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Originally Posted by umbros
Aquillae, jeez. Sounds a little harsh. This team could use some serious work. I agree with the common theme of "make it so not all of your pokemon have such similar weaknesses". Seriously, almost all of the fighting types in the game have a chance of running EQ, some EQ and Stone Edge. So, a fighting type with Earthquake could sweep your team after the Staraptor is gone. That's a bit too much to leave to chance.
I just don't agree with Aquillae on the suggestions for which pokemon to substitute in, as this seems to be a team themed mostly around UU tier pokemon, and those wouldn't fit in there. There's nothing wrong with using these pokemon, you just can't use them all together effectively.
So, I'd also recommend changing up the natures. I'm particularly fond of Aggron, no matter how unpopular he may be, but my tip is that anytime you're using Metal Burst, go with Relaxed nature. You'll actually want to lower your speed, as Metal Burst only works if you go second, and there are a few disturbingly slow pokes in UU. You'll still need to change up its other moves. Stone Edge is a must. I, along with pretty much everyone else here, will recommend the Rest-talking Snorlax over the Belly Drumming one. I'll avoid a ridiculously long post by only actually commenting on those two.
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Umbros, most pokemon who use Fighting moves don't run Earthquake because it gives almost the same type coverage as Fighting and Rock.
I feel this is a problem I need to address concerning the viability of certain pokemon in OU. Face it, Aggron is not going to stand up against any strong Ground/Fighting move and survive to use Metal Burst. Snorlax, Staraptor and Typhlosion are OU/BL, so this team shouldn't be considered in the UU environment.
Staraptor can't take a Fighting hit without especially Bulky EVs even with Intimidate.
Okay, I didn't suggest a UU/BL pokemon over an OU because simply his team has no need for the niches that UU pokemon fill.
Comparing CBNidoking with CBHeracross:
Nidoking @ Choice Band
Poison Point
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Sucker Punch
Heracross @ Choice Band
Guts
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Pursuit/Night Slash
The sets are almost identical considering the similar type coverage Earthquake and Close Combat have, and Pursuit/Night Slash is arguably superior to Sucker Punch due to Sucker Punch relying on prediction, and the opponent will stop attacking once he/she has figured out what you are trying to do.
Heracross has higher attack and special defence, and Nidoking and Heracross are more or less similar in terms of speed, HP and defence. Nidoking's higher special attack is of no use in a physical attacker.
Nidoking's immunity to Poison and Thunder Wave is outclassed by Heracross' Guts, meaning a free attack boost.
So, here is the question:
Why would you use CBNidoking over CBHeracross in an OU environment?
It makes no sense to use an inferior over a superior.
This is arguably the best set for Nidoking in an OU environment - the Mixed Attacker.
Nidoking @ Life Orb
Naughty, 252 Attack, 168 SpA, 88 Spe
Megahorn
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Fire Blast/Thunderbolt
Its primary purpose is to take down walls, scoring super-effective hits on the likes of Cresselia, Skarmory and Gliscor.
TyraniBoah might seem to outclass this set at first glance, but Nidoking has the added immunity to Toxic and Thunder Wave allowing it to come in on status easily. Nidoking is also faster than Boah, allowing it to outspeed threats. It can also absorb Toxic Spikes too.
The choice of pokemon varies with the metagame. I can easily tell you that the UU metagame is very different from the OU metagame, the primary walls being Grass, Psychic, Rock/Steel like Aggron and a variety of other types.
If there was no imminent threat of Swellow and other strong Normal-types like it, Aggron would not be used.
The same cannot apply to the OU environment, where fighters and Earthquakers are much more common than UU. 8 out of the 10 most used pokemon in Shoddy will rape Aggron horribly. It becomes more worrying when Aggron isn't a good switchin to most pokemon with its long list of weaknesses.
In conclusion, UU pokemon can fill niches on a given team, but you should not try to use them like OU pokemon, as there is difference in metagame and it makes no sense in using an inferior over a superior.
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but I wanted to outline some stuff that some people do not realise.
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