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Old June 17th, 2008 (9:06 PM). Edited June 19th, 2008 by The Bringer!.
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I'm kinda new to competive battling and such, so bare with me if you will.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Sassy and Levitate
252 HP/ 128 ATK/ 128 SPD
Gyro Ball
Hypnosis
Stealth Rock
Earthquake

I may lead with this.

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Impish and Chlorophyll
252 HP/ 228 DEF/ 28 SPE
Power Whip
Knock Off
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder

My physical wall.

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Impish and Sand Veil
252 HP/ 4 ATK/ 252 DEF
Aerial Ace
Ice Fang
Knock Off
Roost

I decided to replace blissey with this to better deal with heracross. I went AA over earthquake to faint it faster.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold/ Careful and Sychronize
252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 6 SPD
Mean Look
Baton Pass
Wish
Moonlight/ Protect

I think trap-passing is very usefull, which is why I realy like this eeveelution. For the fourth slot I don't know if I should do the protect-wish combo or use moonlight.

Tentacruel @ Leftovers/ Shuca Berry
Calm and Liquid Ooze
204 HP/ 96 SPA/ 172 SPD/ 36 SPE
Surf
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Toxic Spikes

Shuca Berry for earthquakes that are faster than surf/ ice beam. I have to be careful about toxic spikes however, seeing as it can help heracross a lot.

Drapion @ Razor Claw
Jolly/ Adament and Sniper
40 HP/ 252 ATK/ 216 SPE
Swords Dance
Night Slash
Brick Break
Roar

Apparently some people don't like razor claw so I may have to switch to life orb. Roar is useful since I don't have a PHazer.

Ok, so thats basicly it. I will try to benefit from your critisism.
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Old June 18th, 2008 (11:07 AM).
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You probably should have another damaging move on Tangrowth, since Power Whip has only 10 pp.
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Tangrowth is fine, don't put Block on it. If you really hate Blissey then Cresselia or Regice can replace her. Actually, I don't see a need for her at all. Between Tentacruel and Bronzong you've got special walling covered.

Gliscor and Weezing are good Heracross counters.
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Old June 18th, 2008 (3:39 PM). Edited June 18th, 2008 by ΜσdαΜϑrdεrεr.
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Bronzong @ Leftovers/Lagging Tail
Sassy and Levitate
252 HP/ 128 ATK/ 128 SPD
Gyro Ball
Hypnosis/
Stealth Rock
Earthquake/ Reflect
Try that

Brongzong @leftovers
Relaxed nautre
Levitate
252 HP/ 6 ATK/ 252 DEF
Gyro Ball
Hpnosis/ Sleep talk
Stealth Rock
Light Screen/ Earthquake

Gyro ball;
This move's base power is given by the formula 1 + floor(25 * Target's Speed / User's Speed), where floor means round down. This is capped at 150 power. This formula uses actual Speed, not base Speed.

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Old June 18th, 2008 (3:59 PM).
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You can replace blissey for Dusknoir or Cress, thats what i would do, I really really really hate Blissey
My set for dusknoir, some ppl dont like it though, dont know why, it doesnt matter how hard yout ry, keep that in mind...

Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Ev: 252def/252spD/6att
Adamant Nature
Pain Split
Ice Punch
Will-o-Wisp
Trick Room/Shadow Sneak
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Thanks for the advice people! I edited the first post to the changes I made. I still would like some opinions on what moveset to give drapion, however. Once again, thanks for the advice.
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Old June 18th, 2008 (9:15 PM).
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Thanks for the advice people! I edited the first post to the changes I made. I still would like some opinions on what moveset to give drapion, however. Once again, thanks for the advice.
SD should stay on Drapion, and having a PHazer is not bad, so Roar is Nice.
I don't care about your third move, someone else should recommend that, cuz I'm not entirely sure. You definitely need Ice Fnag in there though. Cover's Drapions only weakness pretty well.
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Old June 18th, 2008 (9:42 PM).
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lol, the only ground type that isn't gonna be hammered by Night Slash is Steelix, and even Ice Fang won't help against him.

I prefer the Choice Band version of Drapion, but then I'm always a fan of CB Pursuiting

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Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 216 Spd, 40 HP
-Night Slash
-Brick Break
-Fire Fang
-Pursuit/Cross Poison

Is how I run Drapion, Cross Poison gets a mention due to it's high Crit ratio, which when combined with Sniper is rather annoying.

But yeah standard stuff here, Night Slash for STAB, Brick Break for steels, Fire Fang for floaty steels (Skarm, Bronzong, Magnet Rise Magnezone) as well as Metagross/Jirachi.
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Old June 18th, 2008 (10:27 PM).
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I'm kinda new to competive battling and such, so bare with me if you will.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Sassy and Levitate
252 HP/ 128 ATK/ 128 SPD
Gyro Ball
Hypnosis
Stealth Rock
Earthquake

I may lead with this.

Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Impish and Chlorophyll
252 HP/ 228 DEF/ 28 SPE
Power Whip
Knock Off
Leech Seed
Sleep Powder

My physical wall.

Gliscor @ Leftovers
Impish and Sand Veil
252 HP/ 4 ATK/ 252 DEF
Aerial Ace
Ice Fang
Knock Off
Roost

I decided to replace blissey with this to better deal with heracross. I went AA over earthquake to faint it faster.

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold/ Careful and Sychronize
252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 6 SPD
Mean Look
Baton Pass
Wish
Moonlight/ Protect

I think trap-passing is very usefull, which is why I realy like this eeveelution. For the fourth slot I don't know if I should do the protect-wish combo or use moonlight.

Tentacruel @ Leftovers/ Shuca Berry
Calm and Liquid Ooze
204 HP/ 96 SPA/ 172 SPD/ 36 SPE
Surf
Ice Beam
Rapid Spin
Toxic Spikes

Shuca Berry for earthquakes that are faster than surf/ ice beam. I have to be careful about toxic spikes however, seeing as it can help heracross a lot.

Drapion @ Razor Claw
Jolly/ Adament and Sniper
40 HP/ 252 ATK/ 216 SPE
Swords Dance
Night Slash
Brick Break/ Earthquake
Fire Fang/ Roar

Apparently some people don't like razor claw so I may have to switch to leftovers. Don't know about the third slot, and fire fang provides coverage, while roar is usefull since I don't have a PHazer.

Ok, so thats basicly it. I will try to benefit from your critisism.
It's not bad but you don't have very many damaging pokemon aside from your drapion.

I'd suggest switching some pokes, you have like 3-4 walls in that team... You'll generally be running around stall-warring
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Old June 19th, 2008 (12:47 PM).
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I see what you mean. Should I make gliscor more offensive or just replace someone all together? Also, should I have a priority move in there somewhere?
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I wouldnt suggest making gliscor offensive as you need a wall if bronzong is going to be your lead...it's fine as is.

I feel you should take out tangrowth as that really doesn't do much for this team. Your team seems bulky enough as is and you dont have anybody that can really hit hard...someone whose got good special attack as well because alot of guys on your team hit physically. It's really up to you what you want because the kind of special attackers out there are pretty limitless....
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Old June 19th, 2008 (6:21 PM).
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How would this work for a special sweeper?

Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Modest and Adaptability
252 SPA/ 252 SPE/ 6 HP
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
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Old June 19th, 2008 (6:28 PM).
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How would this work for a special sweeper?

Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Modest and Adaptability
252 SPA/ 252 SPE/ 6 HP
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Looks good to me man =) You just have to know the right time to NP
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Old June 19th, 2008 (6:56 PM).
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How would this work for a special sweeper?

Porygon-Z @ Life Orb
Modest and Adaptability
252 SPA/ 252 SPE/ 6 HP
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Nasty Plot
Tri Attack
Honestly Download is usually more useful. It may seem "unreliable," but it's generally easy to come in on something with higher defense than special defense.

Porygon-fail isn't really a very good sweeper though, as it is fragile with no good resistances to help it out, and is fairly slow whether it's Timid or Modest.
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Old June 19th, 2008 (6:58 PM).
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Honestly Download is usually more useful. It may seem "unreliable," but it's generally easy to come in on something with higher defense than special defense.

Porygon-fail isn't really a very good sweeper though, as it is fragile with no good resistances to help it out, and is fairly slow whether it's Timid or Modest.
Yea if you end up using Porygon-Z though make sure you nickname it 'Failigon-Z' to remind everyone how much PHAIL anti says it is ;)

You could also try Special or Mix- Infernape
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Old June 19th, 2008 (9:19 PM).
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I was able to finally stop being lazy and went and caught this thing:

Heatran @ Leftovers
Modest and Flash Fire
252 HP/ 96 DEF/ 100 SPA/ 60 SPD
Rest
Sleep Talk
Lava Plume
Earth Power

I think it could help to absorb status since I don't have aromatherapy blissey anymore.
 

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