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Old June 25th, 2008 (8:08 AM). Edited June 26th, 2008 by Outlawed.
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I worked pretty hard on this one, I have a threat list I'm working on.
Here it is:



Jolteon @ Salac Berry
Nature: Timid
EV's: 252 Spe / 252 SpA / 4 Hp
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power [ICE]
~ Baton Pass
~ Substitute

Works.


Salamence @ Life Orb
Nature: Mild
EV's: 120 Atk / 248 SpA / 140 Spe
~ Fire Blast
~ Draco Meteor
~ Brick Break
~ Roost

This is a Smogon variation. One more speed point to outspeed other similar sets, and OHKO them with Draco Meteor. Covers alot, stands up to Blissey if Lucario is dead and helps Luke finish things off too.


Lucario @ Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 252 Atk / 252 Spe / Hp
~ Swords Dance
~ Close Combat
~ Crunch
~ Extreme Speed

This is my Weavile, Azelf killer. Extreme Speed after a Swords Dance kills them we all know that. Close Combat's massive damage after a boost is deadly if I can get 2 boosts, it's game.


Gliscor @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
EV's: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk
~ Ice Fang
~ Earthquake
~ Stealth Rock
~ Roost

Breloom + Hera counter and setter. This isn't an attacker, it has all those defense EV's for a reason, to live and to do it's work.


Blissey @ Leftovers
Nature: Calm
Ability: Natural Cure
252 Def / 40 Hp / 216 SpD
~ Softboiled
~ Aromatherapy
~ Ice Beam
~ Seismic Toss

Cleric and Special Wall, a lot of SpD EV's to stop Aura sphere from 2HKOing me :p. I had Toxic on this to wear things down, but my team does that anyway.

Starmie @ Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
160 Hp / 132 SpA / 216 Spe
~ Thunder Bolt
~ Surf
~ Rapid Spin
~ Recover

I think I already do well against grounds and waters need more attention, thunder bolt. This is a spinner, not a special attacker, please don't tell me give it more attack. It is a standard Smogon set after all.

Your comments would be appreciated. I do realize I lack a phaser.
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Old June 25th, 2008 (8:20 AM).
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Slamence : On mence, Roost/Crunch/Dragon Claw <Pick one >>Stone Edge.

Jolteon : Choice Scarf Sub on Jolteon.....Awesome XDDD, just use standard


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Timid Nature
252 SPEED / 252 SP.ATT / 6 HP
- Hidden power Ice
- Thunderbolt
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

So you can pass subs to Luke and Mence.

Gliscor : You are gonna have problems with CB Chomp, so you could use Ice Fang >> AA on Gliscor. And go 252 HP / 186 DEF / 72 SPEED to outspeed Timid Magnezone, Jolly T-Tar and Breloom, to stop you from getting HP Iced, Ice Beamed and Sub-Seeded respectively.


Blissey : Garbage bliss is garbage, needs Seismic toss >>either Flamethrower or Toxic or its just set up fodder for MS Heatran, Sub CM Raikou and Sub Petaya Torrent Empoleon etc.
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Old June 25th, 2008 (8:32 AM).
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Changes, done, which berry should I have on it?
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Old June 25th, 2008 (8:59 AM).
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Changes, done, which berry should I have on it?
Salac usually does the job, or you can just use lefties.
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Old June 25th, 2008 (11:40 AM).
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I usually carry leftovers, it gives that extra boost plus Jolteon is pretty fast alone.

Mence is.... iffy. Blissey won't wall you too badly, but it won't do a justice to you :/

The rest seems pretty solid.
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Old June 25th, 2008 (12:16 PM).
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Also, since you're no longer running Flamethrower, drop out the sp.atk EVs and go 252Def/216sp.def/40 HP or something for Blissey.

Oh yeah...DON'T go Bold Bliss. You get 2HKO'd by SpecsLuke Aura Sphere at that point.

For Jolteon, use Leftovers instead. You have nothing aside from Lucario and Salamence that needs the Salac boost, and it has Extremespeed for that matter, and Salamence is forced to switch a lot.
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Old June 25th, 2008 (1:07 PM).
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K All changes done. Anyother things any one else would like to add?
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Old June 26th, 2008 (2:33 AM).
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Although you are using toxic on blissey, i still find ice beam and aromathreapy useful as most people will switch to a status absorber or take on the status and switch to they're status remover and just remove the status. and ice beam deals with gengar rather than you needing to switch out.

seeing as this is not a toxic stall team i would advise removing protect as a first priority.

set would be:
seismic toss, ice beam, aroma threapy, soft boiled......cleric i believe?
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Old June 26th, 2008 (7:02 AM).
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Seeing as toxic doesn't affect Gengar, I think adding the move Ice Beam would be a good thing to do. However, wearing down things with Toxic is an important part of my team. For now, Toxic and Protect go.
Thanks. Anything Else?
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Old June 26th, 2008 (10:18 AM).
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As a MY personal choice I like toxic on blissey, becuase well having all your special sweepers poisoned really sucks. I run this instead of armotherapy, I'll live with the status also it interupts the flow of battle, good for your oppent, bad for you.
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No, what's good for your opponent is to have half your team statusized. Paralyzed. Even your main sweeper fast asleep. Not using Aromatherapy on Blissey is like going to Brooklyn and NOT using an offensive "Brooklyn" accent like in the Dominoes comercial.
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Old June 27th, 2008 (6:05 AM).
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Good point made by Sims, I really do not want to start setting up and just realize my pokes are infected. Speaking as I have no status absorber, blissey is essential here. I just realized this team isn't Dugtrio, or Weavile weak. My teams always were.
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