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Old July 25th, 2008 (2:38 PM).
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levitate
sassy
hp:252, sp.def:252, sp.att:4
light screen
gyro ball
stealth rock
hypnosis

lead/stealth rocker, sassy to make it slower, light screen to help out party.
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rock head
jolly
att:252, spd:252, hp:4
toxic/ something else if I scarfed
heat smash
earthquake
waterfall

try to sweep if that doesn't work breed/train one for walling.
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levitate
timid
spd:252, hp:128, sp.att:128
thunderbolt
shadow ball
calm mind
substitute

spc.sweeper
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pressure
jolly
att:252, spd:252, hp:4
night slash
pursuit
brick break
ice punch

p.sweeper
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hyper cutter
impish
hp:252, def:252, att:4
roost
aerial ace
earthquake
ice fang

p.wall & to offset weaknesses!
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pressure
brave
hp:252, att:84, def:84, sp.def:84
fire punch
shadow punch
earthquake
will-o-wisp

mix.wall
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I don't like legendaries, choicers or life orb so don't suggest them. The only reason I have relic/scarf as an option is because that's what I'll have to run untill I breed/train a wall version.

Give it a 1-10 (1 being worst 10 being best) rating & explain why, don't rate it if you won't explain why.

The team is in the middle of ev training so I can only change moves at this point!
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Old July 25th, 2008 (3:45 PM).
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First off, we don't do number rates. This team gets run down by Mixape, very easily. It doesn't hit hard enough, it gets beaten by status (especially Toxic, since it's walled easily).

Dusknoir doesn't need all those moves. You'll have to rebreed your Dusknoir to get Pain Split, or else it's very easy to beat. Brave is also a terrible nature, go Impish or Careful. Those are also terrible IVs. Splitting them evenly makes ALL of them useless. Just go all 252 HP, 76 Sp.Def, 176 Def, or something along those lines. Life Orb is also a very useful item, since you don't hit much hard with Expert Belt.
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Old July 25th, 2008 (5:44 PM).
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Relicanth... doesn't sweep. It should switch in on some Pokemon it can counter really well like Blissey and (1) Either force a switch and get a free Head Smash or (2) Head Smash the Pokemon it counters. Damn right. >D

Anyways... Relicanth will not go for a long term sweep like Weavile or Garchomp do. So Choice Band it and revenge kill with Head Smash. <3 With that said, Relicanth should aim for more attacking power and strike with powerful blows, so go with Adamant > Jolly and pump some EVs into physical Defense and HP. Relicanth can live through Earthquakes, and that's why you need the defense. Fast Grass types counter Relicanth pretty well, but none of them can really switch in without a good dent or even a KO from Head Smash. You could pump 244 Speed EVs into it to outrun a slow Suicune, but I'd rather have raw power. Anyways, I really am a frequent user of Relicanth. It's served me well. :D

Oh, and by the way, use Double Edge for the last slot on a Choice Band set.

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Question: Why the fack does Weavile not have Swords Dance? D:
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Old July 25th, 2008 (6:01 PM). Edited July 26th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Question: Why the fack does Weavile not have Swords Dance? D:
Because it is a disgrace to pokemon that SD Weavile is used. I would type up my argument against it but here it is on pe2k (I'm SN1Fan if you couldn't figure it out):Link edited out.

Anyways, it's not just SD Weavile that sucks. Without a Choice Band, Weavile is the epitome of useless (and even with one it's not exactly great) and you won't use CBers, so I would just scrap it.

Mismagius needs HP Fighting over Thunderbolt or it's going to lose to Blissey (and it shouldn't be losing to Blissey given Sub, CM, and its ghost typing to avoid Seismic Toss). You also get hammered by Pursuiters, Tyranitar especially, without it.

Also Bronzong isn't really a great lead anymore...most people carry anti-leads to shut it down (Moltres, Taunt/SR Azelf, etc.) I actually don't think relicanth would be a bad idea since it can really screw up a few leads, though Bronzong is a lot safer.
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