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Old June 21st, 2008 (10:03 PM). Edited June 21st, 2008 by Spazzy.
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I wanted a Leafeon because they are awesome, but I couldn't see what it could do other than blow an SD over to something with a deeper movepool via baton pass. So I checked all of the types that neither grass nor bug could hit for nuetral. Fire, steel, flying, and poison were the 4 troublesome ones. So out of sheer curiosity, I began looking at all the stuff that hit for nuetral or more on those types. I found out electric and water could hit all 4 for nuetral or super effective. I thought electric would work better because fire is more rare than flying as far as I've seen. I thought for a second, "HP Electric!" then I realized that was a sad pipe dream as it didn't have any special. Later, while cruising smogon movelists I saw something that said natural gift. I didn't know much about the move, so I whipped out the bulbapedia and looked it up. Hits as any type, up to 80 damage, can only be used once... physical! It all snapped together, it was almost a physical hidden power, except only having one use. Jolly, 252 speed, 252 attack, 4 hp, Leaf Blade, X-Scizzor, Swords Dance, and Natural Gift. With a Belue Berry, that's 80 physical electric. I checked, and the only thing it can't hit at all is Dialga, so outside of ubers, it's safe. I've been testing it out some on PBR, and it works fine there, so I thought I'd spread the word, see if anyone liked the idea.
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Old June 21st, 2008 (10:07 PM).
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Yea this is in the wrong board.
Just report your own post and the mods/admins will move the thread.
I agree with your idea.
I'm training one for my team.
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Old June 21st, 2008 (10:08 PM).
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Moved it already. Cheers.
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Old June 21st, 2008 (10:18 PM).
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Moved it already. Cheers.
Thanks man. filler text 25 character minumum lalalalala
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Natural Gift is one-time and it uses up the berry, so at most you would be able to KO one pokemon. That is compounded by the fact that Natural Gift Belue Berry is a weak UnSTABed 80 Base Power move, meaning if it does hit neutral it wouldn't do much damage. Leaf Blade is more consistent on a whole.

Baton Pass > Natural Gift.
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Old June 21st, 2008 (10:25 PM).
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Thanks man. filler text 25 character minumum lalalalala
You are not aloud to Bypass the charachter limit.

I agree with Aquilae he is right.
Good work Aquilae!
The post you made sounded like you put alot of thought into it.
It's a pretty good post.
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Old June 21st, 2008 (10:43 PM).
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Natural Gift is one-time and it uses up the berry, so at most you would be able to KO one pokemon. That is compounded by the fact that Natural Gift Belue Berry is a weak UnSTABed 80 Base Power move, meaning if it does hit neutral it wouldn't do much damage. Leaf Blade is more consistent on a whole.

Baton Pass > Natural Gift.
Thing is though, with swords dance, it still hits fairly hard. Usually hard enough to make something easy enough to finish off with a leaf blade. I have to agree though, passing is a better option, but in all honesty, after my terrible experiences with a toxic only cradily against poison and steel types, and an umbreon with no attack moves, I like when something can fend for itself when it's all alone. Say you got a swords dance off, on a CB ground type using earthquake, you kill that, it's one on one, you both are on your last leg, and your opponent of all things tosses out a Charizard! Naturally, it quickly turns into a slaughterfest involving much pain and "grr 1/4 damage, if only I had some form of electric move." That's just me and my paranoia though. Charizard is faster anyway. Oh well, I'll do my thing, smart people do theirs.
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Aquiliae is right, Natural Gift is a once only move, and an un-STAB'd 80 base power move shouldn't even be considered, especially considering it removes room for another move that would actually be a nessecity. Baton Pass over Natural Gift plox.

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Old June 22nd, 2008 (6:55 AM). Edited June 22nd, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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No need to make an entire thread, JUST for this. Use the stickies at the top.

Also by the part in the title "Someone move this" it sounds like your deliberately trying to bypass the thread getting allowed by mods. DONT. And dont bypass character limit.


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