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Old June 28th, 2008 (11:19 PM).
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Okay so in the hands of a skilled player this team can't be beat.

Jynx (F) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Oblivious
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Beam
- Lovely Kiss
- Substitute

One of the best leads really.

Metagross @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Def / 100 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash

Monster Mash.

Salamence (M) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 88 HP / 252 Atk / 140 Spd / 28 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

He's cute.

Magneton @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Magnet Pull
EVs: 100 HP / 188 Spd / 220 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Toxic

Sup Skarms, wanna go?

Tyranitar (M) @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rock Slide

You don't want it.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** ...
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 240 HP / 92 Def / 176 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Baton Pass
- Recover
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance

II tuff.

Yes this is RSE. You all ignored my thread last time. I had almost 30 views but seriously you can't ignore this team. Please help me out I think it's really good but if you have a way to beat it without lucky criticals, please tell me.

WANNA? LOSE!
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Old June 30th, 2008 (2:17 AM). Edited June 30th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Please help me out I think it's really good but if you have a way to beat it without lucky criticals, please tell me.

WANNA? LOSE!
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252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Adamant Nature
- Taunt
- Dragon Dance
- Rock Slide
- Earthquake

*Gets Shot*


But yeah, you may want to invest something in that area, as most Tyranitar sets played well are problematic for you, as is Gyarados.


My knowledge of advance is lacking, so please excuse that XD.

Anyways i was thinking a bulky ground would go nicely here @ Hidden power Rock to beat the aforementioned Tar and Dos, you should be able to beat boah with Meta and Salamence (Unless it uses/d Ice Beam in advance, as i know thats taken the place of T-Bolt in D/P for the most part, so yeah). Although i wouldnt know what to replace, as this team has a nice synergy to it...


Also from what i remember, doesnt Hidden power Fighting Celebi make a nice T-Tar counter ? As in beats all those without HP Bug and Crunch. You COULD remove shadow ball for HP Fighting for more insurance.
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Old June 30th, 2008 (5:33 AM).
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WANNA? LOSE!
It doesn't have an exclamation mark....
I fear Jynx isnt achieving much, as there is a lack of SpAttackers to pass to...
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Old June 30th, 2008 (12:09 PM).
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I'm not really worried about Gyarados as I'll get off an SD on the switch and then BP a +1 attack to Mence before he can Taunt anything. Same thing vs Tar I'll just pass to something. It's really not an issue if you are a smart battler. Duggy is really the only thing that is slightly problematic to this team. Ice Beam is extremely valuable on Tar.

It has an exclamation point because I wanted it to.

You're right, Jynx doesn't achieve anything on this team at all...
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Anything that can outrun your Jynx will put it to a permanent rest before you can even think about kissing them. If you are going to use an ice-type, use one that's not a psychic-type. You gain nothing at all by having that extra type other than three extra weaknesses on top of the three ice weaknesses that apply to Jynx.
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I'm not really worried about Gyarados as I'll get off an SD on the switch and then BP a +1 attack to Mence before he can Taunt anything. Same thing vs Tar I'll just pass to something. It's really not an issue if you are a smart battler. Duggy is really the only thing that is slightly problematic to this team. Ice Beam is extremely valuable on Tar.

It has an exclamation point because I wanted it to.

You're right, Jynx doesn't achieve anything on this team at all...
He'll Intimidate, so you'll be passing nothing...

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Old June 30th, 2008 (8:51 PM).
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Anything that can outrun your Jynx will put it to a permanent rest before you can even think about kissing them. If you are going to use an ice-type, use one that's not a psychic-type. You gain nothing at all by having that extra type other than three extra weaknesses on top of the three ice weaknesses that apply to Jynx.
Umm you really don't see why Jynx works on this team. Go try it and try not to play horribly and you'll see this team is good.

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He'll Intimidate, so you'll be passing nothing...

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SD is +2 attack. He Intimidates once and it lowers it by one level not two.
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Umm you really don't see why Jynx works on this team. Go try it and try not to play horribly and you'll see this team is good.
This is a good team, but you're really wasting a spot with Jynx. Alot of leads are faster than Jynx. I didn't notice at first that this is a 3rd Gen. I was just recommending that you put a bit of effort into a different Pokemon that doesn't have 6 weaknesses and such a mediocre defense. I understand that that is what substitute is for, but that will only work in some cases. Heracross could easily break the sub in one hit.
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Heracross,gyradose(with d dance) Speedy Tyranitar are some very common pokemon your going to have trouble with.

Like everyones been saying about jynx my opinion is the same.

After Jynx and celebi are gone. A pokemon your going to have major trouble wtih is Wobboffet you move sets are somewhat predictable so its like wobb's dream to switch into sal or tyran.

Mix ape could shred through this team also.

All those pokemon I mentioned are all far OU which makes them ever so common.

One good thing about this team is that when blissey comes in say goodbye to it lol
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Heracross,gyradose(with d dance) Speedy Tyranitar are some very common pokemon your going to have trouble with.

Like everyones been saying about jynx my opinion is the same.

After Jynx and celebi are gone. A pokemon your going to have major trouble wtih is Wobboffet you move sets are somewhat predictable so its like wobb's dream to switch into sal or tyran.

Mix ape could shred through this team also.

All those pokemon I mentioned are all far OU which makes them ever so common.

One good thing about this team is that when blissey comes in say goodbye to it lol
Yes, awesome that you took the time to read the thread, in which you will discover that it is indeed 3RD GEN. Where Infernape is non-existent, and wobby is uber =/
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Well he didnt tell me that this team was based off of the 3rd gen
And wobb isnt Uber anymore. LOOK it up :D
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Well he didnt tell me that this team was based off of the 3rd gen
And wobb isnt Uber anymore. LOOK it up :D
It should be kinda obvious due to the magneton and HP Flying on mence.

No wobby is uber, this is 3rd gen. Where wobby IS and always has been uber.

Also dont reply to this as we're cluttering his thread up.
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Well he didnt tell me that this team was based off of the 3rd gen
And wobb isnt Uber anymore. LOOK it up :D
Wobb is still uber in the 3rd Gen, and while it could be hard to notice, he did say that his team was 3rd Gen.
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THIS TEAM IS MIXAPE WEAK (don't take that seriously =p)

The glaring weakness that popped out at me was Dugtrio. It generally seems to give your team a lot of problems. Also looks like you'll kind of have to predict around Salamence and Metagross who have potential to really do some damage. This team is geared more towards offense it seems so that's to be expected.
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Old July 1st, 2008 (9:33 PM).
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You guys are crazy.

Jynx is amazing, Wobbuffet is uber, I mentioned it was 3rd gen in my first post and I already mentioned my Dugtrio weak but when you are amazing like me Dugtrio is lol.
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Heracross,gyradose(with d dance) Speedy Tyranitar are some very common pokemon your going to have trouble with.

Like everyones been saying about jynx my opinion is the same.

After Jynx and celebi are gone. A pokemon your going to have major trouble wtih is Wobboffet you move sets are somewhat predictable so its like wobb's dream to switch into sal or tyran.

Mix ape could shred through this team also.

All those pokemon I mentioned are all far OU which makes them ever so common.

One good thing about this team is that when blissey comes in say goodbye to it lol
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Well he didnt tell me that this team was based off of the 3rd gen
And wobb isnt Uber anymore. LOOK it up :D
Actually, he did. He stated at the end that it was RSE:

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Okay, this is what you can do for Wobby-
Make his speed REALLY HIGH, and then use the item that makes the slower attack first then use Counterattack (or counter, but I feel like using fanceh words so THERE.). or make her speed high. Boy or girl, it should work, then the 3rd gen Wobby won't look so uber. Even though we all know even DP wobby is uber. :D
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Okay, this is what you can do for Wobby-
Make his speed REALLY HIGH, and then use the item that makes the slower attack first then use Counterattack (or counter, but I feel like using fanceh words so THERE.). or make her speed high. Boy or girl, it should work, then the 3rd gen Wobby won't look so uber. Even though we all know even DP wobby is uber. :D
For some screwed-up reason, Wobby is no longer an uber in the 4th Gen. I know it is justified but I do not understand it. Wobby IS uber in the 3rd Gen, regardless of the moveset. (It can only learn 5 moves, IIRC.)
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wobbuffet has 7 moves...


btw if this team is unbeatable, why does it need a rate?

and jynx is not a good lead. it doesnt have great speed and survivability. the only thing good about it is, the element of surprise. really it can be killed easily with common leads.
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wobbuffet has 7 moves...


btw if this team is unbeatable, why does it need a rate?

and jynx is not a good lead. it doesnt have great speed and survivability. the only thing good about it is, the element of surprise. really it can be killed easily with common leads.
I can see it leading well. He has great switch-in's to play around Jynx if it is not able to stay
in and handle itself. Salamence covers the fire and bug hits, Metagross helps with the rest other
than dark. The only thing I do not like about Jynx is the pursuit pounding it would get.
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I can see it leading well. He has great switch-in's to play around Jynx if it is not able to stay
in and handle itself. Salamence covers the fire and bug hits, Metagross helps with the rest other
than dark. The only thing I do not like about Jynx is the pursuit pounding it would get.
Pursuit in 3rd gen was not nearly as common as it is in D/P, as it was Special and many of the things that are weak to Pursuit had at least decent SpD. So it is not absolutely needed to worry about Pursuit. I also don't see the use of Ice Beam on your DDTar. Sure, it hits Claydol but it has 0 SpA EVs and an Adamant nature, making it very weak, especially against Claydol's 120 Base SpD. HP Bug is better for hitting Celebi's 4x Bug weakness while also hitting Claydol harder.
Here are some calculations:
Ice Beam from Adamant TTar with 203 SpA (0 SpA EVs) does this to 324 HP/276 SpD Claydol (If I did it right) :
Damage: 103 - 121

Now let's see what HP Bug does before a single DD to the same Claydol with 304 Def and 324 HP (252 HP and 112 Def EVs with Relaxed nature) :
Damage: 137 - 161
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btw if this team is unbeatable, why does it need a rate?

and jynx is not a good lead. it doesnt have great speed and survivability. the only thing good about it is, the element of surprise. really it can be killed easily with common leads.
I posted it because I knew some silly person would try to fix it even though there is really nothing wrong with it.

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I also don't see the use of Ice Beam on your DDTar.
It OHKO's Flygon and 2HKO's Donphan.
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