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Old May 30th, 2008 (11:52 AM).
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its basically the same as my last post but i need help with move sets




Z (porygon Z) @ lum berry
modest (adaptability)
Ev: 252 spec att, 252 speed, 4 hp
- hp(fighting)
-nasty plot
-tri attack
-Ice beam
Note: love this guy, tri attack pwns, and hp fighting is kick but on other porygon z starters


they see me wallin' (skarmory) @ leftovers
lax (keen eye)
Ev: 252 hp, 252 def, 4 speed
-brave bird
-roost
-stealth rock
-whirlwind
Note: physical wall, destroys fighting...


Revenge (dugtrio) @ life orb
jolly (arena trap)
Ev: 252 att, 252 speed, 4 hp
-earthquake
-aerial ace
-night slash
-stone edge
Note: name says it all, and it's great at it (heatran's nightmare dugtrio)


garchomp the uber (garchomp) @ focus slash
hasty (sand veil)
Ev: 252 att, 252 speed, 4 hp
-earthquake
-dragon claw
-sword dance
-fire fange
Note: capable of sweep a bad team, capable of doing a heck of damage


RLH (gengar) @ wide lens
modest (levate)
ev: 252 spec att, 252 speed, 4 hp
-focus blast
-shadowball
-thunderbolt
-hyponsis
Note: very strong, very annoying


fat whore (blissey) @ leftovers
calm (natural care)
Ev: 80 spec att, 252 def, 176spec def
-soft boil
-ice beam
-aromatherapy
-thunderwave
Note: no other poke spec walls like this
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Old May 30th, 2008 (12:08 PM).
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Ew, Blissey EVs should be 40 HP / 252 DEF / 216 SP.DEF. ._. I'm not too fond of Modest > Timid on Gengar, and Wide Lens only give a 10% accuracy boost, unfortunately. =/ Focus Sash is actually irrelevant on Garchomp, as it should be holding Life Orb or whatnot. I just prefer the extra power really quick, so that's why I run Life Orb. It's really all personal preference, weather you want more survivability, or more powaer.

Since Arena Trap's effect is negated on Levitate Pokemon such as Gengar; Azelf; etcetera; you may want to go Pursuit on Dugtrio. It might be a good notion to note that Aerial Ace is pretty much a gimmick on Dugtrio, as you want be keeping it on Grass Types usually anyway. [/sarcasm]

The extra Speed invested in Speed is pretty redundant, as Skarmory really doesn't require it. Investing the four or six EVs leftover (your choice, really.) in Attack is probably a better idea. =P As for Porygon-Z, it's fine, although since it's base speed isn't really that passive, you may want to go Timid instead of Modest.

Gengar 5-0's this team without Pursuit or Sucker Punch on Dugtrio, so as aforementioned, it might be a good idea to put Pursuit on Dugtrio. Don't forget Sucker Punch, either. Again, it's all up to your personal preference. And a tad of predicting as well. :P
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Old May 30th, 2008 (12:12 PM). Edited May 30th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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its basically the same as my last post but i need help with move sets




Z (porygon Z) @Leftovers
Timid (adaptability)
Ev: 252 spec att, 252 speed, 4 hp
- hp(fighting)
- nasty plot
- tri attack
- Dark Pulse

That offers more coverage or your walled by Ghost. AKA Dusknoir. Lum Berry is pointless with Aromatherapy support. Timid please so you can outrun all neutral base 100's =/



they see me wallin' (skarmory) @ Shed Shell.
lax (keen eye)
Ev: 252 hp, 252 def, 4 speed
-brave bird
-roost
-stealth rock
-whirlwind

Gets murdered by Fighting attacks itself and cant switch in on Machamp, Lucario etc...

Use Shed Shell or your only physical wall goes bye ....


Revenge (dugtrio) @ life orb
jolly (arena trap)
Ev: 252 att, 252 speed, 4 hp
-earthquake
-aerial ace
-night slash
-stone edge

Heatran outspeeds this as the majority of them are scarfed =/


garchomp the uber (garchomp) @Life Orb/Yache Berry
hasty (sand veil)
Ev: 252 att, 252 speed, 4 hp
-earthquake
-dragon claw
-sword dance
-fire fange

Focus Sash is ewww.


RLH (gengar) @ wide lens
Timid (levate)
ev: 252 spec att, 252 speed, 4 hp
-focus blast
-shadowball
-thunderbolt
-hypnosis

Timid, Modest is awful and you get outsped by things you SHOULD be outspeeding.



fat whore (blissey) @ leftovers
calm (natural care)
Ev: 80 spec att or HP , 252 def, 176spec def
- soft boil
- Seismic Toss
- aromatherapy
- thunderwave / Ice Beam / Toxic

This NEEDS seismic toss or its fail.
Comments in bold.

Lucario kinda owns you


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252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Extremespeed
- Close Combat
- Sword Dance

OHKO's both gengar AND Skarmory after a Swords Dance with Stealth Rock support and you have no spinner.... so yeah. Nothing else can even take a hit from it on this team anyways.

Mixape does aswell, only dugtrio saves you...

So does Taunt Gyarados.

You really do need a solid fighting resist, i would use Bulky Mence >> Garchomp.

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224 HP / 12 ATT / 196 DEF / 76 SPEED
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Earthquake

Helps with Lucario weak.


I would also maybe use Scarf Gar,


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252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Timid Nature
- Hidden power Ice / Hypnosis
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast

So your not so Gyarados weak and can revenge kill it.....
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Old May 30th, 2008 (6:11 PM).
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Um Itachi, Aerial Ace is for Breloom/Hera ._.

And yeah, the last physical attackers Skarm stops are fighters.

I would replace P-Z or Gengar though. One is fast while the other is strong, but neither really sweep all that well. Seeing as you rely on Gengar for a fighting resist (though I warn you that's a very bad idea), you should probably replace P-Z with something stronger defensively.
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