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Originally Posted by prophet789
So down to my team. I've taken your advice and has dropped Blaziken, and I'm considering replacing it for the Donphan set mentioned by Espy. I would really like to keep Weavile and Electivire though, but if its not possible what is the best thing to replace them with?.
I have changed:
Salamence @ Choice Band (Should I replace a move for DDance?) Dragon Dance and CB don't work together, either use Expert Belt and replace AA for DD or keep what you have.
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
Adamant
- Dragon Rush
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
- Stone Edge
Donphan @ Leftovers
EVs: 200 HP/188 Atk/122 Def
Nature: Impish (Def+/SAtk-)
- Rapid Spin
- Ice Shard
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
Is it possible to use a different pokemon instead of Donphan as he isn't my favorite pokemon? Yeah, there's other spiker/spinners you can use. Forretress or Cloyster could easily replace Donphan.
I have also changed my Swampet from my offensive set to more defensive:
Swampert @ Leftovers
240 HP / 216 Def / 52 SpA 52 Atk
Relaxed
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam Punch
- Stealth Rock
- Surf Waterfall/ Roar / Toxic
Swampert has more physical firepower than special, so I'd replace some of those special moves with physical and replace your SAtk EVs with Atk so that you can actually hurt more back.
So thats 3 down.
Now I still have my other 3:
[email protected] Skarf Specs
Timid - 4 HP/ 252 SPA/ 252 SPE
Thunderbolt
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Specs > Scarf. Gengar is already at Espeon's level in speed, but it lacks that kind of SAtk (Espeon's max is 394). Specs gives you a desperately needed firepower boost.
[email protected] Sash Focus Sash is OK, also consider Life Orb and Expert Belt.
Jolly - 40 HP/ 252 ATK/ 216 SPE You need max attack and speed if you ever want to do anything with this. 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP please.
Ice Punch
Swords Dance
Night Slash
Brick Break
[email protected]/Lifeorb
Adamant - 6 HP/ 252 ATK/ 252 SPE
Crosschop
Earthquake
Icepunch
ThunderPunch
Anything for these pokemon?
I would like this team to be my main team and will be able to verse online and competitions, basically any battle.
Thanks again!
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You really need some kind of anti-special. Otherwise I'll sweep you with something stupid.
If you want to keep Electivire, I might have you scrap Gengar instead and make Vire mixed.
Something like so:
Electivire @ Leftovers
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 Atk
Nature: Mild (SAtk+/Def-)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
Bring it in and sub up. This protects you from Dugtrio since Focus Punch is an automatic OHKO on 252/252/4 Dugtrio (barely but it still is), and it allows you to get your next shot off. Then just use which ever attack is the most effective. Your main counters are Crescelia and Psychic special Lotus-class tanks like the Gardevoir from my first post. Focus Punch will actually outdamage Thunderbolt against Gardevoir, you won't touch Crescelia no matter what you do. Oh, and you might want to try coming in on Thunder Waves aimed at Sala/Gar/Weavile. That'll give you Motor Drive too.
Since your team has so much physical power on it, Vire only has to wipe out the enemy's physical tank. Since most physical tanks are steel type, Flamethrower will rip them apart. Cloyster dies to Thunderbolt and Leafeon/Tangrowth also die to Flamethrower.
Now you can go with a special wall as your last Pokemon. Personally I'd still recommend my Gardevoir that I posted above, but Crescelia would work too and will lead to less flak aimed at me, so I'll give you a Crescelia to use.
Crescelia @ Leftovers
EVs: 212 HP / 108 SAtk / 88 Def / 100 SDef (just a rough estimate of the kind of EVs you'd need, feel free to modify this)
Nature: Calm (SDef+/Atk-)
- Psychic
- Charge Beam
- Moonlight/Rest
- Thunder Wave
Crescelia can take special hits actually better than Gardevoir straight up (if Garde boosts it's now better). It also counters stuff like Mixape, Mixvire, etc., which rip apart a lot of teams. Thunder Wave also stops sweepers from sweeping by making them slow.
Or you can keep Gengar with the changes I made and then replace Vire with Crescelia/Gardevoir. I generally try to let people keep as many of their chosen Pokemon as I can, it's just how I do things.
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