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Old April 16th, 2008 (8:08 AM). Edited April 16th, 2008 by LethalTexture.
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This team is one that I've constructed through rescuing some decently natured Uber Pokemon from the obscurity of the GTS and/or my PC boxes. Some don't have the ideal IVs, and some may not have the best nature, but I've thrown it together nonetheless. Please note that is is a very offencively-based team, relying on Kyogre's rain for the best effect.



Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunder
- Water Spout

Standard ScarfSpout set. Firing off Water Spouts with humungous Speed and Sp. Atk means much pain for your unsuspecting opponent. I always thought this was the most comminly-used set, but nobody has expected it on Shoddy.
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Mewtwo @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 16 HP/242 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Taunt
- Ice Beam
- Thunder

Pretty much standard CMTwo. Taunt to prevent Phazers and other stat-uppers, Thunder over T-Bolt because of the rain. Thinking about replacing Ice Beam for something else, unexpected.
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Dialga @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 226 HP/32 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Aura Sphere
- Earth Power
- Thunder
- Draco Meteor

In the words of Dark Azelf: Choice Specs Dialga = Win. Mashes just about anything that doesn't resist it with Draco Meteor, Thunder because of the rain, other two moves mainly filler, may need some work. I did have Overheat in here, but the rain kinda makes that irrelevant.
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Palkia @ Lustrous Orb/Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 6 Atk/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Mild nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Aqua Tail
- Thunder
- Spacial Rend
- Surf

Kyogre's partner, absolute beast under rain. Fires off superpowered Surfs and Thunders, Spacial Rend for STAB, Aqua Tail for the rain boost and to punish Blissey who try to laygh in my face.
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Giratina @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/6 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Will-o-wisp
- Draco Meteor

Great Wall#1. Primarily Physical. CM powers up Sp. Def and Draco, Shadow Ball for STAB, WOW for status support.
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Lugia @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/6 Def/252 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Reflect
- Roost
- Whirlwind
- Hydro Pump

Not the best nature I know, but still. Great Wall #2, primarily Special. Reflect to Boost physical defence, Roost for recovery, Whirlwind for Phazing and Hyro Pump for the rain Boost. Surf and Thunder also an option in that slot.
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So yes, rate away. The Uber metagame has been really interesting me recently, and I know I'm not that good at constructing teams yet. I know I can't attack much on the Physical side so that needs to be adressed; I thought about using Groudon but that screws up my rain strategy. I can bring in a DD Latios set I came up with over Mewtwo if needs be.
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It's too similar to what I would use to quote rate, but all I'd say is that you have 1 physical move on the entire team. I use Physical Dialga with Leftovers and Stealth Rock, works like a charm believe it or not. Apart from that, good team.
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Yea, I think I need to replace Mewtwo for a physical threat. As powerful as he is, I don't think he really adds anything to the team.
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Perhaps Salac SD Groudon?

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252 Attack 252 Spe 4 HP
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw/Endure

You can use Endure if you like, I remember being sweeped of 4 pokemon with this thing. I may have the EVs wrong. Also remember because od Drought, you will need to change a few Thunders to T-Bolt's. I think you should go with T-Bolt's anyway because you're going to sweep until Kyogre faints usually anyway, so the rain won't last forever.
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I THINK YOU CAN GO WITH GROUDON TOO....IF IT'S NOT A PROBLEM OF YOURS TO MAKE A MONOTYPE POKEMON TEAM THEN GO ONLY WITH FIRE TYPES WITH A VARIETY OF MOVES FOR TYPE COVERAGE

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I THINK YOU CAN GO WITH GROUDON TOO....IF IT'S NOT A PROBLEM OF YOURS TO MAKE A MONOTYPE POKEMON TEAM THEN GO ONLY WITH FIRE TYPES WITH A VARIETY OF MOVES FOR TYPE COVERAGE

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I think the only Fire type legendaries are:
Entei
Ho-Oh
Moltres
Heatran

Ho-Oh is the only one that is uber, so a team of 6 Ho-Oh's? No thanks.
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Jimmy- Groudon would be nice, but swapping one kind of weather for another (Or, worse still, two weathers on one team) will trash the team's synergy. He's better off using rayquaza, as it doesnt stop weather (It resumes once it's withdrawn) and is a beast of a sweeper. Alternatively go CB deoxys for an attack stat so high its just plain silly.

pokemon"master"7- that post was completely unhelpful. It says in the rules don't post without proper knowledge, which applies to you.

But yeah, at the moment this team fails due to the lack of physical sweeper. Once that's sorted, it looks like it could work. I'd consider taking forry as your physical wall, it works wonders in ubers. Rapid spin is a godsend, as is the dragon resist.
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Perhaps Salac SD Groudon?

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252 Attack 252 Spe 4 HP
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Dragon Claw/Endure

You can use Endure if you like, I remember being sweeped of 4 pokemon with this thing. I may have the EVs wrong. Also remember because od Drought, you will need to change a few Thunders to T-Bolt's. I think you should go with T-Bolt's anyway because you're going to sweep until Kyogre faints usually anyway, so the rain won't last forever.
I did have Groudon in here before, and SDSalac Groudon is one of the most fearsome Pokemon I've used. As you say, if I did include him, I'd have to rethink most of the moves, and it would allow me to use Flamethrower/Overheat on Dialga. That said, I'm not too sure I want to do that. Here is a Latios set I came up with:

Latios (M) @ Soul Dew
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 58 HP/252 Atk/200 Spd
Lonely nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Thunder/HP Fire
- Dragon Dance

If I use HP Fire on Shoddy, I can hit every Poké in the game for at least neutral. The idea is to DD up and hit back with strong STAB Dragon Claws. Earthquake hits Steels who try to resist me, HP Fire smacks the floaty ones. On D/P, Thunder works again off of the rain, and with a Sp. Atk stat of 444 with a neutral nature and no EV investment, it's not going to be a slouch on either side of the attacking spectrum. EVs may need reworking; possibly a few in Sp. Def to add to the bulk?
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@ Gofre: That's good, I have a Forry on my standard team that I could throw in there instead of Lugia. I like the sound of CB Deoxys though, too.
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Try Rayquaza, its like Dragonite, but on Crack =p or Hell even Arceus.


Make Giratina Rest-Talk/Dragon Claw/[email protected] Rest-talk as you cant absorb status well. *Looks at Darkrai*



Ice Beam on lugia, or Toxic >> Hydro pump plesh.
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Old April 16th, 2008 (11:51 AM). Edited April 16th, 2008 by LethalTexture.
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I do have a Extremekiller Arceus that I could use. Or one of T_S' old sets, it does have physical attacks but it's special based. The Splash Plate set. And although Giratina will be taking special hits as is pretty well, I'll consider breeding another Blissey to put in. Could you remind me of the UberBliss standard pl0x?
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I do have a Extremekiller Arceus that I could use. Or one of T_S' old sets, it does have physical attacks but it's special based. The Splash Plate set. And although Giratina will be taking special hits as is pretty well, I'll consider breeding another Blissey to put in. Could you remind me of the UberBliss standard pl0x?
Giratina ? I thought he was your Phys wall, i think you mean Lugia ?

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Trait : natural Cure
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- ice Beam / Icy Wind
- Calm Mind / Psych up
- Softboiled

Icy Wind to slow switch ins down. Calm mind/Psych up is so CM Kyogre and Latios etc wont own you.
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Sorry for the confusion ._. Giratina mainly takes Physical hits, but after a few CMs then he can take special hits pretty well too. I know dual walls aren't as effective as an all-out wall, though.
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