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Old July 10th, 2008 (5:14 AM). Edited July 10th, 2008 by Sora_8920.
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Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP|216 Def|52 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Stealth Rock
Replaced Mixmence for Swampy.
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Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP|252 Spd|252 SAtk
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Rest
- Sleep Talk Replaced CSRan for STalkRan
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Garchomp (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 6 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance
Replaced CBChomp for SDChomp.
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EVs: 252 HP | 184 Sp.Att | 72 Speed
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam / Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- Recover
- Psychic Hmm... UBARZ#2‼ =D Anyway, this screws stuff. Obviously I won't switch Deoxys-E on pretty much any attack. Replaced sweeper Deoxys-e for Utility counter Deoxys-E. /o\
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Mamoswine (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge GO CB MAMO‼ TBH, something funny occurred on ABYAY's Server when I battled T_S; Mamo outspeed Lucario. Replaced Peck for Ice Fang.
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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 4 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed
- Crunch
- Close Combat
--- Hmm... AA was given to him because I needed something to damage Modchamp. x3
Replaced Scizor for Lucario.
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Old July 10th, 2008 (9:08 AM).
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Salamence (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 120 att / 252 sp.att / 136 speed
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Brick Break
- Fire Blast
- Roost

That is not Mix mence, that is fail mence.
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Heatran (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Earth Power
- Stealth Rock


Scarfed SR ? Whatever works for ya XD

Garchomp (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang


Not without Fire Fang its not uber, its lol'd at by Zong and Skarm.

Needs JOLLY


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Deoxys-e @ Choice Specs
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Ice Beam
- Psycho Boost

WHY ?. *Sigh* Fine, w/e.
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Mamoswine (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge

Peck lol

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Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP/78 Atk/180 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Pursuit
- U-turn
- Double Hit / Brick break
- Iron head

Umm, Iron head owns Hera and Breloom so garbage AA isnt needed. You can also at least DO something to Weez and Gliscor.

Brick break is for Heatran, Magnezone or Double hit can be used to Combat Breloom, Ninjask, Jolteon and other sub passers.

Comments in bold.

Couldn't you make deoxys a utility counter ? For Ape, Gyara.

[email protected] / Life Orb
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Sp.Att / 72 Speed
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam / Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- Recover

Im also not too big on how this team cant take status.


Maybe Sleep Talk >> Stealth Rock on Heatran so you can switch that into Sleep moves.
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Old July 10th, 2008 (9:16 AM).
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Comments in bold.

Couldn't you make deoxys a utility counter ? For Ape, Gyara.

[email protected] / Life Orb
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Sp.Att / 72 Speed
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam / Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- Recover

Im also not too big on how this team cant take status.


Maybe Sleep Talk >> Stealth Rock on Heatran so you can switch that into Sleep moves.
Hmm... I made some changes to my team, I'll edit my post though. /o\
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Old July 10th, 2008 (9:57 AM).
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6 choice items?
Thats a bit of an OD dude ;)
D_A's pointed out the majority, although you could really do with something other than sweepers.
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Old July 10th, 2008 (10:39 AM). Edited July 10th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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[B]Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP | 240 SP.DEF | 16 SP.ATT
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Rest
- Sleep Talk


[B]Garchomp (M) @ Life Orb / yache Berry
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 6 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- DRAGON CLAW
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance

Get stone edge out your mind, its garbage on garchomp, especially when you drop its dragon move for it =/


JOLLY PLZZ




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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 4 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed
- Crunch
- Close Combat


Adamant



Yeah, comments in bold.#

Lemonade, whats is all that about ? XD
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Old July 10th, 2008 (11:58 AM).
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Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP|216 Def|52 SAtk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Hydro Pump
- Stealth Rock
Replaced Mixmence for Swampy.

okay

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 HP|252 Spd|252 SAtk
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power
- Rest
- Sleep Talk Replaced CSRan for STalkRan
.

Who came up with those nicknames? 0_o Make the EVs more defensive...I'll try and find the ones I used on that sexy presidents team.

Garchomp (M) @ Life Orb / Yache Berry
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 6 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang
- Swords Dance
Replaced CBChomp for SDChomp.

What is this...taking away its dragon STAB is essentially asking anything with an Earthquake resistance or immunity to counter the UBAR UNCOUNTERABLE BEAST OMG UBAR.

[email protected] / Life Orb
EVs: 252 HP | 184 Sp.Att | 72 Speed
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam / Spikes / Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- Recover
- Psychic Hmm... UBARZ#2‼ =D Anyway, this screws stuff. Obviously I won't switch Deoxys-E on pretty much any attack. Replaced sweeper Deoxys-e for Utility counter Deoxys-E. /o\

okay

Mamoswine (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 6 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge GO CB MAMO‼ TBH, something funny occurred on ABYAY's Server when I battled T_S; Mamo outspeed Lucario. Replaced Peck for Ice Fang.

Oh please tell me this never had Peck...might as well use Snow Cloak in case the opposing team involves Hail. Also I've never found Jolly useful at all but...

Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 4 HP|252 Atk|252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed
- Crunch
- Close Combat

No reason to run Joly over Adamant.

--- Hmm... AA was given to him because I needed something to damage Modchamp. x3
Replaced Scizor for Lucario.
Instantly I would say to watch out for Kingdra considering you lack a water resistance. Generally the whole Rain Dance thing is just going to give you a lot of trouble. Watch out for Luvdisc!

IMO Vaporeon over Swampert could be helpful. You have plenty of rock resistance in Lucario and Garchomp and Vaporeon can heal them up with Wish.
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