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Old July 5th, 2008 (9:24 PM).
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I apologize for posting two threads, but there were some mistakes in the first. Please disregard it.

Ok. I'm a beginner at pokemon, so I know this team probably sucks. So I want to know what my weaknesses are, and how I can improve it.

My team:



Ninjask @ Insect Plate
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 128 SPD/ 128 HP
Aerial Ace
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
X-Scissor

Aerial Ace is there for STAB. Swords dance is for... raising attack, and for baton passing. X-Scissor is also there for STAB.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold nature
Ev's: 252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 4 SDEF
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

Serebii :embarrass

Tyranitar
@ Leftovers
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 76 HP/ 180 SPD
Earthquake
Crunch
Rock Polish
Ice Fang

Pretty self explanatory.

Blaziken @ Flame Plate
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 252 SPD/ 4 HP
Earthquake
Flare Blitz/ Blaze Kick(indecisive)
Sky Uppercut
Quick Attack/ Brave Bird(indecisive)

Physical sweeper.

Cresselia @ Icicle Plate
Timid nature(it's pretty hard to get two of these)
Ev's: 252 SATK/ 252 HP/ 4 SDEF
Ice Beam
Psychic
Moonlight
Lunar Dance

Suggestions to replace Icicle plate please? :P
Anyway, this one's pretty self explanatory.

And a Ratatta with focus sash endeavor and quick attack.


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Ninjask @ Leftovers / <Insert Pinch berry> /Nothing
Jolly Nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 176 hp / 80 speed

Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
X-Scissor /Aerial Ace

Yeah

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm nature
Ev's: 252 DEF / 176 SP.DEF/ 80 SP.ATT
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam / Flamethrower
Softboiled
Thunder Wave / Toxic

I dont like Aromatherapy this gen anymore, its a liability. If you make cress your status absorber with rest-talk, you wont need it. You also need more sp.def this gen.


Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold nature
Ev's: 252 HP / 108 DEF / 148 SP.DEF
Ice Beam
Psychic
Sleep Talk
Rest


Moonlight and Sandstorm is not the smartest thing is it lol

And a Ratatta with focus sash endeavor and quick attack.

NO !

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Fear rattata on a team with Sandstorm.....Yeah. In fact fear rattata in general =/

I think a bulky water would help >> Fail rattata. Try vaporeon, as you are Gyarados weak. It also helps vs weavile taking its stab ice.
However if you can get hold of one HP Electric Suicune would be much better.

But anyways, vappy..

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188 HP / 252 DEF / 70 SP.DEF
Bold Nature
- Hidden power Electric
- Surf
- Wish
- Ice Beam / Protect / Roar.

I would say Swords Dance Gliscor >> T-Tar, you die to heracross/Lucario and foe t-tar.

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252 HP / 142 DEF / 116 SPEED
Jolly nature
Trait : Hyper Cutter
- Swords Dance
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace

You have cress and bliss for drgons, so AA should work for hera etc.


As for Blaziken, its outclassed by ape tbh. You could try passing SD's and Speed to a Mixape, to cause some havoc.

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24 ATT / 252 SP.ATT / 232 SPEED
Naive Nature
- Close Combat
- nasty Plot / Hidden power ice
- Flamethrower / Fire Blast
- Grass Knot.

So something like

Jask/Ape/Cress/Bliss/Vappy or Cune / Gliscor.
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Old July 6th, 2008 (5:55 AM).
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Ninjask @ Leftovers
Jolly nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 128 SPD/ 128 HP
Sunstitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
X-Scissor or Protect

Aerial Ace is there for STAB. Swords dance is for... raising attack, and for baton passing. X-Scissor is also there for STAB. And exactly how long do you expect this thing to last? You can use this set or you can use a passing set which works more effectively. Substitute, protect, rinse and repeat until you have maximum speed. If one turn your sub is up and it isnt destroyed? Use SD. THen pass to a teammate.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm nature
Ev's: 252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 4 SDEF
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave / Toxic

Serebii :embarrass You can use the serebii set or use toxic, its a preference really, I run toxic over twave.

Tyranitar
@ Leftovers
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 76 HP/ 180 SPD
Earthquake
Crunch
Rock Polish
Ice Fang

Pretty self explanatory. Good job.

Blaziken @ Expert Belt / Life Orb / Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 252 SPD/ 4 HP
Earthquake
Flare Blitz/ Blaze Kick(indecisive)
Sky Uppercut
Quick Attack/ Brave Bird(indecisive) / Thunderpunch

Physical sweeper.If you go with Flare Blitz, dont go BB. I fyou go with BB, go with Blaze Kick.

Cresselia @ Icicle Plate
Timid nature(it's pretty hard to get two of these)
Ev's: 252 SATK/ 252 HP/ 4 SDEF
Ice Beam
Psychic
Rest
Sleep Talk
Suggestions to replace Icicle plate please? :P
Anyway, this one's pretty self explanatory. Moonlight is going to be reduced thx to Mr. Tyrant so try restalk over it.

And a Ratatta with focus sash endeavor and quick attack.Dont. It simply doesnt work because it gets ruined by: Stealth Rock, Spikes, Toxic SPikes, Hail, and Samdstorm. Funny how you also have Ttar with you...

Comments in bold! Better then my first team...or second...you might want a spiker. A special Sweeper would be nice...say Azelf or Gengar or Infernape over Blaziken.

Azelf @ Leftovers
Modest
252speed/252spA/6hp
Nasty Plot
Phychic
Grass Knot
Flamethrower

Infernape D_A has... Good Luck dude.
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Old July 6th, 2008 (12:04 PM). Edited July 6th, 2008 by MayorPork.
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I forgot about sandstorm O_O Ratata was there for filler, I hadn't decided on my 6th. I'll probably go with Vaporeon.
Well thanks for the tips. But do you think it would be good to teach blaziken/ape sunny day? So when it runs out I could use moonlight more effectively, and for all the other uses of sunny day? It's just considering that Ty has sandstream, and i don't want to replace him after fighting magikarp man so many times.
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Or I may add a skarmory with whirlwind and stealth rock. What do you guys think?
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I forgot about sandstorm O_O
Well thanks for the tips. But do you think it would be good to teach blaziken/ape sunny day?
Nope. The boost to a single move isnt worth relinquishing an entire moveslot for. Weather should really benefit the entire team, having two different kinds are only going to get in the way.
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Old July 6th, 2008 (12:13 PM).
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Ok, so sunny day is an out. Should I just replace tyrannitar, or change the setup of my team? I'm a little reluctant to replace ty though since I spent so much EV training it, but if it's what has to be done...
Edit: Or what weather effect would benefit my team and remove sandstorm?
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I apologize for posting two threads, but there were some mistakes in the first. Please disregard it.

Ok. I'm a beginner at pokemon, so I know this team probably sucks. So I want to know what my weaknesses are, and how I can improve it.

My team:



Ninjask @ Insect Plate Lefties
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 128 SPD/ 128 HP
Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
X-Scissor

Aerial Ace is there for STAB. Swords dance is for... raising attack, and for baton passing. X-Scissor is also there for STAB.

Insect plate is not worth it, seeing as you get a minor boost, you could use leftovers to resore some damage from sub.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold nature
Ev's: 252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 4 SDEF
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

Fine with me.

Serebii :embarrass

Tyranitar
@ Leftovers
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 76 HP/ 180 SPD
Earthquake
Crunch
Rock Polish
Ice Fang

Pretty self explanatory.

Go Cb tar please. It hurts Quite a few walls and you have ninjask.

Blaziken @ Life orb
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 252 SPD/ 4 HP
Earthquake
Flare Blitz/ Blaze Kick(indecisive)
Sky Uppercut
Quick Attack/ Brave Bird(indecisive)

Physical sweeper.

DOn't now much about it.

Cresselia @ Icicle Plate Leftovers
Timid nature(it's pretty hard to get two of these)
Ev's: 252 SATK/ 252 HP/ 4 SDEF
Ice Beam
Charge beam
Moonlight Rest
Lunar Dance Sleep talk

Suggestions to replace Icicle plate please? :P Leftovers! You want your wall to recover. Besides, plates suck even on sweepers. Trust me, 1.2 boost is not that swell to boost 1 move
Anyway, this one's pretty self explanatory.

And a Ratatta with focus sash endeavor and quick attack.

FEAR RATATTA IS NOVELTY, IT SHOULD NOT BE USED REALLY ON A COMPETITIVE TEAM, LET ALONE A TEAM WITH SANDSTORM!

Go

Starmie:@ Lefties
252 spatt, 252 spd, 6 hp
Nature: Modest/ Timid
Trait: Natural cure

Ice beam
Surf
Thunderbolt
Rapid spin




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Ok, so sunny day is an out. Should I just replace tyrannitar, or change the setup of my team? I'm a little reluctant to replace ty though since I spent so much EV training it, but if it's what has to be done...
Edit: Or what weather effect would benefit my team and remove sandstorm?
There is really no point because you just waste a turn, plus with hippowdon, Tyranitar and abomasnow, sunny day and rain dance are not that great.
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I apologize for posting two threads, but there were some mistakes in the first. Please disregard it.

Ok. I'm a beginner at pokemon, so I know this team probably sucks. So I want to know what my weaknesses are, and how I can improve it.

My team:



Ninjask @ Insect Plate
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 128 SPD/ 128 HP
Aerial Ace
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
X-Scissor

This thing will never survive. The spread isn't too nice either. Go with the following spread:

Ninjask @ Leftovers/Focus Sash
Jolly
252 HP, 252 Spe, 6 Att
Substitute
Protect/X-scissor
Baton Pass
Swords Dance

Blissey @ Leftovers
Bold nature
Ev's: 252 HP/ 252 DEF/ 4 SDEF
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy/Ice Beam
Softboiled
Thunder Wave/Toxic

Serebii :embarrass

Good, but consider Toxic and Ice Beam on there.

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 76 HP/ 180 SPD
Earthquake
Crunch
Rock Polish
Ice Fang

Meh, I'd like to see the CBTar set here. Does a lot of good as a sweeper.

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 Att, 40 HP, 216 Spe
Crunch
Pursuit
Earthquake
Stone Edge

Blaziken @ Life Orb/Expert Belt
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 252 SPD/ 4 HP
Earthquake/Thunderpunch
Flare Blitz/ Blaze Kick(indecisive)
Sky Uppercut
Quick Attack/ Brave Bird(indecisive)

Don't use EQ and fighting attacks. Too similar of coverage.


Cresselia @ Icicle Plate Leftovers
Timid nature(it's pretty hard to get two of these) Bold
Ev's: 252 SATK/ 252 HP/ 4 SDEF
Ice Beam
Psychic
Moonlight
Lunar Dance


I dislike this whole set entirely. Use the following:

Cresselia @ Leftovers
Bold
252 Def, 20 HP, 236 SpA
Charge Beam
Ice Beam
Rest
Sleep Talk

And a Ratatta with focus sash endeavor and quick attack.

FEAR is metagame weak with Sandstorm and Hail.


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I apologize for posting two threads, but there were some mistakes in the first. Please disregard it.

Ok. I'm a beginner at pokemon, so I know this team probably sucks. So I want to know what my weaknesses are, and how I can improve it.

My team:



Ninjask @ Insect Plate
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 80 Speed/176 HP
Aerial Ace/Substitute
Swords Dance
Baton Pass
X-Scissor/Substitute

Aerial Ace is there for STAB. Swords dance is for... raising attack, and for baton passing. X-Scissor is also there for STAB.

Hi, my name is Substitute.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Calm
Ev's: 40 HP/252 Def/216 SpD

Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Thunder Wave

Serebii :embarrass

Bold with 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD EVs gets 2HKOed by Specs Aura Sphere from Lucario. These new EVs with Calm nature cut that into a 3HKO and in general means it can keep up with the Special attacking this gen which hit too hard for Bold Bliss. :D

Tyranitar
@ Leftovers
Jolly
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 252 Speed / 4 HP
Earthquake
Crunch
Dragon Dance
Taunt/Stone Edge

Pretty self explanatory.

Hello, my name is Dragon Dance. I boost your Atk and Speed.

Blaziken @ Life Orb
Adamant nature
Ev's: 252 ATK/ 252 SPD/ 4 HP
Thunderpunch
Flare Blitz/ Blaze Kick(indecisive)
Sky Uppercut
Quick Attack/ Brave Bird(indecisive)

Physical sweeper.

Adamant makes it as slow as a Donphan and easily killed by faster things.
EQ and Sky Uppercut provide basically the same type coverage and are poor together.

Cresselia
@ Leftovers
Bold
Ev's: 252 HP/ 168 Def / 88 SpD OR 252 HP/ 108 Def/ 148 SpD
Ice Beam
Psychic
Sleep Talk/Reflect
Rest/Thunder Wave

Suggestions to replace Icicle plate please? :P
Anyway, this one's pretty self explanatory.

I prefer the first EV spread that I created myself for taking physical hits better. :) You can still use the second one for equal defenses though. If you're using Sleep Talk in the 3rd moveslot, go with Rest. If you're using Reflect, use Thunder Wave.
And a Ratatta with focus sash endeavor and quick attack.
OLOL Yes, it works with a T-Tar on the very same team. [/sarcasm]

So please help me out in improving my team! Thanks guys!

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I assume you know that SS and a Focus Sash user on the same team is suicide, unless said Focus Sasher is Lucario or something immune to SS.
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If you read the other posts you would've known I replaced ratata.
Anyway, the tyrannitar is already level 70 and Ev trained, and dragon dance is an egg move. I'm verrrrrrrry reluctant to start over.
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don't be so afraid to start over. It took me only a day to EV train & level up to 50, so it shouldn't take too long to acomplish your goals.
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Lol, you could always replace FEAR with a Phanpy. They can FEAR but they dont take damage from SS.
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Bah, just forget F.E.A.R altogether. Every team is prepared for it. Every team. Even if they lack SandStorm, Stealth Rock, Spikes, or whatever, they can handle it with the upmost care.
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I feel stupid now O_O
Well thanks for the tips. I'll reshape my team now. Just one more question, is Milotic a good wall? Because i just traded my regigigigigigigiigigigigigigas for a feebas O_O
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Well, hate to say it, but you got jipped...

It's ho hum, but there are plenty of people,me included, who would gladly give up a Feebas. That is such a high price.
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I know, I offered my regigigas for feebas any O_O
I don't care though, regiggigiigigigigigig sucks.
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