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View Poll Results: Which is the coolest dragon?
Latios 3 13%
Latias 1 4%
Salamence 2 8%
Dragonite 3 13%
Flygon 2 8%
Garchomp 3 13%
Rayquaza 1 4%
Altaria 1 4%
Dialga 0 0%
Palkia 0 0%
Giratina 0 0%
More than one of the above 4 17%
Dragons are uncool 4 17%
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Old May 24th, 2008 (7:43 AM). Edited May 24th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Salamence > Dragonite
Garchomp > Both

If you're going to use 'Nite, use Outrage over Dragon Claw. That's what makes it stand out from all the other OU Dragons.

lol DD Latias. It can't get DD at all. It's Latios that does.

Generally speaking, Latias is a better choice that Latios in DP.

And what's the point of using up the Roost TM when it gets Recover via Level-Up?

Standard CM set:

[email protected] Dew(But since you're using it in OU, Leftovers)
112 HP/204 SpA/192 Spe
-Calm Mind
-Dragon Pulse
-Recover/Roost
-Grass Knot/Thunder/Refresh
LOL!!Forgot about that thing with DD. Could i use Energy Ball in the fourth slot?I willl use Outrage, i just didnt want to be stuck if someone switched in an ice, but i suppose i could KO it anyway if they did.

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Rofl this kid finally got banned :P

But anywayyyy, when he gets back mirror coat needs to be got rid of on suicune. It's too situational and physical attackers will murder it. IN fact that whole set is wrong, it's not a poke to be used offensively.
NO NEED TO BE SO OFFENSIVE!!!! You got a point with Suicune though.

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Oh wow...


If you aren't against Garchomp, use it. Suicune or Snorlax could absorb any Ice attacks directed at it, smogon has good sets for it. Dragonite is good, but from my experiances of using it on Shoddy, I highly favor Garchomp. Physical or Special would work, but since you have a few Sp Sweepers, Physical would be better.
Im against Garchomp. Its uber and ugly and totally uncool.

Could someone tell me what Suicune to use then?

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Old May 24th, 2008 (8:38 AM).
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NO NEED TO BE SO OFFENSIVE!!!! You got a point with Suicune though.

Could someone tell me what Suicune to use then?
Your posts were becoming increasingly annoying, it just made me giggle slightly :)

Suicune should be:

[email protected]
Bold
252HP/252Def/6SpDef
Rest
Sleep Talk/Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam

Standard if i remember correctly.
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Old May 24th, 2008 (8:48 AM).
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kiddo999, Please DO NOT double post,for one its against the rules and two, its in the announcements where Blueberry has made it quite clear, this is a warning as i understand your just back just after a ban, but you do it again, i will infract you, so dont do it again please.

Ive taken the liberty of merging both of your posts together.
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Old May 24th, 2008 (8:49 AM).
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Your posts were becoming increasingly annoying, it just made me giggle slightly :)

Suicune should be:

[email protected]
Bold
252HP/252Def/6SpDef
Roar
Sleep Talk/Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam/Rest/HP Electric

Standard if i remember correctly.
Roar is a necessity on Suicune and can use Roar to occasionally throw other Suicune's Calm Minds away while still keeping your own.Ice Beam if you want to hit Grass types,Rest if you want some recovery or HP Electric to counter Gyarados and prevent it from Taunting you to force you to use a weak Surf on its 100 Base Special Defense.
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Old May 24th, 2008 (8:56 AM).
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Roar is a necessity on Suicune and can use Roar to occasionally throw other Suicune's Calm Minds away while still keeping your own.Ice Beam if you want to hit Grass types,Rest if you want some recovery or HP Electric to counter Gyarados and prevent it from Taunting you to force you to use a weak Surf on its 100 Base Special Defense.
Its not actually a necessity, the set Gofre posted is Crocune (Sleep Talk/Rest/Calm Mind/ Surf) Its very effective without needing Roar.


He already has a Gyarados counter anyways, that being Mesprit WHO SHOULD HAVE Thunderbolt >> Energy Ball.


As for Latias, use Roost/Roar/Dragon Pulse/Reflect 252 HP / 200 SP.DEF / 58 DEF Calm would benefit this team more.

But yeah, Suicune wants max def and hp @Bold always.
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great team i agrre with the guy who did seond poast

everyone iam going for100 poasts
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Old May 24th, 2008 (9:31 AM). Edited May 24th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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great team i agrre with the guy who did seond poast

everyone iam going for100 poasts
Why is the bolded part relevant ?. Use proper grammar to.

Dont spam again either please or you will be infracted. That contributed nothing to this thread at the end of the day.
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Sorry about the double post, just after 4mins i couldnt find my post, so i tried again. So, ill go with your Suicune, Mesprit with T-bolt, but still one thing. Why is Energy Ball bad on Latias? Cant i use that instead of Reflect?And why no Calm Mind ThAT COULD USE THAT SLOT TOO SURELY/
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Sorry about the double post, just after 4mins i couldnt find my post, so i tried again. So, ill go with your Suicune, Mesprit with T-bolt, but still one thing. Why is Energy Ball bad on Latias? Cant i use that instead of Reflect?And why no Calm Mind ThAT COULD USE THAT SLOT TOO SURELY/
Reflect stops it from getting owned by Pursuit and helps support your team.

Energy Ball is blegh, Latias has better things to do than that.
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Old May 24th, 2008 (11:25 AM). Edited May 26th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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O.k. do you know whyu, when i checked this page whilst i was banned it said i was "an obvious road not too far from victory" and now it says"kiddo999 has disabled reputation" again? Oh, and what happened to my SIGPIC?

Okay, is this better than before?


Dragonite @ Life Orb
Jolly
252atk,252spd,4hp
Outrage
Fire Punch
EQ
Dragon Dance

Hasn't been changed, probably never will be.


Snorlax @ Leftovers
Careful
230hp,32def,248sp.def
Rest
Sleep Talk
Body Slam
Earthquake

You'd know about it if this guy Body-Slammed you in the morning.

Gengar @ Wide Lens
Timid
252spd,252sp.atk,4hp
Hypnosis
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt

No changes here then.


[email protected]
Bold
252HP/252Def/6SpDef
Rest
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam

The purity within

Latias @ Lefties
Calm
252hp,200sp.def,58spd
Calm Mind
Dragon Pulse
Roost
Roar/U-turn (quick getaways)/Dark Pulse (if it can learn it)
Dunno about this one. Trying to take advice, but i think it cant sweep a thing, and i'm a very attacking person.

Mesprit @ Leftovers
Bold
252hp,176def,80sp.atk
Ice Beam
Psychic
U-turn
T-bolt

Ice Beam for Dragons,Psychic for STAB+Fight/Poison,U-turn for quick escapes against Dark types,T-bolt for Gyarados. The worst of the trio really, but it can use that to its advantage (i think Azelf is better at this attacking, and Uxie is good at walling. Mesprit's just yet another weaker version of Mew)
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Old May 26th, 2008 (11:44 AM). Edited May 26th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Kiddo, im not going to say this again, but if you double post again, i will infract you and close this thread. Im not joking, having to merge each of your double posts together is annoying. If you wish to post consecutively, use THE EDIT button, which is located in the bottom RIGHT of your posts.
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Old May 27th, 2008 (6:18 AM). Edited May 27th, 2008 by Divine~Deoxys.
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Kiddo, im not going to say this again, but if you double post again, i will infract you and close this thread. Im not joking, having to merge each of your double posts together is annoying. If you wish to post consecutively, use THE EDIT button, which is located in the bottom RIGHT of your posts.
I thought double-posting was where you did them both in about half an hour, i posted again because i had got a team to be rated.So will you rate the team?
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... Isn't Latias still considered Uber? Meaning you wouldn't be able to use this team at all?
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... Isn't Latias still considered Uber? Meaning you wouldn't be able to use this team at all?
If you use her with Soul Dew.If you use her with something like Leftovers,you can use her outside of Ubers.
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If you use her with Soul Dew.If you use her with something like Leftovers,you can use her outside of Ubers.
Really? When did Smogon come to a decision on that? I've heard nothing about that.
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Old May 27th, 2008 (5:23 PM).
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Really? When did Smogon come to a decision on that? I've heard nothing about that.
Nah, its just here, its currently being tested on how it functions and influences in OU without soul dew at the wireless battle stadium in the Latias tourney.
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And I heard nothing about that either... Oh well.
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Old May 28th, 2008 (1:16 AM).
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Yeah, thats the only reason im using it. Anyone want a shoddybattle?
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:nervous:Please let this through dudes!!:'(

Okay, just so you know, this is for if [email protected] DO get declared fit for OU, if not i shall use differnet pokes instead.

Latios @ Leftovers
Naive
252spd,252sp.atk,4hp
Dragon Pulse
Psychic/Substitute
Grass Knot
Calm Mind

If you give your Latios a 252/252/4 spread you might as well use Soul Dew or Life Orb.

Calm Mind to set up my other moves, although substitute might make this easier, i am not sure whether to drop Psychic for it. Special Sweeper.

Latias @ Leftovers
Calm
200hp,200spd,108sp.def
Psychic
Wish
Psycho Shift
Protect

Psychic>Mist Ball. Weird Special Wall. IMO I would stick Toxic in there somewhere...And use Soul Dew>Leftovers

Nothing like the smogon sets, as i am using it as a special wall, not a sweeper.

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Jolly
252atk,252spd,4hp
Outrage
Dragon Dance
Thunderpunch
Earthquake

It is more common for Dragonite to encounter Water-types using Ice-type attacks than Ice-types using Ice-type attacks themselves (i.e. Suicune, Swampert, Blastoise...)

Physical sweeper. Probably makes this a bit Dragon-heavy, but hey, that's just how i roll.

Suicune @ Leftovers
Bold
252hp,252def,4sp.atk
Surf
Rest
Reflect
Roar

Hmm...Rest>Ice Beam.

Made for durability, but without a healing move of its own, so if Latias is down, i'm screwed. can hit what the Dragons can't.

Gengar @ Life Orb
Timid
252sp.atk,252spd,4hp
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast
Hypnosis

Probably your best moveset. I hope you don't miss with Hypnosis though. >.<

Just standard for me thanks. After the [email protected] and my Lucario i am not very confident at making my own sets.

Lucario @ Leftovers
Naive
200atk,200spd,108sp.atk (coz the only one is STAB boosted anyway)
Aura Sphere
Extremespeed
Substitute
Focus Punch

IMO Lucario is a poor choice for a SubPuncher in comparison to BOAH Tyranitar.

Sub-puncher that can sub before it gets hit itself. ucario are awesome, hope i haven't ruined one.

So, like i said, this is for if the Latis ARE declared OU, and it's very dragon heavy, but i just think these three are cool, even more than all other dragons, the other three in the team, and penguins.
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...Yeah, [email protected] w/ Soul Dew is uber.
 

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