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Old May 6th, 2008 (4:47 PM). Edited May 12th, 2008 by Lalapizzame.
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Levitate
252 HP/52 Attack/130 Defense/76 Special Defense
Relaxed
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Trick Room

Trick Room starter.

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Pressure
252 HP/252 Special Attack/6 Defense
Modest
Shadow Ball
HP Fighting
Pain Split
Calm Mind

Calm Minder.I plan on editing this if I find it not helping or if Trick Room goes down too much and my team falls.

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Huge Power
252 HP/252 Attack/6 Defense
Brave
Aqua Jet
Waterfall
Brick Break
Double Edge

Life Orb Azumarill that abuses Trick Room.It will still go first thanks to Aqua Jet outside of Trick Room and it hurts because of Huge Power.

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Rock Head
Jolly
252 Attack/252 Speed/6 HP
Earthquake
Double Edge
Fire Punch
Rock Slide

Powerful with Thick Club.I chose Jolly to act outside of Trick Room.

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Blaze
26 Attack/232 Special Attack/252 Speed
Naive
Flamethrower
HP Ice
Close Combat
Grass Knot

Life Orb Infernape that has tons of offense.


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Clear Body
152 HP/108 Attack/250 Speed
Adamant
Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Thunderpunch

CB Metagross.

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I don't like the idea of have Both [email protected], you will have a hard time with Pursuiters... Tomorrow I'll rate better, too tired now...
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Original, which is a thing I like, but why Leftovers and not Soul Dew on [email protected]?
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Original, which is a thing I like, but why Leftovers and not Soul Dew on [email protected]?
Because that would make them uber. They are currently being tested without soul dew.
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Wow, your really Timid Metal Sound Magnezone weak =o.


Skarm or Latias want Whirlwind or Roar respectively, or Stat uppers are going to be problematic.


DD Taunt Tyranitar rips through you like a knife through butter.

get a bulky ground, fighter please. >> One of the latis.
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Well,I feel like deleting this whole team.
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Old May 7th, 2008 (4:19 PM). Edited May 7th, 2008 by Cloud_85.
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Levitate
252 HP/48 Attack/80 Defense/130 Special Defense
Relaxed
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Hypnosis
Trick Room

Trick Room starter.The Effort Points make Special Defense 300 and the Attack gets bigger to do something if it lives.Explosion for if it's nearly dead and go KO some things.

Fine, but I'll like this a little more Supporter. Hypnosis>Explotion, you won't like blow one of your TR setters, right? And in TR you have a really fast Hypnosys which is cool...


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Pressure
252 HP/120 Attack/38 Defense/100 Special Defense
Relaxed
Shadow Punch
Trick Room
Pain Split
Fire Punch/EQ

2nd Trick Room starter should Bronzong go down(it happens quite often).Fire Punch hits Heracross for some damage and it's a 2HKO while Shadow Punch is used because Trick Room makes Dusknoir go first most of the time already and does some damage to the [email protected] Split for recovery.

Ok, I always like EQ on this to counter Heatrans.

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Solid Rock
102 HP/248 Attack/16 Defense/144 Special Defense
Sassy
Earthquake
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Fire Punch

Yeah,a Trick Room abuser.It reaches 200 Special Defense and 300 Defense so it becomes bulkier.
If you want a better Bulky give to him more Sp.Def points, anyways he will be Owned by Bulky Waters... (I don't wanna put ramdom EV so Make your calculations)

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Rock Head
160 HP/252 Attack/82 Defense/16 Special Defense
Brave
Earthquake
Stone Edge/Sword Dance
Fire Punch
Thunderpunch

Trick Room abuser.Fire Punch hits Heracross for a OHKO and Thunderpunch OHKOs Gyarados.Earthquake and Stone Edge for coverage.

This Boy want Sword Dance, replace Stone Edge, I guess It's enought T-Punch to counter Flying stuff. Watch out for Chompah, now he's unbaned and you hit neutral to him with every attack you have... Also If you don't have Dance, Cune Will own you, almost sure that it's a 3OHKO, nevermind this if I'm wrong


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Natural Cure
172 HP/202 Speed/136 Special Attack
Timid
Surf
Ice Beam/Recover
Thunderbolt/Recover
Rapid Spin

Rapid Spinner and a rather Bulky Special Sweeper.Outspeeds Infernape and Garchomp and OHKOs them both if they're not Scarfed.

Your Team is TR, so Chomp will outspeed you, this is not Bulky Enought without Recover. Anyway I hate this set of Star, she's very frail for be a Bulky, and not enought strong to be a good Sweeper...

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Clear Body
152 HP/252 Attack/6 Defense/100 Special Defense
Adamant
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion

Another miniature Bulky sweeper that's physical.

Why agility on TR actually? you may want another move. Dunno now, Maybe Zen Headbutt or something. Nice explotion.

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Your team is kinda Weavile weak, an both Metagross and Brozong have Explotion, so remove it from Brozong. Infernape own you if Starmie is dead, so more reasons for have Recover on it.

Good team, but I'll change some pokemons if I were you, Metagross and Brozong have exactly the same coverage, maybe you want try with another "Semi-Slow" pokemon, Heatran will be useful, cause you lack of hard Special Attack moves, Rest Talk will be good.

I find Rhyperior kinda useless when you already have Marowak, maybe another pokemon for more coverage, Spiritomb will be cool. NP Tomb=Ownage

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252 Sp Atk/252 HP/6 Def (You can always try a Defensive Move spread, but don't forget boost some Sp.Atk)
Nasty Plot/Calm Mind (Attack/Defense,you choice)
HP Fighting
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis/Pain Split (Again Boost/Recover, your choice)

Surprise the enemy and Hit all the metagame at least for Neutral. I always use the offensive variant, I'll try something a little more defensive I guess...
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Old May 7th, 2008 (4:24 PM).
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Your team is kinda Weavile weak, an both Metagross and Brozong have Explotion, so remove it from Brozong. Infernape own you if Starmie is dead, so more reasons for have Recover on it.

Good team, but I'll change some pokemons if I were you, Metagross and Brozong have exactly the same coverage, maybe you want try with another "Semi-Slow" pokemon, Heatran will be useful, cause you lack of hard Special Attack moves, Rest Talk will be good.

I find Rhyperior kinda useless when you already have Marowak, maybe another pokemon for more coverage, Spiritomb will be cool. NP Tomb=Ownage

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Modest
252 Sp Atk/252 HP/6 Def (You can always try a Defensive Move spread, but don't forget boost some Sp.Atk)
Nasty Plot/Calm Mind (Attack/Defense,you choice)
HP Fighting
Shadow Ball
Hypnosis/Pain Split (Again Boost/Recover, your choice)

Surprise the enemy and Hit all the metagame at least for Neutral. I always use the offensive variant, I'll try something a little more defensive I guess...
Starmie and Metagross are there for pokemon that aren't dependent on Trick Room.
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Anyways, your team is TR, and if you need them when you're in TR you'll have a trouble...
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Levitate
252 HP/48 Attack/80 Defense/130 Special Defense
Relaxed
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Hypnosis
Trick Room

Trick Room starter.The Effort Points make Special Defense 300 and the Attack gets bigger to do something if it lives.Explosion for if it's nearly dead and go KO some things.
You'll want Hypnosis on Zong.

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Pressure
252 HP/120 Attack/38 Defense/100 Special Defense
Relaxed
Shadow Punch/ Shadow Sneak
Trick Room
Pain Split
Fire Punch/ Willo-Wisp

2nd Trick Room starter should Bronzong go down(it happens quite often).Fire Punch hits Heracross for some damage and it's a 2HKO while Shadow Punch is used because Trick Room makes Dusknoir go first most of the time already and does some damage to the [email protected] Split for recovery.
Dusknoir isn't going to sweep as well as Marrowak can so Shadow Punch isn't needed as much. Snahow Sneak is good for getting in a surprise KO on a weakened Azelf. Willo-Wisp is good for criplling Tyranitar and stuff who switch in on Dusknoir and think they can KO it.

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Solid Rock
102 HP/248 Attack/16 Defense/144 Special Defense
Sassy
Earthquake
Megahorn
Stone Edge
Fire Punch

Yeah,a Trick Room abuser.It reaches 200 Special Defense and 300 Defense so it becomes bulkier.
Seems ok. I'm not good with EV spreads.

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Rock Head
160 HP/252 Attack/82 Defense/16 Special Defense
Brave
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Fire Punch
Thunderpunch

Trick Room abuser.Fire Punch hits Heracross for a OHKO and Thunderpunch OHKOs Gyarados.Earthquake and Stone Edge for coverage.
Fine. With Trick Room teams, they're sort of like Choice Scarf for slow pokemon. You'll want to get as many effective or useful hits in as possible before switching out. Swords Dance isn't nedded.

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Natural Cure
172 HP/202 Speed/136 Special Attack
Timid
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Rapid Spin

Rapid Spinner and a rather Bulky Special Sweeper.Outspeeds Infernape and Garchomp and OHKOs them both if they're not Scarfed.
It's always good to have a surprise pokemon who is fast on a TR side so you don't always depend on TR.

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Clear Body
152 HP/252 Attack/6 Defense/100 Special Defense
Adamant
Agility
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion

Another miniature Bulky sweeper that's physical.
Personally I would ditch Metagross for something which can wall special attacks better. If you don't want to ditch Metagross, that's ok but some special sweepers can do serious damage.

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Consider placing some walls or stuff into the side. I know it sounds weird having walls in a TR side but it does help. Or tanks are a good choice like Swampert. It seems rare but a Nasty Plot Azelf with Flamethrower ad Shadow Ball hurts your side badly. Sometimes it's also helpful to have a third TR starter. Also a special sweeping pokemon who can abuse TR would be good, something like Exeggutor.
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Old May 10th, 2008 (3:15 AM). Edited May 16th, 2008 by Sora_8920.
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Gorebyss, did you read the thread labeled "[email protected]?"

If not, click here.

mm... Agiligross has lost a lot of power from the gen shift, thus why running Choice Scarf is a better method ; the best set is CBGross. Some people beg to differ with automatic speed, some don't, but running Choice Scarf is probably the best thing to do this gen. BTW, congrats on the names, they're pretty cool.

Metagross @ Choice Scarf ** Xbox360
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 152 HP / 108 Spe / 248 Def
Adamant / Jolly / Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Explosion / Thunderpunch
- Bullet Punch
- Meteor Mash. Now that I think about it, Metagross has SR and Rock Polish. :0

Metagross @ Choice Band ** WindowsVista
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 152 HP / 108 Atk / 248 Def
Impish / Adamant Nature
- Meteor Mash
- Bullet Punch
- Earthquake
- Explosion / Thunderpunch. Pretty much the same thing, with a few differences.

Metagross @ Leftovers ** Smogon.com
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 152 HP / 108 Spe / 248 Def
Impish / Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Rock Polish
- Stealth Rock
- Thunderpunch / Explosion / Meteor Mash / Zen Headbutt / Pursuit / whatever
- Bullet Punch. Coolios. xD
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Metagross's CB set is above and beyond its best set...the other two don't even come close. But lol at attacking Metagross with no attack EVs.

I think Gofre kinda DID read the thread. I really don't know what you were implying...
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ooh CMnoir, huh? i've always wanted to try it, but i always thought a subpunch set would be less fail.

i suggest you give something else (dusknoir perhaps...) trick room (or maybe twave). all but 1 of your pokes are reliant on it and yet you only have bronzong, something that is very easily walled, using trick room. you're almost always guaranteed to waste a turn switching bronzong out for some alternative that might not even survive the second hit.
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ooh CMnoir, huh? i've always wanted to try it, but i always thought a subpunch set would be less fail.

i suggest you give something else (dusknoir perhaps...) trick room (or maybe twave). all but 1 of your pokes are reliant on it and yet you only have bronzong, something that is very easily walled, using trick room. you're almost always guaranteed to waste a turn switching bronzong out for some alternative that might not even survive the second hit.
I originally made Dusknoir the 2nd Trick Roomer (it once was) I was also thinking Metagross and Infernape weren't reliant on Trick Room since 238 Speed is very fast for something using Trick Room.Infernape,you already pointed out.
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metagross shouldn't have 238 speed unless it has near max speed evs... yours should have 175-176. if you ask me, that's quite a significance in speed.
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If you need something in the special Attacking department, you could try the following:

Slowking @ Lefties
Quiet | Own Tempo
<252 HP, 252 SAtk, 6 SDef>
~ Nasty Plot
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam/Grass Knot/Slack Off
~ Ice Beam/Grass Knot/Slack Off

With a 0 Spd, IV it's one the slowest things in the game.
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metagross shouldn't have 238 speed unless it has near max speed evs... yours should have 175-176. if you ask me, that's quite a significance in speed.
I designed it so it could act outside of Trick Room and that's why it has so many Speed evs.
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ok... but yours doesn't have any.

am i just wasting my time here? o_O
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ok... but yours doesn't have any.

am i just wasting my time here? o_O
-_-' Um...I deleted this team and made a new one.I forgot to edit it.
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good team bro.. really great combination :)
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Metagross's CB set is above and beyond its best set...the other two don't even come close. But lol at attacking Metagross with no attack EVs.

I think Gofre kinda DID read the thread. I really don't know what you were implying...
>_> Quoted the wrong person. I meant to quote Gorebyss...
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