a deck i think is fast

Started by darkace April 16th, 2008 9:39 AM
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darkace

super dark elite kid

Age 28
Laurel,Maryland
Seen August 28th, 2008
Posted August 28th, 2008
96 posts
15.2 Years
let me start with any critism is allowed that means you alter ego.


okay plants/insect are the new darks look at this fast play otk 8100 hit at once.

Monsters:20

lonefire blossom x3
giga plant x3
brain crusher x2
armored bug x2
fairy king truesdale x3
sangan
chainsaw insect
neo-spacian grandmole
grasschopper
lord poison x3

Spells:10

forest x2
book of moon
scapegoat
premature burial
heavy storm
monster reborn
the swords of revealing light
pot of avarice
lightning vortex

Traps:10

sakuretsu armor x3
negate attack x2
magic cylinder x2
draining shield
ultimate offering
black horn of heaven
The Night Dimension
Seen May 28th, 2008
Posted May 25th, 2008
400 posts
15.3 Years
1. Gemini Monsters are terrible outside their own Deck. Yes, this includes "Gigaplant".

2. "Black Horn of Heaven" is worthless.

3. You have too many Level 5 and higher monsters for this to work consistently.

4. You have absolutely no defenses against "Dark Armed Dragon" Decks or "Gravekeeper's" Decks, both of which completely run this into the ground.

5. If the Field Spell Card you're running is not named "The Sanctuary in the Sky", "Necrovalley", "Mausoleum of the Emperor", "Colosseum - Cage of the Gladiator Beasts", "Ancient City - Rainbow Ruins", "Clock Tower Prison", "Harpies' Hunting Ground", "Shien's Castle of Mist", or "Skyscraper 2 - Hero City", DO NOT RUN IT, IT'S TERRIBLE.

6. Do not run Trap Cards that require an opponent to attack or Summon to be activated, because they WILL be blown off the field before you get the chance to use them.

There you go. Six good reasons why this Deck sucks.
In a House
Seen March 20th, 2016
Posted January 22nd, 2010
1,823 posts
16.6 Years
NiGHTS... you really need a little more play experience with gemini. If Gemini are so slow, how is it that Il Blud is run in most competitive zombie decks? Anyway, this deck is incredibly fast: Gigaplant has 2400 Atk and pulls plant/insect types from the deck in less time than it takes to say "ZOMIGOSH A GIANT BUG", especially coupled with Lonefire Blossom. If you can get Gigaplant to turn two, the deck basically has it made. Not to mention, Black Horn of Heaven is basically "Black Horn of Anti-Dragon" since Dark Armed Dragon is special summoned. And as for Gravekeepers, well, if they can outspeed this thing more power to them, but I've never seen a gravekeeper's build actually get five or six monsters with more than 2400 Atk on the field at once before a good OTK deck.

Having said that, Black Horn of Heaven is really better as tech since not EVERY deck runs Dark Armed Dragon. Sakuretsu Armor will really do you no good, since Dark Armed and most other fast decks that dominate this format are either not interested in attacking you or will just blow it off the field before you can use it. Instead, let's try this option, based on a decklist at Metagame.Com by Jerome McHale.

-2 Brain Crusher
-2 Armored Bug
-3 Fairy King Truesdale
-1 Chainsaw insect (Even for 2400 damage, who wants to give their opponent even more CA in an already blazing-fast format?)
-1 Grasschopper

The monster lineup needs a little more consistency- not to mention that Fairy King and Brain Crusher need more tributes than your deck can offer. Besides, you shouldn't be running more gemini than you need to because-lets face it, folks: they're slower on their own.

Now to give the deck some consistency, we're going to add some water-attribute plants and give it a hand control theme (I'm totally ripping this part of the deck off from Jerome here, by the way.)

+3 Homunculus the Alchemic Being
+3 Mother Grizzly
+3 Lekunga

Next, on to the spells. Forest=fail, I'm sorry, NiGHTS is right on this one. Instead, let's try...

-1 Forest
-1 Scapegoat (we're interested in summoning our own monsters, not blocking from attacks, and we aren't running Dogma so they're doing us no good as tribute fodder).
-1 Swords of Revealing Light (Dark Armed is going to blow this away in a heartbeat)
-1 Pot of Avarice (So let me get this straight: you're putting all those plants that Gigaplant wants to summon back into the DECK?)
-1 Lightning Vortex (unnecessary if this works out as planned).
-Book of Moon (sidedecked)

And the traps... let's cut some junk that the metagame can't handle.

-3 Sakuretsu Armor
-2 Negate Attack (Whaddayou think this is, Counter Fairy?)
-2 Magic Cylinder (which last I checked, was still at one.)
-1 Draining Shield
-1 Ultimate Offering
-1 Black Horn of Heaven (sidedecked)

Spell lineup change, anyone?

+3 Creature Swap
+3 Card of Safe Return

And here are a few more cohesive traps:

+3 Spiritual Water Art-Aoi
+3 Solemn Judgement
+1 Torrential Tribute
+1 Mirror Force
+2 Waboku (Dark Armed officially hates this card and its chainability)

Now, this was pretty much quoted (with the exception of Waboku in place of Raigeki Break) wholesale from the Jerome McHale deck. There is an OTK version of this deck focusing on a Mass Driver loop- summon Superalloy Beast Raptinus with dragon's mirror before summoning Gigaplant and reviving another one (or summoning it from the deck with Lonefire Blossom) and creating an infinite loop in which you tribute one Gigaplant for Mass Driver before summoning it back to the field with the other one. Creative and painful, I'd say.

As for this deck... well, I'd say that it needs more work than I gave to it (I mean, come on, the fixes weren't even my own ideas mostly). So anyone else feel free to add to what I've put here.

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The Night Dimension
Seen May 28th, 2008
Posted May 25th, 2008
400 posts
15.3 Years
with monster reborn back special summons are bad so i reccomend b horn of heaven
Except that "Black Horn of Heaven" can only negate the Special Summon of a monster who Special Summons itself. It can stop "Dark Armed Dragon", but it can't stop a monster Special Summoned by another card's effect, such as "Destiny Hero - Disk Commander" being brought back by "Monster Reborn".

"Solemn Judgment" is better here. The same rule applies, but "Solemn Judgment" can stop "Monster Reborn" and any other Spell or Trap Card.

Frostweaver

Ancient + Prehistoric

Age 34
Male
Canada
Seen September 11th, 2016
Posted July 30th, 2016
8,246 posts
19.7 Years
Really for gigaplant to match up its speed, Gigaplant needs to be the focus and work with Blazewing Butterfly and Lonefire Blossom. These 3 cards are like the only cards worth summoning with Gigaplant right now anyway... anything else is just too slow (like Legunka) or lack attack power in this format. Standard rule is that if you have no ways to win in 4 turns, then it's either a casual deck or it's too slow >_<

Gigaplant can't be splashed in a plant deck and expect it to work right now, not because the plants suck but the format does not permit you to take your time with the Lord Poison and token creations and stuff.