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Old July 19th, 2008 (3:27 PM). Edited July 21st, 2008 by Outlawed.
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<insert long boring speech about how I love Sand Storm here>
Adding to that is the fact that this has been modified alot, so I don't think it can go anywhere. Again, I usually forget things, so opinions!




Tyranitar @ Choice Band
176 Hp / 252 Atk / 80 Spe
Adamant
~ Stone Edge
~ Crunch
~ Earthquake
~ Pursuit

After experimenting around for a bit. Switching between Boah, DD and Standard CB Tar, I found this set most rewarding.


Garchomp @ Life Orb
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
Jolly
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Claw
~ Swords Dance
~ Fire Fang

Running Sub on this used to be something I enjoyed. However, Sand Veil HAX don't always work. So Fire Fang for more coverage and to hit Bronzong and Skarmory with a 2HKO after an SD.


Gliscor @ Leftovers
252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 Atk
Impish
~ Stealth Rock
~ Roost
~ Ice Fang
~ Earthquake

"Add more speed to outspeed Jolly Tar and Metagross".... No. I don't want it to do that because I don't really care what they do. When I see them I will Earthquake regardless and get my 2HKO/3HKO depending on their sets. This survives SD'd Stuff and hits back with Ice Fang and it's big bulk allows for a smoother SR'ing.


Starmie @ Leftovers
160 Hp / 132 Sp.Atk / 216 Spe
Natural Cure
Timid
~ Thunderbolt
~ Surf
~ Rapid Spin
~ Recover

Standard. However, this thing does nicely in Sandstorm teams, and it actually supports more on the special side that spinning, because SR barely hits most of the team. Rapid Spin when it gets dumb with layers of spikes and stuff. <3 it still.


Lucario @ Choice Specs
252 Sp.atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Modest
~ Shadow Ball
~ HP [ICE]
~ Vacuum Wave
~ Aura Sphere

Blissey that switches onto this dies. Sadly this fails to 2HKO some Spiritombs, but does well with SR + Stream coverage and does the job. Weavile counter, and takes Ice hits at occasions.


Blissey @ Leftovers
252 Def / 40 Sp.Atk / 216 Sp.Def
Natural Cure
Bold
~ Seismic Toss
~ Thunder Wave
~ Aromatherapy
~ Softboiled

Leik ZOMG, you can't touch ghosts with this..... yeah I know I don't need to. If Gay-ngar and friends show up I paralyze them and let Lucario finish the rest of the job. What kind of Gengar stays in on Blissey any way. Cleric and keeps Lucario doing what he does, paralyzed Specs Luke is just heavy wait and this is a very important addition to this team.

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Old July 20th, 2008 (3:17 PM).
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<insert long boring speech about how I love Sand Storm here>
Adding to that is the fact that this has been modified alot, so I don't think it can go anywhere. Again, I usually forget things, so opinions!




Tyranitar @ Choice Band
176 Hp / 252 Atk / 80 Def
Adamant
~ Stone Edge
~ Crunch
~ Earthquake
~ Pursuit

After experimenting around for a bit. Switching between Boah, DD and Standard CB Tar, I found this set most rewarding.

Not rewarding as a lead, but I guess with the sand theme you have no choice.


Garchomp @ Life Orb
252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
Jolly
~ Earthquake
~ Dragon Claw
~ Swords Dance
~ Fire Fang

Running Sub on this used to be something I enjoyed. However, Sand Veil HAX don't always work. So Fire Fang for more coverage and to hit Bronzong and Skarmory with a 2HKO after an SD.

um okay


Gliscor @ Leftovers
252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 Atk
Impish
~ Stealth Rock
~ Roost
~ Ice Fang
~ Earthquake

"Add more speed to outspeed Jolly Tar and Metagross".... No. I don't want it to do that because I don't really care what they do. When I see them I will Earthquake regardless and get my 2HKO/3HKO depending on their sets. This survives SD'd Stuff and hits back with Ice Fang and it's big bulk allows for a smoother SR'ing.

Um sure


Starmie @ Leftovers
160 Hp / 132 Sp.Atk / 216 Spe
Natural Cure
Timid
~ Thunderbolt
~ Surf
~ Rapid Spin
~ Recover

Standard. However, this thing does nicely in Sandstorm teams, and it actually supports more on the special side that spinning, because SR barely hits most of the team. Rapid Spin when it gets dumb with layers of spikes and stuff. <3 it still.

eh, sure


Lucario @ Choice Specs
252 Sp.atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def
Modest
~ Shadow Ball
~ HP [ICE]
~ Vacuum Wave
~ Aura Sphere

Blissey that switches onto this dies. Sadly this fails to 2HKO some Spiritombs, but does well with SR + Stream coverage and does the job. Weavile counter, and takes Ice hits at occasions.

As bad as Weavile is, this is not a counter so don't feel totally safe switching in.


Blissey @ Leftovers
252 Def / 40 Sp.Atk / 216 Sp.Def
Natural Cure
Bold
~ Seismic Toss
~ Thunder Wave
~ Aromatherapy
~ Softboiled

Leik ZOMG, you can't touch ghosts with this..... yeah I know I don't need to. If Gay-ngar and friends show up I paralyze them and let Lucario finish the rest of the job. What kind of Gengar stays in on Blissey any way.

One with Explosion...

Cleric and keeps Lucario doing what he does, paralyzed Specs Luke is just heavy wait and this is a very important addition to this team.

Alright

Rate away.
Well I'm not liking what Dugtrio can do, taking out your only two pokemon that can hit hard right away as well as your special wall. Be careful!

Really big Mamoswine weakness. Weavile isn't a pal either. Garchomp is equally troubling, as Gliscor is a rather poor counter for it. Any Gyarados that gets past Starmie will sweep this team too, which is a bit unsettling. You also have a slight SDhera weak, as it gets past Gliscor lacking Aerial Ace.

Bronzong would help this team a lot. It helps against a lot of your weaknesses (Mamoswine and Weavile especially). It helps against Garchomp a lot too.

It's hard to really figure out what to replace though, so you make that call. Also, run Ice Beam >>> Rapid Spin on Starmie (your team does great against SR anyways) and AA >>> Ice Fang on Gliscor (only if you're really SDhera fearful, but I still would recommend it).
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Old July 20th, 2008 (3:37 PM).
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Tyranitar @ Choice Band
176 Hp / 252 Atk / 80 Def
Adamant
~ Stone Edge
~ Crunch
~ Earthquake
~ Pursuit

After experimenting around for a bit. Switching between Boah, DD and Standard CB Tar, I found this set most rewarding.

Use 80 speed >>80 def evs, so you can outspeed standard Skarm and 2hko it with Stone Edge, otherwise it will just Roost and buy itself a rock resist and stall you out.
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Old July 21st, 2008 (1:37 AM). Edited July 21st, 2008 by Outlawed.
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Very true Mr.Anti Pop
I didn't see Dugtrio causing a threat but you are right.
Also some infoz.
Gliscor can take 2 Outrages from Jolly Chomp and live to tell the tale, and so if Garchomp is hurt, I can come in and finish it off with Ice Fang. But as you said, Hera hates me. So I see it nicely to add Aerial Ace for more stab and equip Starmie with the Ice Beam needed to finish off Dragons.

Also sorry for mistake about ev spread, I have 80 points in SPEED not def made to be faster than Skarmory. Sorry about that.

So now a choice of Rapid Spin and Ice Beam
and a Choice of Ice Fang and Aerial Ace

But I really can't think of what to take out to a fit a bronzong in here. Also, Vacuum Wave does good Damage to dugtrio, but it's going to catch me doing Shadow Ball or Aura Sphere and trap/kill me.
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