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Old May 21st, 2008 (2:53 PM). Edited May 21st, 2008 by Syaoran.
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- Garchomp wasn't taken into consideration when building this, but I guess I can handle it smartly, regardless.





I'm A Dragon, Honest. (Gyarados) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP/100 Atk/112 Def/40 Spd/4 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Rest
- Sleep Talk




WHERE'S THE ANTIDOTE? (Breloom) (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 44 HP/220 Atk/244 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch
- Spore
- Substitute




Tranny (Heatran) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 20 HP/236 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]




Tea Time (Tyranitar) (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/120 Atk/136 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge




Polly (Zapdos) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/140 Spd/4 SAtk/16 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Roost
- Roar
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Discharge




Bellhop (Bronzong) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/160 Atk/52 Def/44 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Trick Room / Light Screen
- Earthquake
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Old May 21st, 2008 (3:24 PM).
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Infernape rampages through this whole team except Zapdos. Breloom and Bronzong by Flamethrower, Tyranitar and Heatran by Close Combat, and Gyarados by Thunderpunch.
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Old May 21st, 2008 (3:28 PM).
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Yea that wasn't very smart..

- Thunderpunch doesn't kill Gyarados thanks to its bulky build and Intimidate.
- Heatran is faster and can Earth Power.
- Zapdos can easily kill with HP Fly.
- If Infernape comes in Light Screen or Trick Room, Bronzong kills with EQ.

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Old May 21st, 2008 (3:36 PM).
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Awesome artwork =D

Looks solid, but from the looks of it, your team is very slow. Discharge probably helps, but Thunder Wave support would probably be welcome, and your only really fast pokemon is restricted to one move and is pretty easily walled. Just some stuff to consider.

Pretty solid though. Your team seems plenty bulky enough to negate the low speed, so I doubt it's a big problem.

EDIT: I dunno, Zapdos handles physical Ape well and NP-less Mixape in all of its failure dies to Gyarados, SR or not.

Not to mention it can't switch in on any of Sya's pokemon, and Heatran can revenge it badly. Zapdos isn't a pal either. In other words, I doubt it really rampages through this team at all.
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Old May 21st, 2008 (7:45 PM).
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- Credit to Ashes for the nicknames.
- Garchomp wasn't taken into consideration when building this, but I guess I can handle it smartly, regardless.





I'm A Dragon, Honest. (Gyarados) (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP/100 Atk/112 Def/40 Spd/4 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Waterfall
- Dragon Dance
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

I've never ran a Sleep Talk set, but I'll take your word.



WHERE'S THE ANTIDOTE? (Breloom) (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 44 HP/220 Atk/244 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Leech Seed
- Focus Punch
- Spore
- Substitute

-_-...This thing gave me nightmares.



Tranny (Heatran) (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 20 HP/236 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Earth Power
- Explosion
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Looks fine



Tea Time (Tyranitar) (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/120 Atk/136 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Pursuit
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

No wonder why Specs Bug Buzz didn't OHKO it. You could on the off-chance put those sp.def EVs into Def for a more all-around bulky build, but your choice.



Polly (Zapdos) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/140 Spd/4 SAtk/16 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Roost
- Roar
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Discharge

Why just 4 sp.atk? Seems a little weird to have it.



Bellhop (Bronzong) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/160 Atk/52 Def/44 SDef
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Trick Room / Light Screen
- Earthquake

*Doesn't know Zong well, so we'll go with that*
The team is a little slow, aside from Scarf Heatran, who is locked in one move, and Dos after a DD, who is easily sent out at the sight of Vappy, and when Zappy comes in, it's going to get Toxic'd pretty quickly. However, the team shows strength in being really sturdy. Expect games with this team to last a decent while.
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Old May 22nd, 2008 (12:53 AM).
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not digging the gyara set. also, trick room is a wasted slot. light screen is ok, but maybe you should consider explosion/psychic. psychic would still do ok damage w/o sp atk evs it just probably wouldn't come in handy that commonly (i would think donphan is a common switch in...).
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Old May 22nd, 2008 (5:13 AM).
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Samsyyy: I rarely see Donphan anymore, and he can't really do anything anyway.. Psychic will do very poor damage.. I know that from experience - trying to run a mixed Zong.. Trick Room is what I'm currently running and it saved me a lot of times.. Infernape / Heatran / Magnezone and other threats doesn't enjoy switching on Trick Room. With Stealth Rock it's pretty handy at causing them to switch out. I might try Light Screen. Explosion is nice too.

ABYAY, sorry for the poor battle on my part yesterday! I'm only decent when it plays pokemon tracks on winamp ;__;


and yea, the artwork IS awesome.
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Old May 22nd, 2008 (7:01 AM).
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I personally would say that Reflect may be of more benefit on Zong tbh, SD Lucario causes problems when it has Stone Edge, same with SD Ape (Which is a ohko on Gyara after a SD with Stone Edge with Expert Belt, EVEN factoring intimidate) and Machamp can hurt aswell, it will help Zapdos and Zong cushion blows from them all in the long run, something to consider.
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