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Old July 4th, 2008 (8:01 PM). Edited July 4th, 2008 by JKLAZ.
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Staraptor
HP:160
A:152
D:85
SA:63
SD:72
S:130

Aerial Ace
Fly
Close Combat
Brave Bird

Flareon
HP:133
A:142
D:65
SA:116
SD:131
S:77

Fire Fang
Last Resort
Fire Blast
Flamethrower

Torterra
HP:161
A:124
D:134
SA:100
SD:95
S:77

SolarBeam
Earthquake
Giga Drain
Wood Hammer

Luxray
HP:149
A:125
D:99
SA:114
SD:99
S:97

Shock Wave
Hyper Beam
Thunder Fang
Thunder

Azelf
HP:137
A:130
D:97
SA:132
SD:68
S:124

Confusion
Uproar
Future Sight
Nasty Plot
(soon to know shadow ball, once i get another tm)

Dialga
HP:169
A:139
D:137
SA:159
SD:119
S:90

Metal Claw
Ancient Power
Dragon Claw
Roar of Time

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So basically, thats my team. Im thinking of training torterra to level 57 to learn leaf storm, and luxray to 56 for discharge. Otherwise, i have no ideas unless noted (azelf shadow ball). My guys are all level 50, so do you think im ready for the elite 4 now, and find my place in the hall of fame?
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Old July 5th, 2008 (3:07 AM).
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ewll any team can beat elite 4 witha little traingin, so just get a few levels up on your pokes and the right pokemon on each elite since they have a type, which you can counter
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Old July 5th, 2008 (3:15 AM).
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I always used to beat the E4 with only one lvl 60 and a legendary,the rest are just low levels(20-30)

revives and max revives ftw!...Good times
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Old July 5th, 2008 (1:59 PM).
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Before the Elite 4 I barely ever spent time training...
I beat them easily with Pokemon in the mid-50's.
Luxray is a bit better in the attack stat, (unless you amplified the S.Atk stat with EVs.)
than in the S.Atk stat, so his his Spark/Thunder Fang will do you fine.
Leaf Storm isn't that great of a move, yes, you could ensure a KO on the last of the trainers pokemon, but it isn't needed, exactly.
You may want to raise them a one or two levels, at victory road, if you want to be safe. ^_^
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Old July 5th, 2008 (3:22 PM).
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I dont even know what ev training is (i mean ive heard of it)

but as of now im training torterra to lv 57, and a couple others to about 53, or 54
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Old July 5th, 2008 (4:52 PM).
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it will be a synch for yah if they are level.60.
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Old July 5th, 2008 (6:42 PM).
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Alright heres my team as of right this second. I tried to beat the E4 with this sqaud, and i couldnt get past vespiqueen. The first 5 guys were either 1 or 2 hit kills, but i couldnt get past its healing. My thunder went away in 5(because of the pressure)turns and 3 of them missed, so i couldnt do that. And each time i would get it down with shock wave or thunder fang the gym leader would heal it or it would heal itself. Also it would use defend order, so its defence would rise. I seriously need tips on defeating vespiqueen.

Staraptor
Lv:50
HP:160
A:152
D:85
SA:63
SD:72
S:130

Aerial Ace
Fly
Close Combat
Brave Bird

Flareon
Lv:51
HP:135
A:145
D:66
SA:118
SD:133
S:78

Fire Fang
Last Resort
Fire Blast
Flamethrower

Torterra
Lv:57
HP:183
A:144
D:155
SA:113
SD:107
S:89

Leaf Storm
Earthquake
Giga Drain
Wood Hammer

Luxray
Lv:50
HP:149
A:125
D:99
SA:114
SD:99
S:97

Shock Wave
Hyper Beam
Thunder Fang
Thunder

Azelf
Lv:50
HP:137
A:130
D:97
SA:132
SD:68
S:124

Confusion
Uproar
Future Sight
Shadow Ball

Dialga
Lv:50
HP:169
A:139
D:137
SA:159
SD:119
S:90

Dragon Pulse
Ancient Power
Dragon Claw
Roar of Time
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Old July 5th, 2008 (7:06 PM).
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I would level up my Pokemon a bit more, then use Flareon or Staraptor against Vespiquen.
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Old July 5th, 2008 (7:45 PM).
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Use Brave Bird on Vespiqueen, you should have no problem.
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Old July 5th, 2008 (9:10 PM).
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I would ariel ace since you can't miss with it's effect, and you will have no problem.
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Old July 5th, 2008 (9:19 PM).
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The elite four is quite easy, though you might have trouble with Lucian. On vespiquen, just use brave bird.
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you need a water type
really helps with 2 and 3
1 is easily won with staraptor
4 is tricky but can be won with staraptor and luxray
the ast one make sure you have plenty of revives and hyper potions

i know becuase i beat it with empoleon, luxray, staraptor. mid 50s staraptor hit 62 when i finished
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Old July 6th, 2008 (9:55 AM). Edited July 6th, 2008 by JKLAZ.
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Well i go in with 40 revives, 30 super potions, 30 hyper potions, 30 full heals, and 15 of each status healer so i should be fine lol


ill update (edit this post) after i try to beat vespiqueen with brave bird

Probably the biggest risk i have ever taken in a pokemon game. I wouldnt say the biggest mistake, but i had to do it. I still had tons of revives and potions, but i was on my last guy. Im on cynthia (Never thinking i would get this far) and garchomp, spiritbomb, and milotic are dead. Lucario comes and kills my Dialga. Im stuck only with a half heath (just revived) Torterra level 59. I decide that instead of reviving one of my people, i should just take a chance and use earthquake. Lucario attacks with aura sphere or something, and i die.

Looking back, i would have used a hyper potion on Torterra, and then tried to live through it. Looks like i have to do that all over again
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Old July 6th, 2008 (2:01 PM).
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you need a water type
really helps with 2 and 3
1 is easily won with staraptor
4 is tricky but can be won with staraptor and luxray
the ast one make sure you have plenty of revives and hyper potions

i know becuase i beat it with empoleon, luxray, staraptor. mid 50s staraptor hit 62 when i finished
I wouldn't say you NEED one...water is neutral to the first two on the second fight, grass actually is the best bet there. On the second one, he only has 2 fire types, one of which knows Thunderpunch.
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Old July 6th, 2008 (2:10 PM).
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-Staraptor cleans up Aaron
-Use Torterra against Bertha
-Grab a Water-type for Flint (it beats three of his Pokemon)
-For Lucian, you should try and use a Dark type, but brute strength always works
-Now for Cynthia, just get the right pairings and you'll do fine
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Old July 6th, 2008 (2:12 PM).
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Here is the best combo for you:

Azelf

Lvl 55+

Nasty Plot
Flamethrower/Fire Blast (im not sure if Azelf can learn Flamethrower)
Extrasensory
Uproar (or any Special-Move TM, just not fire or psychic)

Here is what you do:
On most of e4, you can use two or so nasty plots before your HP is down to less than half, then, use the required special move, extrasensory, fireblast/flamethrower, or the other one (if you didnt replace Uproar)

you will beat them in a synch.
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Old July 6th, 2008 (3:14 PM).
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I got Torterra up to 60, im gonna try to get the rest to 55. Most are 51 or 52 right now.
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Old July 6th, 2008 (5:19 PM).
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I'd say at least Lvl. 55 before you can even think about defeating Cynthia.
Be sure to take plenty of healing items before heading into battle.
And save the game before heading into the battles. If all fails, shut off the game, and you won't lose cash.
Now that, and pretty much what everyone else says, and you'l do fine.
 

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