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Old April 17th, 2008 (12:54 PM). Edited April 20th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Ive done with this now. So it may be locked.
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Old April 17th, 2008 (1:31 PM). Edited April 17th, 2008 by Espreon.
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Darkrai: If predicted right, Giratina absorbs the sleep and Arceus handles Darkrai with powerful Fighting Judgments.
Yeah, Arceus can handle Darkrai but I would be careful of sending out Girantina on a Darkrai as it is always possible your facing an Eikagan Darkrai and I think taking a few hits from Spacial Rend with a good chance of it being a critical hit is a bit painful.
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Most darkrais out there are egikan, since the dragon weak apparent in most uber teams is easily exploitable.
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Hey, this may just be me, but this looks exactly like Jibaku's team, with Palkia over Metagross. =P

But yeah, I'm reserving here for a time when I can look over the team and look for any subtle flaws that Dark_Azelf would never miss... ;)

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This is one of the greater teams Iv'e seen. Very original as well.
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Old April 18th, 2008 (7:14 AM). Edited April 18th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Yeah, Arceus can handle Darkrai but I would be careful of sending out Girantina on a Darkrai as it is always possible your facing an Eikagan Darkrai and I think taking a few hits from Spacial Rend with a good chance of it being a critical hit is a bit painful.
I would only go to Giratina if i knew 100% that it was going to use Dark Void, i go to Giratina initially, and if it decides to Dark pulse or W/E , ill then go to Arceus, which Darkrai cant do ass to, so its going to Dark Void, so ill then withdraw and go back to Giratina for sleep clause and then Arceus can kill it.

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Most darkrais out there are egikan, since the dragon weak apparent in most uber teams is easily exploitable.
Ive never actually seen Darkrai with Spacial Rend, as they would have to drop a move Dark Void/Dark pulse/Focus Punch/Thunder, it drops Dark Void, it becomes much less of a threat, Dark pulse gets STAB, so is going no where. If it drops Focus Punch Blissey walls it for all eternity and if it drops thunder Kyogre laughs at it.

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Hey, this may just be me, but this looks exactly like Jibaku's team, with Palkia over Metagross. =P

But yeah, I'm reserving here for a time when I can look over the team and look for any subtle flaws that Dark_Azelf would never miss... ;)

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I didnt actually notice that it was similar, i actually threw 6 standards together, and used the threat list that i had saved on a word document. But looking on it now, it does look incredibly similar, but my Bliss has Icy Wind, My Latias has Grass Knot. Also my Kyogre is mixed and defensive and i have a CB Palkia, im also pretty sure some of my ev spreads are different. Uber teams are often VERY similar, due to the smaller number of pokes to use/can function in that environment and the small amount of pokemon that counter what, for example, Latias is the best counter for Kyogre, hence why most stuff is uber, Over centralization, as everyone nearly has to use the same pokes to counter other certain pokes. There are 3 Weather inducers that function in ubers well, Groudon, Kyogre and T-Tar, im basing mine around Kyogre. Same problem may occur if 2 people based their team around groundon, i could almost guarantee they would both contain Heatran and HO-OH.

Look at DeanoDances uber team for example, he uses Giratina, Palkia and Kyogre.


Ill change it around to something else though if its a problem.

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This is one of the greater teams Iv'e seen. Very original as well.
It not that original tbh, most of this stuff is standard, you may think its original as its a change of pace from Ou, so yeah =p
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Sometimes I wonder why isn't Blissey Uber...
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Sometimes I wonder why isn't Blissey Uber...
Because its not too powerful for OU, and is easily beaten by physical attacks and doesnt over centralize anything.


Also Blisseys position in the tier list has nothing to do with my thread, so can we keep that out of here thanks ?
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Nah, it's no problem, I noticed the differences, I just wanted to peev you off. =P

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Nah, it's no problem, I noticed the differences, I just wanted to peev you off. =P

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Also im thinking seeing as i have Icy Wind on Blissey, and i have no PHazer, would it be considered as a Psuedo Hazing move ? I think having one is nescessary tbh, but i cant fit roar on Giratina due to the rest-talk set.


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I love Icy Wind on Blissey. What Ice Beam does isn't that much anyway, and with Icy Wind you can actually cause problems. Blissey switches into a Special Sweeper then Icy Wind's on the switch, causing problems from the outset. Again, I need to head off (this time footy) but when I get back I'll have a proper team.

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Any more suggestions, things i may have missed etc ?
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I just don't like Aqua Tail on Kyogre. I would prefer Calm Mind or a more team oriented move. Palkia does it better. =P

btw, just be wary of the occasional Meadow Plate Arceus. It can cause some greef if your Arceus is in the dust.

Other than that...not much really. I would love to battle you in Ubers some day. :)

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I just don't like Aqua Tail on Kyogre. I would prefer Calm Mind or a more team oriented move. Palkia does it better. =P

btw, just be wary of the occasional Meadow Plate Arceus. It can cause some greef if your Arceus is in the dust.

Other than that...not much really. I would love to battle you in Ubers some day. :)

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Well, Palkia is my only physical sweeper and i though with it out of the way, foe blissey would lol at most of my team. Thats why Aqua Tail is on Kyogre.
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