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Old July 11th, 2008 (6:42 PM). Edited July 14th, 2008 by Jake♫.
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Ability: Intimidate
Modest Nature
252 SpA/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP
Draco Meteor
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower
Hydro Pump


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Naive Nature
Ability: Blaze
252 SpA/ 232 Spe/ 24 Atk
Nasty Plot
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Close Combat


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Adamant Nature
Ability: Clear Body
252 HP/ 244 Atk/ 12 Def
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion
Thunderpunch/Pursuit/Bullet Punch


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Timid Nature
Ability: Pressure
252 HP / 184 SpA / 72 Speed
Psychic
Recover
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt


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Impish Nature
Ability: Sand Veil
252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Atk
Earthquake
Roost
Aerial Ace/ Ice Fang/ Stone Edge
Stealth Rock


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Calm Nature
Ability:Natural Cure
252 Def/ 40 SpA/ 216 SpD
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Toxic/Thunder Wave
Softboiled

Changes:
New Deoxys, Nature changed to Hasty
Switched Donphan for Gliscor (Now I'm in the need of a spinner, and still not sure what to get rid of)
Switched CBTar for CBGross, not only does it provide better coverage, block Deoxys-E and can hit all types for at least neutral damage.
Switched Blissey for Tentacruel. Gives better Mixape Coverage, and gives me a Toxic Spiker and Rapid Spinner.
Back to Blissey
Changed Deoxys around again
Seismic Toss>>Ice Beam for Blissey
Fixed a typo (Thanks ABYAY)
Possible Changes:
Switching Mixape for Starmie. I already have 2 Special Sweeps, and no spinner
Switching Blissey for Tentacruel. It blocks HP Ice Mixape, and still is a potential special wall. Not to mention it can set up Toxic Spikes AND spin.
If Tentacruel replaces Blissey, use Gross as a Sleep Talker, as I'll have a huge status problem.


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Old July 12th, 2008 (9:29 AM).
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HP Ice Mixape runs through this team- especially once Deoxys is out of the way. In fact, Deoxys seems to be your only answer to many threats- and he can't even do anything besides revenge kill. Take out Donphan, first off, and get some decent walling.

Also, that Deoxys sucks. If Brave is the only thing you can get for him, he's better off scrapped (although if you need, I can trade you a Naive Deoxys...).
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Old July 12th, 2008 (7:31 PM).
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Thanks to Air getting me a new Deoxys, I'll update my team, with the updates in the first post
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Old July 12th, 2008 (10:13 PM).
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I don't see Tyranitar being a good teamplayer here- Sandstorm only benefits Gliscor, yet hinders greatly all of your other Pokémon.

Change it to Metagross or Scizor so that besides not having to deal with Sandstorm [as often], you also get rid of your Deoxys-E weakness. :3
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Old July 12th, 2008 (10:36 PM).
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Opposing Deoxys-E run through your team. You want to run at least 116 Spd EV's to outspeed the others, although many are now running 252 to outspeed all variations.

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Old July 13th, 2008 (6:31 AM).
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Changes made, but still thinking of switching Blissey with Tentacruel
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Old July 13th, 2008 (8:28 AM).
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I don't like Blissey at all, so I'd change her for Tentacruel in a heartbeat. But that's just my personal opinion.

Not to mention, Tenta would be a nice way for your team to stop Mixape, since you'd need Deoxys-E alive to do it.

Talking about Mixape, yours is missing some EVs.
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Old July 13th, 2008 (10:33 AM). Edited July 13th, 2008 by Jake♫.
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That's what I was thinking as well. Blissey really isn't doing much here. But then I'll have a status problem, so I might have to make CBGross to Rest Talk Gross

That's what I was thinking as well. Blissey really isn't doing much here. But then I'll have a status problem, so I might have to make CBGross to Rest Talk Gross
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What do you have against Blissey? She is the best Special Wall in the game. :/
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Old July 13th, 2008 (11:00 AM).
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That's what I was thinking as well. Blissey really isn't doing much here. But then I'll have a status problem, so I might have to make CBGross to Rest Talk Gross

That's what I was thinking as well. Blissey really isn't doing much here. But then I'll have a status problem, so I might have to make CBGross to Rest Talk Gross


Um, you have just made yourself Azelf/Porygon-z/Gengar <Insert ANY half decent sp.sweeper weak >, congrats XD.

Blissey >>Tenta.



Make deoxys this, so you have a countering utility to Ape, Dos and Chomp.


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Timid Nature
- Recover
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Psychic

You also dont NEED 2 mix sweepers with ape.
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Old July 13th, 2008 (11:00 AM).
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Gah, lol, this is getting all confusing and such, but it shall be worth it!! D_A's opinion>all at this point :D

Now to get a Timid Deoxys :P
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What do you have against Blissey? She is the best Special Wall in the game. :/
It's just personal preference. I don't like using Blissey.

And no, I don't think she is cheap. I don't think she's a bad Pokémon either. I just... don't like to use her.
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Blissey wants Seismic Toss >>Ice Beam or CM Kou etc go OLOL.
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Old July 13th, 2008 (12:25 PM).
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Thanks for the advice D_A, like the title says, I need it :D
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your MixApe EVs look messed up...4HP? 252sp.atk/232spd/24atk is the common for maximum effectiveness.

Keep Deoxys-E alive at all costs, or you're going to be run down by Gyarados with if it has DD/Waterfall/Ice Fang/Earthquake, as well as HP Ice Infernape (Both, quite strangely, are what I run.)

Those are the only two I can think of, seeing as if you can outpredict CBTar, it will die.
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