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Old June 25th, 2008 (7:40 AM).
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Jolly (-SpA, +Spe)
Static
252 Spe/252 HP/6 Atk

Thunder Wave
Toxic
Taunt
Explosion

You don't see Electrode often, do you? Understandable, as it's essentially an unnecessarily fast Raichu without Grass Knot or decent offensive stats... or is it? It can actually spread status really well, though. Bring it in as a lead, and watch the chaos unfold as this thing incapacitates your opponent's own lead with a nasty Thunder Wave or Toxic. Block recovery with Taunt to force switches and allow the spreading of more paralysis/poison. If they try to attack, Focus Sash can keep you around long enough to go out with a boom, blowing the foe to bits, as well as yourself. Proper switching can paralyze the entire team.

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Naïve (-SpD, +Spe)
Pressure
252 SpA/160 Atk/96 Spe

Psychic
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Superpower

Fairly standard mixed sweeping Deoxys-S. Bring it in late-game to clean house.

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Natural Cure
252 HP/120 SpD/138 Def

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Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Sing

Sing to force switches, hit with BoltBeam, soak damage, and heal.

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Speed Boost
252 SpA/252 SpD/6 HP

Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Giga Drain
Hypnosis

Simple special sweeper- Sleep them, then fire away with your moves. It can also kill Deoxys-S with a few Speed Boosts under its belt.

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Impish (-SpA, +Def)
Overgrow
252 HP/20 Def/256 Spe

Substitute
Leech Seed
Earthquake
Seed Bomb

Substitute, Leech Seed, and bash away, It's quite simple.

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Adamant (-SpA, +Atk)
Sniper
252 Atk/252 Spe/6 HP

Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Return
Draco Meteor

Dracon Dance up and sweep. Couldn't be simpler.
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Old June 25th, 2008 (1:00 PM).
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Blissey needs seismic toss. Electrode needs something to damage with, other than explosion. You need Thunder(bolt) on it or some other STAB move. Since many electric moves Paralyze, I would replace TWave.
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Old June 25th, 2008 (1:48 PM). Edited June 25th, 2008 by sims796.
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I don't kow much on Electrode, but I wouldn't go there, Gengarchomp. His offenses aren't so hot, but he leads the fastest Explosion, and he still has great status moves. Well, the fastest status moves at least.

On that note, you greatly overestimate his abilities. It is very easy to make a wrong move, and any educated opponent will know what it can do. Basically, they might just straight up go for the KO. Even if they get status, it might not matter. Plus, he cannot switch into any attack to save his life, save stat-uppers & revenge kills, limiting his switching ability. Add that with the fact that he is using Sash in a Tta/Spikes/Stealth Rock enviorment, and it's more like he's leaving with a fizzle. You make the opponent seem like a bubling idiot. "Oh no, Mence is paralyzed! duh, I'll switch! D'oh, he's Toxified! Better switch!" The chances of you statusing their entire team with Electrode is unlikely. Plus, any cleric ruins this plan.

As such, HP EV's AND Focus Sash is stupid. No other word. Just stupid. Focus Sash is meant for pokes with little survivability. What, HP EV's are gonna make it survive? Then why use Sash? That's a waste of 252 EV's, better spent towards Sp.Atk/Atk.

He has passable Sp.Atk, so yeah, T-Bolt is in ordah.


"Sing to force switches"

Sing to miss with a 55% accuraacy. That blissey is walled terribly. Yeah, just give it Seismec Toss. Then it won't be so Calm Mind/Substitute/Sp.Wall Metal Sound weak.


Giga Drain? Did you get that from Smogon? Meh, Proctect is better. It doesn't offer any coverage, and is unecessary. He isn't surviving much.


Why the hell did you give Torterra Speed EVs? To sweep? Pump his defense. He's slow as dirt. Or a tree. Either way, Lum Berry AND Substitute is almost as bad as HP EVs & Focus Sash. Yeah yeah, status Protect. Whatever. Leftovers makes more sense. If you really want him to bash, give him Choice Band. If you do, lose Substitute.



I also see 0 walls. 0. If your expecting Electrode to status your threats, good luck. Outside of Stealth Rock, which removes most of your teams "main pokes", and your team is easy to sweep. Ttar weak, Weavile weak, Mixape weak, PHYSICAL Ape weak, Metagross weak...

There's a term for that. Oh yeah, metagame weak.

MOAR WALLS!
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with all of that speed on your team you may need a bulky pokemon trick room teams seem to spell disaster with so many speedy pokemon
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Good point. Trick Room Teams can be tricky. Still, Bulky isn't enough. As I said...


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Old June 26th, 2008 (2:06 AM).
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yea your team does need " MOAR WALLS!" as sims said.


due to my current view of wifi battling i am suggesting this set. i feel there is no need for 2 special attackers so that is why i suggest adding like to replace one pure special attacker for a support pokemon or mixed sweeper.

so i "recommend" adding
skarmory(i don't like skarmbliss but if it helps someone o well)
blissey
starmie
electrode
deoxys
kingdra

skarmory provides phazing support aswell as denting annoying heracross and does an exceptable job at dealing with lucario who love to set up on blissey

blissey is literally the best wall in the game although i hate this set up beyond compare ill recommend it anyway(i will just shoot myself later)providing healbell support and packing natural cure you can freely choose another sweeper who will be a restalker other than one i have recommend. sesmic toss wears down things and you can choose thunder bolt or toxic to decide if you wish to deal with gyrados then and there or cripple bulky waters and other frail pokemon. the last slot is a reliable recovery move soft boiled.

starmie is your rapid spinner gyrados mixape.......basically its your support for the above pokemon. packing natural cure you can spin away spikes hit gyrados or mixape using thunder bolt and surf and the last move recommend is recover.

I admire the use of a uu lead. electrode starts off crippling pokemon unless they switch to a status absorber. although you are suppose to run from leads like tyranitar. i believe it does well at stomping the minds of trainers who know only ou pokemon. better to fight a criple pokemon than one with full capablities, but remember some pokemon perform better crippled *cough heracross* excuse me... moving on

with all the support provided you dont have to worry about thunder waves on your speed deom deoxys. pwn walls or come in late game its your choice. replacing yanmega becasue sr destroys it, deoxys is one of pcs(or i think it is) fastest sweepers without any stat ups.

mixdra............so umm yea........whos gyrados?. I myself prefer hp electric over draco metor but thats just me. with max speed you are tied with adamant choice scarf heracross heracross which is the new threat here on pc with garchomp being uber and all. if you are not too worried about speed you could invest some of those evs in hp or sp atk<-----prefered with crippled bulky waters hp electric would have no problems(except with milotic) if for some reason you cant rely on blissey. after one dd your atk in increases to 475.5 with a +atk nature, with hp evs you can pull off maybe two dds which with scope lens is pretty sweet.

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Yeah, SkarmBliss is outdated. Very easy to beat.

Most importantly, the lineup you suggested is VERY Weavile weak.

Scope Lens is a hax item, and HP electric is pretty outdated. Along with a wall, he'll need a more dedicated sweeper.
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Yeah, SkarmBliss is outdated. Very easy to beat.

Most importantly, the lineup you suggested is VERY Weavile weak.

Scope Lens is a hax item, and HP electric is pretty outdated. Along with a wall, he'll need a more dedicated sweeper.
i will agree. a weavile counter could be switched in for kingdra(who has no real purpose)

heracross is a decent replacement as it outspeeds weavile packs pursuit and only fears gliscor as a true threat.


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Hasty Nature
Static
212 Spd, 252 Atk, 44 Sp Atk

Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
HP Grass/HP Ice

Explosion

[b]Meh, Electrode needs more attack EVs to make Explosion deadly to the opponent (50 Base isn't all that impressive to begin with). 212 Spd is all he needs to outspeed Hera even with Choice Scarf.

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Calm Nature
Natural Cure
252 Def, 216 Sp Def, 40 HP

Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam/Thunderwave/Toxic
Aromatherapy


Blissey is a wall, not a sweeper.

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Modest(-Atk,+SpA)
Speed Boost
252 SpA/252 SpD/6 HP

Bug Buzz
Air Slash
Protect/HP Ground/HP Ice
Hypnosis

Giga Drain doesn't do anything useful

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Impish (-SpA, +Def)
Overgrow
252 HP, 20 Def, 236 Atk

Substitute
Leech Seed
Earthquake
Wood Hammer

Wood Hammer provides much harder hitting than Seed Bomb, also speed evs are no, and you had 20 more than your meant to anyway

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Swift Swim
252 Sp Atk, 252 Atk, 6 HP
-Waterfall
-Draco Meteor/Dragon Pulse
-Surf/Hydro Pump
-Rain Dance


Dragon Dance Kingdra is made of fail when Swift Swimming Kingdra comes on in, Yes I know 2 water moves, but one is primarily for dropping Blissey
I took out Deoxys because frankly you need a wall. Weezing would do well as you are weak to fighters in general.

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-Flamethrower/Fire Blast
-Thunderbolt
-Will o Wisp
-Pain Split/Rest

Rest abuse with Blissey's Aromatherapy could work, Flamethrower/Fire Blast takes care of Heracross and Lucario, while Thunderbolt hits Gyarados, should he show himself after Electrode is down.

Oh and Sims, Leech Seed with Choice Band isn't a good idea =P
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[COLOR="Navy"]Meh. Blissey spread should be Calm 40 HP / 252 DEF / 216 SP.DEF. ~ Itachi 2008[/COLOR]
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I would think he would be smart enough to omit Leech Seed if I had missed it. I only mentioned Substitute 'cause in one match, I forgot I had it on when I used Choice Band. Got burned. Seriously.
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