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Old June 25th, 2008 (4:14 PM). Edited June 26th, 2008 by Postman.
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Pokemon: Azelf @ Life Orb
Nature: Naive
Ability: Levitate
EV: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed
Moves:
Psychic
Flamethrower
Explosion
Grass Knot

Azelf as lead. Sweep threw Pokemon until I have to explode.
Only threats would be Weaviles or Sucker Punchers.
I can explode on Blisseys who think they can wall me.
Basically Azelf is here to weaken their team.


Pokemon: Gliscor @ Left Overs
Nature: Impish
Ability: Hyper Cutter
EV: 252 HP, 252 Defense
Moves:
Roost
Baton Pass
Sword Dance
Earthquake

My Physical Wall and Baton Passer.
Its mostly for passing to my Bulky Machamp.
Switch in on a Fighting Type or a Earthquake.
Set up and Baton Pass to Machamp.

Pokemon: Machamp @ Left Overs
Nature: Impish
Ability: No Guard
EV: 252 HP / 16 ATT / 236 DEF / 4 SPEED
Moves:
Dynamic Punch
Stone Edge/ Ice Punch
Rest
Sleep Talk

With this set I can hit almost every pokemon for neutral damage.
A STAB Dynamic Punch after a Sword Dance is a deadly move.
It was already a powerful move that makes the target confused.
I was thinking Earthquake instead of Stone Edge
But I get completely walled by Gyarados and it can set up on me.


Pokemon: Vaporeon @ Left Overs
Nature: Bold
Ability: Water Absorb
EV: 252 HP, 252 Defense
Moves:
Wish
Roar
HP [Electric]
Surf

My Surfing Toxic Staller that heals.
Vaporeon is one of my favorite Pokemon.
It can absorb water and Ice attacks aimed at Gliscor

Pokemon: Dugtrio @ Choice Band
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Arena Trap
EV: 252 Speed, 252 Attack
Moves:
Sucker Punch
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Aerial Ace

My revenge killer. Not much can out speed this.
I just gotta watch out for Weavile again.

Pokemon: Heatran @ Choice Specs
Nature: Modest
Ability: Flash Fire
EV: 252 HP, 252 Special Attack
Moves:
Flame Thrower
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse
Explosion

I don't think Heatran should have Speed EVs =/
I like Pokemon on the more bulky side.
So with HP evs and Special attack, It will be doing massive damage while taking little damage.
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Old June 26th, 2008 (6:54 AM).
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I personally hate Azelf leads. Zapdos, Ninjask, Weavile, and Tyranitar ruin it for you, and even Bronzong if you don't carry Flamethrower. By the way, carry Flamethrower. It will get rid of those steel types that try to wall you.

Oh, and you do realize that a Pokemon can have up to 508 useable EVs, not 504?
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Old June 26th, 2008 (7:24 AM). Edited June 26th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Thunderbolt is a sub par move on Azelf. The only thing you hit harder is like Gyarados and Tokekiss, so its pretty moot. Use Flamethrower to hit steels who lols at you otherwise. Also leading with a Psychic pokemon this gen i feel is foolish, as mentioned above, if they have a weavile or Tar lead, you start the match at automatic deficit due to Pursuit. Which is why i use U-Turn >>Grass Knot on that Azelf set, to scout your counter. Lead with something else.

Speaking of weavile, it gives your team grief especially SD versions, i learnt the other day that Machamp DOES NOT like boosted Ice Punches, go with a more sturdy set up of : - 252 HP / 16 ATT / 236 DEF / 4 SPEED @Impish.

This is yet ANOTHER team that i can say "If Gyarados gets in a Dragon Dance, it 6-0s you" You have an awesome Gyara counter there in vappy but arnt utilizing it, use Hidden power Electric >>Toxic or protect, Roar can also be used here. Seeing as you lack a PHazer, which makes it easy for stuff to stat up on you.


Heatran NEEDS speed evs, more specifically 216 speed evs thus beating Adamant Breloom and Jolly Tyranitar.

It also may be helpful if you told us what item your heatran has, so im assuming its specs.
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Old June 26th, 2008 (7:40 AM).
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Pokemon: Machamp @ Left Overs
Nature: Adamant
Ability: No Guard
EV: 252 HP, 252 Attack
Moves:
Dynamic Punch
Stone Edge/ Ice Punch
Rest
Sleep Talk

With this set I can hit almost every pokemon for neutral damage.
A STAB Dynamic Punch after a Sword Dance is a deadly move.
It was already a powerful move that makes the target confused.
I was thinking Earthquake instead of Stone Edge
But I get completely walled by Gyarados and it can set up on me.
So Stone Edge is the next option but I hate its low accuracy
If your Machamp has No Guard, Stone Edge won't miss. Just pointing that out, considering it is really the best choice. I wouldn't go with EQ either way- Fighting/Ground has bad coverage.
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Old June 26th, 2008 (1:37 PM).
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My Azelf has Flamethrower, I just wanted to see what you would say for Thunderbolt :D
I changed Machamps EVs and Natures to the one given by D_A
Alot of people said I should put HP Electric on Vaporeon, so I will :)
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Old June 26th, 2008 (1:48 PM).
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In my opinion, seeing as I've battled with Azelf leads a ton over my offensive time. Flamethrower isn't packing enough oomph if you ask me, try out Fire Blast, much more burns to things like Ttar that could switch in. 30% burn rate is pretty darn nice. ;D I say pack Fire Blast and gut it. Better results in my opinion. (85% is not that bad for accuracy either)
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