-is, however, I'd say go for it. In fact, I often think of my fic as a movie/anime. It has this lighting effect I saw in a commercial for Tropicana orange juice (the one with the flying cows). Yeah, it's weird, but I take pride in my imagery and it fits.

"Mastermind" may not be a very easy fic to make into a movie. The entire thing is a past-tense, first-person commentary by a Pokemon. So probably a "no" on that one.
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The Delta series, that Pokemon/Digimon crossover trilogy, a weird random thing about Shaymin and Heatran (they're so neglected in Legendary fics...
That is because it is hard to base a story off of two Pokemon who don't have any special powers like control over space or time. It is harder to go off of.

Although I did read a noob fic where someone gave Shaymin the ability to grow/regrow plants with touch. It wasn't a bad idea, but it was in a bad fic.


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Oh yeah, I'd have to keep a close eye on the producers too. I mean...I cringe at what they'd do with Fuega. It gets very metaphorical and philosophical in the middle...and holy crap, you can just imagine...
Yeah, just look at what producers did to Eragon.
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In fact, I often think of my fic as a movie/anime. It has this lighting effect I saw in a commercial for Tropicana orange juice (the one with the flying cows). Yeah, it's weird, but I take pride in my imagery and it fits.


Yes, I'm not alone, lol. But yeah, it's just how I picture my stories, as a movie or show, depending on how it flows. Even my major, non-pokemon story, I picture as a movie, with two more after XD
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If the anime writers wanted to base an episode/movie on your fan fic, would you give them the rights to?

Uhh...well, for one thing, the anime writers wouldn't want my fic. It's way too depressing, and there's still more depression to come. (and to those who read JaB, it's actually not related to the shipping[s] in the story)

Second, even if they did want it, I wouldn't let them. They'd take out all of the goodness JaB has to its name.
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If the anime writers wanted to base an episode/movie on your fan fic, would you give them the rights to?

If it were my parody and they promised to not mess it up, sure. If it were my main fic, NO. I can't picture my main fic as being anything but live action, and I just don't trust them to not make it more appropriate for a younger audience. However, if they were to ask for the rights, that would be the most amazing thing ever, even though I'd say no. :P
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If the anime writers wanted to base an episode/movie on your fan fic, would you give them the rights to?
Yes. Definitely. I just need to write more first. :D
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That is because it is hard to base a story off of two Pokemon who don't have any special powers like control over space or time. It is harder to go off of.

Although I did read a noob fic where someone gave Shaymin the ability to grow/regrow plants with touch. It wasn't a bad idea, but it was in a bad fic.
Hm. I've always imagined them as opposites...the dual natures of the earth, rage and serenity...

The randomfic is basically a "Pinky and the Brain"-ish thing, where Heatran is Pinky and Shaymin (usually in Sky Forme) is the Brain. -shot-

Yeah, just look at what producers did to Eragon.
...-shudder- Ew. Don't talk to me about that.

Although, I'm not too fond of the Inheritance trilogy...it's very cliched, and Eragon and Arya are a pair of Sue/Stus...I think a better metaphor would be, "look what that one guy did with Harry Potter 4." Now THAT'S plot-rape.
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Although, I'm not too fond of the Inheritance trilogy...it's very cliched, and Eragon and Arya are a pair of Sue/Stus...
Yeah, the real marvel with the Eragon film was not that they took something good and made it bad, but that they took something that was bad and managed not only to make it worse, but significantly worse.

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Although, I'm not too fond of the Inheritance trilogy...it's very cliched, and Eragon and Arya are a pair of Sue/Stus...I think a better metaphor would be, "look what that one guy did with Harry Potter 4." Now THAT'S plot-rape.
Ack, I watched the Harry Potter 4 movie. Just...>.> Luckily the fifth one was much better. XD
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Yeah, the real marvel with the Eragon film was not that they took something good and made it bad, but that they took something that was bad and managed not only to make it worse, but significantly worse.
It's hard to call the Inheritance trilogy bad when Christopher Paolini is making a chunk of change off of it. Although I agree that the movie was terrible, I like the books quite a bit, and I have faith that he will improve with the next two installments and silence many critics. So there :P

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It's hard to call the Inheritance trilogy bad when Christopher Paolini is making a chunk of change off of it.
Popularity =/= quality of workmanship. Argument ad populum and all that. I wish I could share your faith in Paolini's improvement, but all the signs regarding his next book have been decidedly unfavorable.

Edit: I suppose you could say that's what's good about the Inheritance Cycle, actually: its marketing.
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Ack, I watched the Harry Potter 4 movie. Just...>.> Luckily the fifth one was much better. XD
It's sad... The fourth is the one we have and the third is my favorite ><
They ruined Harry Potter 4.
The fifth WAS better, I must admit.
Looking forward to the 6th(next year sadly, they moved it back from this summer)


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Well, when it comes to canon characters you really need to factor in that a lot of people who want to write a fanfic probably see the anime as the main canon and go with that. They may enjoy the games, but really, there’s not much you can do with the game characters since there’s not much to them. You have to pretty much create them from scratch, and a lot of authors, namely younger, newer ones are afraid of that. Meanwhile you have the anime which is who knows how old and has a core cast of characters that are decently characterized, providing a basis for the beginning author to build off of without needing to do too much work themselves. And then regardless of which canon the author chooses to follow, there’s the natural allure of their own character being a Pokémon Trainer and doing what they themselves want to do, as I mentioned before.
You have a point, and it's really a shame. Part of the beauty of fanfiction is to actually do a little bit of work to go beyond canon (without violating it, of course). Maybe it sounds rather naive of me to say it, but I just think a lot of people are missing prime opportunities to be incredibly creative by completely ignoring a character they would have to work a little on to get to work. *shrug* But maybe I'm being a bit too direct about it. ^_^;

Take a look around forums like here and Serebii and you’ll see that the large majority of authors are young, beginners, and quite honestly not that good at it. It’s those people who flood the fandom with all the generic fics about anime characters and boring generic journeys.
Well, we'll have to define "beginner" here, I think. There's some authors who only write OT stories and have for years because they can't move on to something that isn't. On the other hand, I do agree that these are the people with beginner-level skills.

As for absurd things like “ZOMG, he’s Ash’s son!” I think that’s partially shipper fantasy and a desire for their own character to be someone important in the world immediately without needing to work for it like all other characters.
XD Oh, partly. Also, probably partly an excuse to keep calling it Pokemon fanfiction. I've seen Gary Stus in action-adventures call themselves descendants or relatives of Ash for the sole purpose of connecting themselves to the main cast as a life buoy.

Exactly, that’s why I have a sort of grudge against Saber’s Pokémon Revelation over at Serebii, and I know I’m not the only one.
Ooh. I've heard of it tons of times from people on my LJ friends list, so you're definitely not the only one.

...But I've always been tempted to read it, just because I keep hearing that either a fanfiction is inspired by it or that people are tired of seeing yet another fic that's a knock off of it.

That and I'm the masochist who keeps contemplating reading Eragon, just to see if it really is that bad. Even though I read the prologue and burst out laughing halfway through it. In a Barnes & Noble. Fun times.

Yeah, I don’t know about other people, but while characters are very important to a story, a fic that relies completely on them so much that they overshadow subpar writing and plot just doesn’t deserve the massive fanbase Revelation has.
...And now my brain has come up with the phrase, "Is this the Twilight of the Pokemon fandom?"

Apparently the problem isn’t just with writers not wanting to think outside the box, it’s readers too who refuse to read anything imaginative.
Welcome to the Pokemon fandom. XD

(Oh, FFNet. How entertaining your reviews are.)

It reminds me of numerous other fics with similar titles, most of which are mediocre to downright awful.
Well, on the positive side, it could be worse. (If you can read that with a straight face, feel free to comment.)

That’s why I like TRINITY. Simple, short, effective. Especially when it manages to stay capitalized unlike on Serebii... I need to get a mod to edit that thread title and change it to “TRINITY (Rated PG-14)” or something... In its own way TRINITY also seems kind of campy, though, but hey, what can you do?
Personally, it just reminds me of the chick from The Matrix.

Which is to say, I think it's sexy.

But I'm weird.

And would have tapped her if I could.

If you like any combination of mecha, animals, giant guns (especially in the original series where there’s the Gravity Cannon which fires what are basically miniature black holes in that it creates an immense gravity field that implodes anything near it. Dear lord, that thing is overpowered. Naturally it’s still not powerful enough to destroy the villains), or overdramatic fight scenes with plenty of exaggerated movements and repeated stock footage it’s definitely something you should see! :D
Giant robots?! Sign me up!

If the anime writers wanted to base an episode/movie on your fan fic, would you give them the rights to?
The conversation would go like this:

Them: "Jax Malcolm, we want to make a movie out of your fanfiction!"
Me: "...Did you read it?"
Them: "Absolutely."
Me: "I mean really read it?"
Them: "Of course."
Me: "And you want to market this to children."
Them: "We don't see anything wrong with that."
(Insert flashback to the scenes where Mercury has her throat ripped out, where the nameless girl in the prologue is stabbed in the back of the head, where Romeo and Juliet get it on under the watchful eye of Tybalt, and where Viola's sexuality is questioned. Also, the one-shots in which Bill encounters a prostitute, has sex with Celio, overdoses on herbal hallucinogens, and is nearly killed. Numerous times.)
Me: "Okay!"

Popularity =/= quality of workmanship. Argument ad populum and all that. I wish I could share your faith in Paolini's improvement, but all the signs regarding his next book have been decidedly unfavorable.
Should I bring up a detailed analogy to Anne Rice to further support this comment? Or can we just leave it at her name and grin knowingly?

Which reminds me. Twilight series. Who's read it, and should I for the sake of masochistic curiosity?
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Well, on the positive side, it could be worse. (If you can read that with a straight face, feel free to comment.)
It wasn't a straight face... It was a face of a person staring with extreme horror as he watches a story being "morphed" into a really bad story with horrible grammar and spelling, no plot flow, and makes NO sense.

It was like a talentless writer wrote a story. Sad... Sad... Sad...
Another story murdered... *R.I.P.*


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If the anime writers wanted to base an episode/movie on your fan fic, would you give them the rights to?

Let's see:

Producer: Sorry, Mister, um...
Me: 479.
Producer: Mr. 479, our research shows that 87% of our demographic does not want college-level mathematics as part of their Pokemon watching experience. Furthermore, 96% do not feel that 1982 Oldsmobiles are "cool cars." Also, your choice of songs for the soundtrack will not "mesh" with our target audience. And finally, while we do appreciate companies like Choice Hotels and Applebee's sponsoring the project, we're trying to attract a younger age group, one that doesn't make the dining and lodging decisions for the household. Therefore, we are not interested in your project. My apologies.
Me: Oh well, what can you do?

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Looking forward to the 6th(next year sadly, they moved it back from this summer)
My mom threw a hissy fit about that. =O

Well, we'll have to define "beginner" here, I think. There's some authors who only write OT stories and have for years because they can't move on to something that isn't. On the other hand, I do agree that these are the people with beginner-level skills.
OT in and of itself isn't bad. Many writers, myself included, write mostly OT fics simply because we enjoy using our own characters. I mean, read Bubblebeam's Vision of Darkness: The Sinnoh League and try to tell me that all OT fics are awful. It's when you delve into the realm of unoriginality and cliche that the quality drops.

(Oh, FFNet. How entertaining your reviews are.)
There are times when I want to whack my FFnet readers upside the head and scream at them to leave more comprehensive reviews.

Well, on the positive side, it could be worse. (If you can read that with a straight face, feel free to comment.)
...Just what the hell was that?!

Them: "Jax Malcolm, we want to make a movie out of your fanfiction!"
Me: "...Did you read it?"
Them: "Absolutely."
Me: "I mean really read it?"
Them: "Of course."
Me: "And you want to market this to children."
Them: "We don't see anything wrong with that."
(Insert flashback to the scenes where Mercury has her throat ripped out, where the nameless girl in the prologue is stabbed in the back of the head, where Romeo and Juliet get it on under the watchful eye of Tybalt, and where Viola's sexuality is questioned. Also, the one-shots in which Bill encounters a prostitute, has sex with Celio, overdoses on herbal hallucinogens, and is nearly killed. Numerous times.)
Me: "Okay!"
...Holy...

Should I bring up a detailed analogy to Anne Rice to further support this comment? Or can we just leave it at her name and grin knowingly?
Who? What? I'm young and ignorant, please fill me in...

Which reminds me. Twilight series. Who's read it, and should I for the sake of masochistic curiosity?
Oh holy Mew...I avoid that series like the plague. It's so popular, it has to be bad.
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...But I've always been tempted to read it, just because I keep hearing that either a fanfiction is inspired by it or that people are tired of seeing yet another fic that's a knock off of it.
Saber's fic was written long long long ago. Many journey fics today are cliches of Saber's fic.

That and I'm the masochist who keeps contemplating reading Eragon, just to see if it really is that bad. Even though I read the prologue and burst out laughing halfway through it. In a Barnes & Noble. Fun times.
It's not that bad. I mean he sucks in the character development department but he wrote it when he was fifteen. FIFTEEN!

Well, on the positive side, it could be worse. (If you can read that with a straight face, feel free to comment.)
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It's not that bad. I mean he sucks in the character development department but he wrote it when he was fifteen. FIFTEEN!
He started writing it when he was fifteen. He finished it at sixteen, then spent two more years revising it and preparing it for publication, meaning he actually finished the first edition at eighteen. Then Knopf picked it up and started another round of revision on it, and it wasn't actually published in the form that most people recognize it until he was twenty-one. He had six years to revise it and apply all that he'd learned, and yet... it's still as bad as it is.

Also, age is no excuse for suckiness. I've read fifteen-year-old authors who could beat the pants off Eragon in terms of quality, but who have yet to be published.

You're right, Eragon is more like mediocre fanfiction than abjectly awful, but the series has actually gone downhill from the first book.
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Well, on the positive side, it could be worse. (If you can read that with a straight face, feel free to comment.)
I-I-I...I think...that...that was a joke, not real, like Oni Raichu's "Atak of the Grate stom" or something. Right?
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My eyes hurt. Very badly.
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Them: "Jax Malcolm, we want to make a movie out of your fanfiction!"
Me: "...Did you read it?"
Them: "Absolutely."
Me: "I mean really read it?"
Them: "Of course."
Me: "And you want to market this to children."
Them: "We don't see anything wrong with that."
(Insert flashback to the scenes where Mercury has her throat ripped out, where the nameless girl in the prologue is stabbed in the back of the head, where Romeo and Juliet get it on under the watchful eye of Tybalt, and where Viola's sexuality is questioned. Also, the one-shots in which Bill encounters a prostitute, has sex with Celio, overdoses on herbal hallucinogens, and is nearly killed. Numerous times.)
Me: "Okay!"
...
Are you sure "Them" are sane? xD
Ah...I'm gonna go and read that fic...
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I-I-I...I think...that...that was a joke, not real, like Oni Raichu's "Atak of the Grate stom" or something. Right?
That sounds like it would be a fun "parody" to read :)
Would be worth a good laugh :)

Oh, in P.E. yesterday, this guy went off the court to grab the volleyball as it rolled away, then picked it up and threw it really high. He was trying to pass the volleyball to the other team, but instead it swished through the basketball hoop behind them. It was SO funny.

Sad thing was he couldn't serve or bump the ball after that...

I guess he lost all of his accuracy with that lucky shot.


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OT in and of itself isn't bad. Many writers, myself included, write mostly OT fics simply because we enjoy using our own characters. I mean, read Bubblebeam's Vision of Darkness: The Sinnoh League and try to tell me that all OT fics are awful. It's when you delve into the realm of unoriginality and cliche that the quality drops.
Oh, don't get me wrong here. I was saying that there's some people who write OT stories because they don't want to move on to something more original. I never said that people who write OT stories in general can't move on to something more original.

Basically, yeah, I acknowledge that there's good OT stories out there, but OT is a genre with certain definitions -- that is, certain archetypes that most OT stories touch upon at one point or another (like the evil team bent on saving the world, a gym circuit, et cetera). The writers I'm referring to stick mostly to OT stories because there's those life lines, and while a better author can take those definitions and use them loosely while expanding on their own story, the writers I was referring to often simply expand on the life lines, if that makes sense.

In other words, it's not the genre. It's the people in it who find comfort in the list of things an OT story should or most often contains and aren't brave enough to branch out and try something new.

There are times when I want to whack my FFnet readers upside the head and scream at them to leave more comprehensive reviews.
Mine (when I was still posting stuff there) actually entertained me because of this. XD I should really start posting again on FFNet. Those were fun times full of muse abuse, wrong predictions, and "are you sure this has anything to do with the story."

...Just what the hell was that?!
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Who? What? I'm young and ignorant, please fill me in...
Basically, Anne Rice is the author of a number of vampire books. Angsty vampire books. (Although aren't they all?) Angsty vampire books with an abundance of description and exposition. (Not even kidding here.) For that reason, her books are either well-loved for the vampire sex or passed off as trash to the people who have come to the conclusion that her work isn't impressive.

(But what she's most notorious for is the fact that she can't take constructive criticism.)

Oh holy Mew...I avoid that series like the plague. It's so popular, it has to be bad.
XD Well, it's not so much the popularity I'm interested in. It's the fact that everyone I know says it's full of angst and pretentiousness.

And my response is, "...But it's a vampire book."

I-I-I...I think...that...that was a joke, not real, like Oni Raichu's "Atak of the Grate stom" or something. Right?
Alas, no. Welcome to FFNet.

...
Are you sure "Them" are sane? xD
They can't be if they ever approach me to make a movie out of anything I do. XD
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