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Old July 10th, 2008 (10:01 AM). Edited July 12th, 2008 by Lalapizzame.
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Yeah, I make yet another RMT. Also, thanks to Michael, I found out I have a glaring Garchomp weakness although I have a Deoxys-E weakness even if Weavile still lives. >.<
So, help me and read patiently. :P

The Team:


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Jolly
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Night Slash
Brick Break

CB Weavile. Great revenge-killer.

Changes for Weavile:
~ Night Slash >> Aerial Ace to stop Celebi and Cresselia from walling it as D_A has said.




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No Guard
Impish
252 HP / 36 Atk / 216 Def
Dynamicpunch
Ice Punch
Rest
Sleep Talk

T-Tar counter. Dynamicpunch with No Guard is great, and Ice Punch hammers Dragons. RestTalk gives it some sort of recovery and makes it a status absorber.

Changes for Machamp:
~ Fixed the typo of 216 Speed to Def and made it Impish



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Natural Cure
80 HP / 252 Def / 176 SpD
Calm
Toxic
Softboiled
Flamethrower
Seismic Toss

Special Wall. Flamethrower hits Steel types and Gengar. Toxic >> T-Wave this time to make opponents die over an amount of time.

Changes for Blissey:
~ Slightly abjusted the EVs
~ Flamethrower >> Aromatherapy




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Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Swords Dance
Substitute
Poison Jab
Waterfall

Since Shoddy says Tenta magically can't learn Natural Gift, I'll have to use Substitute. Anyway, this is standard SD Tenta. No one really expects this anymore. :D Poison Jab and Waterfall for STAB plus Poison Jab deals with the Grass types that resist Waterfall.

Changes for Tentacruel:
~ Leichi Berry was replaced with Salac Berry.



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Modest
Magnet Pull
172 HP / 252 SpA / 84 Speed
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Magnet Rise
Substitute

Skarm killer and kills many other Steels. HP Ice kills Dragons and Sub does help for status and stuff, Thunderbolt murders Skarm while Magnet Rise makes it not pwned by EQ or Earth Power.



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Sand Veil
Impish
252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Speed
Ice Fang

Earthquak
e
Roost
Stealth Rock

This is my Hera counter.
Ice Fang helps with Garchomp while EQ is a nice STAB that means it isn't walled by Steels or Rocks, especially Tyranitar.

Changes for Gliscor:
~ Ice Fang >> Aerial Ace
~ Slight EV adjustment

So yeah, I call myself the "Leftovers Abuser" so go ahead and suggest stuff please. ^_^


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Old July 10th, 2008 (10:38 AM). Edited July 10th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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[email protected] Band
Jolly
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Night Slash
Brick Break


LOL Aerial Ace, yay lets get walled by Cresselia and Celebi >_>. Night Slash is better.





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No Guard
Impish
252 HP / 36 Atk / 216 Def
Dynamicpunch
Ice Punch
Rest
Sleep Talk

Yep ^^




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Natural Cure
80 Sp.att / 252 Def / 176 Sp.D
Calm
Toxic
Softboiled
Flamethrower / Ice Beam
Seismic Toss

You dont need Aromatherapy with a status absorber. Use a Sp.Att to hit fail gar. Ice Beam hits bulky ground switch ins, whilst Flamethrower hits Hera, lucario, Metagross etc






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Sand Veil
Impish
252 HP / 184 DEF / 72 SPEED
Aerial Ace / Ice Fang
Earthquake
Roost
Stealth Rock

Use 72 speed evs to outspeed Jolly T-Tar, Timid Magnezone and Adamant Breloom. Your kinda Garchomp weak so id advise Ice Fang. Really your only method it to revenge kill it with weavile>_>.


yeah, pretty much.

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Old July 10th, 2008 (10:45 AM).
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For Weavile I would strongly suggest Night Slash. If anything, it will keep the fear that Weavile can bring to Ghost and Psychics amking pursuit much more viable. You may want it around for Cresselia if anything, because it my try staying in on you. And Choice Scarf users, Gengar with Focus Blast mainly. Besides, most things that you would be tempted to use Aerial Ace on will probably one shot the lil guy of give him trouble if they survive the blast.
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Like D_A and Apostle said on ABYAY's, you might want Salac > Leichi on Tentarape. :O
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Old July 11th, 2008 (8:47 AM).
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Like D_A and Apostle said on ABYAY's, you might want Salac > Leichi on Tentarape. :O
Well, I did replace the item with Salac Berry but I was too lazy and forgot to update the RMT. ^_^ *shot*
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Old July 12th, 2008 (2:51 PM).
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Originally Posted by Dancing Salamence 1.1 View Post
Yeah, I make yet another RMT. Also, thanks to Michael, I found out I have a glaring Garchomp weakness although I have a Deoxys-E weakness even if Weavile still lives. >.<
So, help me and read patiently. :P

The Team:


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


[email protected] Band
Jolly
40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Speed
Ice Shard
Pursuit
Night Slash
Brick Break

CB Weavile. Great revenge-killer.

Changes for Weavile:
~ Night Slash >> Aerial Ace to stop Celebi and Cresselia from walling it as D_A has said.




[email protected]
No Guard
Impish
252 HP / 36 Atk / 216 Def
Dynamicpunch
Ice Punch
Rest
Sleep Talk

T-Tar counter. Dynamicpunch with No Guard is great, and Ice Punch hammers Dragons. RestTalk gives it some sort of recovery and makes it a status absorber.

Changes for Machamp:
~ Fixed the typo of 216 Speed to Def and made it Impish



[email protected]
Natural Cure
80 HP / 252 Def / 176 SpD
Calm
Toxic
Softboiled
Flamethrower
Seismic Toss

Special Wall. Flamethrower hits Steel types and Gengar. Toxic >> T-Wave this time to make opponents die over an amount of time.

Changes for Blissey:
~ Slightly abjusted the EVs
~ Flamethrower >> Aromatherapy




[email protected] Berry
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
Swords Dance
Substitute
Poison Jab
Waterfall

Since Shoddy says Tenta magically can't learn Natural Gift, I'll have to use Substitute. Anyway, this is standard SD Tenta. No one really expects this anymore. :D Poison Jab and Waterfall for STAB plus Poison Jab deals with the Grass types that resist Waterfall.

Changes for Tentacruel:
~ Leichi Berry was replaced with Salac Berry.



[email protected]
Modest
Magnet Pull
172 HP / 252 SpA / 84 Speed
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Magnet Rise
Substitute

Skarm killer and kills many other Steels. HP Ice kills Dragons and Sub does help for status and stuff, Thunderbolt murders Skarm while Magnet Rise makes it not pwned by EQ or Earth Power.



[email protected]
Sand Veil
Impish
252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Speed
Ice Fang

Earthquak
e
Roost
Stealth Rock

This is my Hera counter.
Ice Fang helps with Garchomp while EQ is a nice STAB that means it isn't walled by Steels or Rocks, especially Tyranitar.

Changes for Gliscor:
~ Ice Fang >> Aerial Ace
~ Slight EV adjustment

So yeah, I call myself the "Leftovers Abuser" so go ahead and suggest stuff please. ^_^


Personally i dont like using choice band on weavile. Becuase counters can just switch in when ever they want like umbreon with the 2 dark attack. ice shard any pure ice pokemon or steel anything along the lines of that. and ghost for brick break. i like focus sash.

Machamp is a little unerestimated but stlil not that good. Alakazam shuts it off and when asleep Celelbi could be a huge problem.

Personally i like t-wave on bliss far more relibale then toxic (accuracy wise)..toxic also lowers the foes def and blissey has no phisical moves (which is shouldnt) so its not using toxic to its full affect. Since your team is on the slower side then t-wave could give it some much needed speed.

Something as simple as Venasaur will shut off tenta..along with a lot of other poison grass types.
another problem would be Empoleon. It would just have fun toying with it. I guess you did the best you could with a pokemon like that.

Do you honeslty think Magnezone will stand a change against any dragon?
Dragonite with flamethrower EQ
salamance with flamethower or fire fang or EQ
Garchomp fire fang and EQ
Now how do you plan to stand up against that.

As for gliscor its ok. its your everyday,standard gli

overall 7/10
Strong points/point=deals with your everyday OU pokemon well and uses some pokemon that will catch the foe off guard.

Bad points/point=move sets needs some help. your everyday OU dragons are going to have a blast coming into this team.

Good job nonetheless :D
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Personally i dont like using choice band on weavile. Becuase counters can just switch in when ever they want like umbreon with the 2 dark attack. ice shard any pure ice pokemon or steel anything along the lines of that. and ghost for brick break. i like focus sash.

Focus sash = Auto fail, hi my name is omnipresent Sandstorm.

You also dont seem to be able to grasp the concept of "Choice" Items, which are supposed to be used based on prediction of what comes in. Which means, no umbreon does not counter it.

Machamp is a little unerestimated but stlil not that good. Alakazam shuts it off and when asleep Celelbi could be a huge problem.

No, Alakazam cannot switch in, it has paper defenses.


Again you dont seem to be able to grasp prediction, when Celebi/Zam comes in, go to weavile and Night Slash/Pursuit it =/.





Personally i like t-wave on bliss far more relibale then toxic (accuracy wise)..toxic also lowers the foes def and blissey has no phisical moves (which is shouldnt) so its not using toxic to its full affect.

What the heck are you talking about ? No Toxic does not lower defense, please do some research. Toxic breaks down bulky grounds and waters who like to switch into blissey and other stuff that likes to set up on it, also helping it with stalling. Accuracy of status moves, bar Grass Whistle, is not a viable argument for not using Toxic.


Something as simple as Venasaur will shut off tenta..along with a lot of other poison grass types.

The art of switching out of counters come to mind and no, Venusaur does not shut it down, Poison Jab is neutral, so venosaur will be in for a world of hurt.

another problem would be Empoleon. It would just have fun toying with it.


Empoleon also cannot do much to Tenta regardless, unless its a rare physical one with EQ. Still it cant take SD Waterfalls.

Oh wait, Magnezone traps empoleon aswell, so another moot point =/.



Do you honeslty think Magnezone will stand a change against any dragon?
Dragonite with flamethrower EQ
salamance with flamethower or fire fang or EQ
Garchomp fire fang and EQ

Do you honestly think Magnezone will stay in ? =/

Now how do you plan to stand up against that.


Lest see, Magnezone can come in on outrages. Gliscor has Ice Fang and can beat most no outraging dragons, OH wait, he also has Weavile @ ice Shard for revenge killing.




overall 7/10

Dont do this, it doesnt help.

Strong points/point=deals with your everyday OU pokemon well and uses some pokemon that will catch the foe off guard.

?

Bad points/point=move sets needs some help. your everyday OU dragons are going to have a blast coming into this team.

No, not really.

Ive told you time and time again, this is not the kind of rates we are looking for. I suggest you do some research, on counters, choice items, and what toxic does most specifically. Then come back. If i see another rate this poor from you, or anyone for this matter, heck its even in the rules that people apparently dont read, infractions WILL be handed out.
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