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Old April 25th, 2008 (5:13 AM). Edited April 25th, 2008 by sims796.
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The hell! WHO LEAVES STEELIX IN ON A FIRE MOVE?! Or ANY sp.sweepers for that manner? Is Blissey bad all ofva sudden?!

I am sick of the quality of help that always seems to come to MY threads.

Thanks to Aquillae, Dark Azelf, ABYAY, Ooka, Anti-Pop, King T & silver (to an extent). The rest, especially those pitiful Wiggytuff sets, please, stop comming this way.

As I said, to those I thanked, sorry for the team. My focus was all on Tuff, and not on the rest. As suc, I wasn't paying much attention to the rest. I'll use Piggy for sp.wallin.

Now that I have calmed down a bit, I can say this.

I want to use Tuff, Ursaring, & Typlosion (especially Plosion, since it's shiny, has great EV's, AND HP ICE), so I don't mind moving around my Pokes to make those three work.

BTW, I don't have Emerald at the moment, so if you can suggest moves that don't have Emerald tutor moves, like Ursaring with Fire Punch. A damn shame, indeed.


And forgive me if I came out a bit rough, to Allias, at least, since he was trying to help, but that was just awful advice, & I am sick of it.
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Old April 25th, 2008 (6:28 AM).
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Fling is because it lost physical Shadow Ball.
Trust me, I tried it, it worked out great. 140 Base HP is great for subs.
As it has been stated before, please avoid rating without proper knowledge. You've made this evident in your posts in this thread and in the past. Bad rates lead to mislead trainers.

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I wouldn't have steelix unless you used ev's on his special defense or got his SpD up some other way. His defense might be really good but ive got a steelix and his SpD is shocking. One Fireblast/eruption or any other strong fire attack and he'd be a goner. I had a steelix once and the same thing happend to me. I thort that he might be gud in a pack but didnt do all that much research into him and i went into a comp and steelix got snapped. So yea i just dont want anyone else making the same mistake i did.
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Old April 25th, 2008 (6:38 AM). Edited April 25th, 2008 by sims796.
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Seems Blueberry's avatar is mad at the quality as well...it would be wise not to anger him any further.

Now, this is what I have, ignore the first post, please:

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Nature:Calm
Reflect/Light Screen
Wish
Thunderwave
Hypervoice/Charm/Toxic/Ice Beam
EV:32 HP, 252 Sp.Def, 226 Def
(Ice Beam so she won't be so Taunt-able.)


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Nature:Adamant
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Facade
Night Slash
252 Atk, 252 Spe


[email protected] Orb/Choice Specs***shiny, no breeding
Nature:Modest
Eruption/Overheat
Overheat/Flamethrower
Hidden Power [ICE]
Focus Blast
EV:252 Sp.Def, 252 Spe


That's what I got now. I'd like to try out Leafeon, can he fit? What would I need to add to make those (four) useful? Or, three outta four. Sorry, Tuff.


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Nature:Impish
Leaf Blade
Agility
Baton Pass
Yawn
EV???

Any good? Yes. I know.
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Leafeon cant get Agility i dont think, *Checks Serebii* Nope, it cant


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132 HP / 160 Atk / 216 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Swords Dance
- Baton Pass
- Roar


I love this poke, Roar out PHazers before they can Roar you =) A minimum of 304 Speed is absolutely essential on this, to outrun ALL base 100 neutral and of course Adamant Garchomp =p.


This thing can also use Wish support aswell

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252 HP / 20 Def / 236 Speed
Impish nature
- Yawn
- Wish
- Protect
- Leaf Blade

Here 236 speed 285 puts you ahead of all base 80 Pokémon, which is alot. If you don’t mind being slower than the base 80 group, feel free to put those EV’s in Defense and Attack.

= Win as a Gyarados counter =)
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What the fudge?! I coulda sworn I saw Agility! That doesn't even sound like it makes sense.

I like the first set better. Can iit fit in mah team of win? And what should fill in the other two slots to make this team complete? And if I use this, should Ring use Quick Feet? And what does E=MC sq mean, anyway?
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What the fudge?! I coulda sworn I saw Agility! That doesn't even sound like it makes sense.

I like the first set better. Can iit fit in mah team of win? And what should fill in the other two slots to make this team complete? And if I use this, should Ring use Quick Feet? And what does E=MC sq mean, anyway?
E= MC sq ? E equals Mc squared LOL dont ask me, i cant do maths XD

Im pretty sure leafeon could fit in your team. I suggest using that irritating pig that dies to pursuit to beat up mixape though . <lol


Quick feet will be of more use IMO, if your passing sd's. so yeah..



EDIT : Jolteon gets Agility, not Leafeon.
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Must'a been looking at Rest. For some reason, Agility is a Psychic type move.

Ok Grumpig's in, that makes five. Now, what about the sixth?

I'll use CB on Wigglytuff, now that I have Swords Dance to pass. Maybe even Giga Impact.
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sims, I hope with Wigglytuff, Ursaring, Leafeon, Grumpig, and a defensively-weak Typhlosion on your team, you will have a Heracross-resistance.
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Yep ^^

You might want to look into that. Gliscor ftw !!!.
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sims, I hope with Wigglytuff, Ursaring, Leafeon, Grumpig, and a defensively-weak Typhlosion on your team, you will have a Heracross-resistance.
The team sounds so stupid when you say it like that :P I spend five hours thinking of a weakness, and bam, obvious.

I don't mind Gliscor. How would Dusknoir do?
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The team sounds so stupid when you say it like that :P I spend five hours thinking of a weakness, and bam, obvious.

I don't mind Gliscor. How would Dusknoir do?
But if you use Piggy with Noir, you know what im going to say.....


Pursuit *Gets shot* XD
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Those are two of my favorite Pokemon. :3 I'm thinking Gliscor because it will cover Typhlosion's Ground and Rock weakness as well. With Dusknoir, I think you'd be a little Gengar and Weavile weak.

Edit: I hate you D_A. >:<
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That's why I was thinking of giving Grumpig Reflect, and Tuff Lighht Screen. But I haven't a problem with Gliscor, just too lazy to breed XD

In fact, in my earlier teams, much earlier, Light Screen & Reflect were the main draws in my team. It worked well, till the game matured some. Don't see Brick Break as much as I used too. Bob Dole.
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Those are two of my favorite Pokemon. :3 I'm thinking Gliscor because it will cover Typhlosion's Ground and Rock weakness as well. With Dusknoir, I think you'd be a little Gengar and Weavile weak.

Edit: I hate you D_A. >:<

Oh noes !!! XD


Anyways, if you decide to use Quick feet on Ursaring, use Toxic Orb >> Flame Orb, seeing as it doesnt have guts, it kills his attack, which is bad.


EDIT :Sims, i have 2 Gliscors, would you like one ? One i dont use so it doesnt matter =p.
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Oh noes !!! XD


Anyways, if you decide to use Quick feet on Ursaring, use Toxic Orb >> Flame Orb, seeing as it doesnt have guts, it kills his attack, which is bad.
Whichever pops out the egg first.

It goes to say, I think he is immune to paralysis side effect of lowering speed with Quick Feet. Maybe he can switch into T-Wave?

And yes, when I return next week, I will jack you of your gliscor.
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I'm pretty sure Gliscor doesn't cover Ty's rock weakness thanks to its flying typing.

Also, Dusknoir is probably the best ghost besides Tomb (who Cross destroys anyways) at taking pursuit. It has WoW...and if you stay in, unSTABed Pursuits from Metagross and Heracross do laughable damage.

Just...do whatever, lol. I'm so tired I can't tell an oboe from an elbow, so just go with your gut...your gut, sims, is usually right.
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My gut also said Wigglytuff is teh uburz...

I'll sleep on it as well. I'm thinking Noir, and I am careful with the WoW useage not to go shooting it around all willy nilly.
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