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Old April 19th, 2008 (11:28 PM). Edited April 24th, 2008 by Goldeneyes.
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Ok basically i'm ready to breed the team but first I want your opinion on the team. Here it is:


Infernape @ Expert Belt
Evs: atk252/spe252/Hp6
Jolly
Close Combat
Thunderpunch
Flare Blitz
Earthquake/Stone Edge ( You decide)




Blissey @ Leftovers
Evs: Hp40/sp.Def216/Def252
Calm
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Thunderwave



Skarmory @ Shed Shell
Evs: Hp252/Def160/Atk96
Impish
Roost
Brave Bird
Spikes
Whirlwind



Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Evs: sp.Atk252/spe252/Hp6
Modest
Tri Attack
Dark Pulse
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam



Lucario @ Choice Specs
EVs: 252 SpA/252 spe/4 Hp
Hasty
Vacuum Wave
Aura Sphere
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse


Hippowdon @ Lefties
EVs:252 Hp/252 def/4 atk
Impish
Slack Off
Roar
Ice Fang
Earthquake
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Old April 20th, 2008 (2:35 PM).
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fairly good team
i think Growth on roserade
i think Earthquake on infernape
i think thunderwave on bliss
not to many flaws should do alright
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Old April 20th, 2008 (2:57 PM).
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Roserade is WAY too frail for Growth IMO. I use this.

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252spd/252sp.atk/6HP

Leaf Storm
Weather Ball
Shadow Ball
HP Fire/Extrasensory

I guess you could go Extrasensory if you don't wanna go forever and get HP Fire. However, even physical steels wall you in that condition. Weather Ball is there to take advantage of Hail or Sandstorm (You could run a Sunny Day team and that'll compensate for HP Fire, only with even more power.)

Crobat, I'm unsure. U-Turn can scout for you, which is always a nice pleasure to have. Crobat's decently sturdy (don't kill me anyone, just an opinion), so Roost is good. I think Brave Bird and Hypnosis can't go together, so that's out of the question (correct me if I'm wrong.)

EV spreads are needed for further review.
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Where are the EV's? We can't help you if you don't post some EV's. Is this in game play or competative battle?
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Old April 20th, 2008 (4:11 PM).
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Where are the EV's? We can't help you if you don't post some EV's. Is this in game play or competative battle?
Adding to that post, if it is considered for In-Game, don't post RMT because pretty much anything goes in In-Game
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Adding to that post, if it is considered for In-Game, don't post RMT because pretty much anything goes in In-Game
Adding to this post, and example, a Lv. 1 Magikarp owns in game.
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Old April 20th, 2008 (5:09 PM).
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Ok, we need EVs if this is for WiFi.

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Adding to this post, and example, a Lv. 1 Magikarp owns in game.
Not really, considering Cynthia has a Spiritomb, and there's Fantina's gym. So Magikarp be screwed. Of course, I think Feebas can learn one or two TMs so you could use it instead.

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Roserade @ Life Orb
Timid
Toxic/Growth (You decide)
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Roserade is too frail IMO to set up Growth or use Toxic. Replace that with HP Fire, and Sludge Bomb/Energy Ball with Leaf Storm and Weather Ball. Basically what ABYAY suggested.

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Toxic/Sing/Thunderwave (You decide)
Blissey I think would like a Bold nature, and Thunder Wave over Toxic and Sing. I haven't used one in a while, except it's the standard OU and Uber Special Wall.

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I don't think Skarm counts that well as a Physical Wall since any non-resist STAB attack could do some decent damage to it, though I might be wrong. Also with two Pokemon SR weak (unless Fighting resists Rock), considering getting either an Anti-Spin (Dusknoir calls, makes an excellent Physical Wall) or a Rapid Spinner.
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Bliss is usable in both departments of Calm and Bold. Calm serves its use as a key sp.sponge, but Bold helps it withstand lighter attacks.

Always...ALWAYS have 252 defense EVs on Blissey. If you go 252HP/252sp.def, then say bye bye when you get Pound'd. lol

I highly think this is a competitive team, but it reminds me of when I knew nothing of EVs or IVs, but I knew natures.
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Old April 20th, 2008 (5:45 PM).
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it is a wifi team thread has been edited
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Old April 20th, 2008 (6:01 PM). Edited April 20th, 2008 by ABYAY.
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Red flag there perrinaybara. Blissey NEEDS 252def EVs.

Calm Blissey is EV'd 252def/216sp.def/40HP. It already has massive HP, so a little bit is all that's required on the calm set. This set gives around 660HP, 390 sp.def, and 110def (the max of these is 661, 396, and 119.) It's important that Blissey gets a high IV on its defense (29-31 is best.)

Porygon-Z would really like Thunderbolt > Psychic unless you fear fighting types, but if you're running Adaptability, then it doesn't make too much of a concern and Psychic can be dropped (Adaptability gives Tri Attack 160BP, where as a super-effective Psychic gives 180BP). Bolt pretty much gives you much better coverage.

Also, Brave Bird Skarm...252HP/96atk/160def is the preferred set. If you fear that it's not defensive enough, lose some atk and throw em into defense. there's no need for sp.def on something that dies to a STAB'd Thundershock. You could also get 4 spd in if you wanna get the run on other Skarmory trying to whirlwind you out.
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This is not the place to put where to rate your team. Create a thread of your own and basically paste what you just posted.
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sorry bout that, Ill do that then. Where do I make my own thread?
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In the S&M forum, there's a button near the top called Create a New thread. Post there.
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Old April 20th, 2008 (8:20 PM). Edited April 20th, 2008 by Goldeneyes.
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Porygon-Z doesn't need the electric attack. Infernape has thunderpunch and expert belt

does anyone know a good item for crobat?
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Well, you do have a point there, seeing as you do have no Psychic moves. Just consider it an option if for some reason Psychic just won't work.
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Just because a Pokemon on your team already has an Electric-type move, that doesn't mean you can't have another Pokemon with an Electric-type move. Psychic-type moves have pretty shoddy coverage and are usually only used on Pokemon who get STAB.
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Crobat should run Leftovers since you're sleeping things and acting as a tank. It's the fastest sleeper in the game, so it's important you stay alive.
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Old April 21st, 2008 (9:24 AM).
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Ok basically i'm ready to breed the team but first I want your opinion on the team. Here it is:



Crobat @ Leftovers
EVs: 160 HP / 132 Att / 216 Spe
Jolly
Hypnosis
Roost
Taunt
Aerial Ace

Yeah...

Infernape @ Expert Belt
Evs: atk252/spe252/Hp6
Jolly
Close Combat
Thunderpunch / U-Turn / Swords Dance
Flare Blitz
Stone Edge

Yeah, EQ is 100% pure fail on fighting types, too close coverage to fighting and even when EQ is super effective, a neutral Close Combat or Flare Blitz will do more.


Blissey @ Leftovers
Evs: Hp40/sp.Def216/Def252
Calm
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Thunderwave

Cool

Roserade @ Choice Specs
Evs: sp.Atk252/spe252/Hp6
Timid
Hidden power Fire
Sludge Bomb
leaf Storm

Shadow Ball / Energy Ball

Ewww, lets do this. Life Orb is horrid on Roserade, hit and run plesh

Skarmory @ Leftovers /Shed Shell
Evs: Hp252 / 16 ATT / 200 DEF / 40 SP.DEF
Impish
Roost
Brave Bird
Spikes
Whirlwind

Maor def plesh. Also consider Shed Shell, Magnezone is stupid, especially since this is your only phys wall.


Porygon-Z @ Choice Scarf
Evs: sp.Atk252/spe252/Hp6
Modest
Tri Attack
Dark Pulse
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam

EWWWWW PSYCHIC IS HORRIBLE ON THIS !!!

Scarf this, so you can revenge kill alot of threats to this team, namely Gyarados.
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T-tar, Electivire etc weak, add a Bulky ground type, it will help with those.
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Old April 23rd, 2008 (6:09 PM).
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im thinking about swapping lucario and hippowdon for roserade and crobat

Here they are:
Lucario @ Choice specs
EVs: 252 SpA/ 252 spe/4 hp
Timid
Vacuum Wave
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Psychic


Hippowdon @ Lefties
EVs: 252 hp/132 atk/ 124 def
Lax
Curse
Roar
Ice Fang
Earthquake
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Old April 24th, 2008 (3:54 AM).
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Here they are:
Lucario @ Choice specs
EVs: 252 SpA/ 252 spe/4 hp
Modest
Vacuum Wave
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Shadow Ball / Dark pulse


Hippowdon @ Lefties
EVs: 252 hp/252 DEF / 6 ATT
Impish
Slack off

Roar
Ice Fang
Earthquake

Changes in bold. No recovery on hippow is blegh^^^
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