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Old July 26th, 2008 (6:21 PM).
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Ok I got me a lv1 squirtle and wanted to ev train it, (which I've never done with any poke at all), in attack and speed, Ok I thought that you gave it the items do do that at the level you got it, ok found out that was wrong, so I leveled it up to a wartortle and tried again and it still wouldn't take the items, now it's a blastoise level 50 something and still it want take the items, WHY??
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Old July 26th, 2008 (7:00 PM).
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to ev something, you have to defeat certain pokemon that hold those EVs. By beating those pokemon, you give your pokemon a stat upgrade. and by feeding your pokemon protein won't really help. It's just really expensive.
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Old July 26th, 2008 (7:25 PM).
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That just makes no sense to me cause I had a blastoise thar took those items with no problem, bur it was not the nature I wanted.
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Vitamins will increase the EVs of their corresponding stat by 10. You can only use a maximum of ten vitamins for a single stat, and then your pokemon will refuse to take them. Also, if your pokemon is maxed out on EVs or maxed out on that particular stat, it will refuse to take the vitamins.
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You have to have the right nature to get your blastoise EV'ed in the right stats. By taking protein and all that stuff, you just boost it a tiny bit, and plus, it's easier to just EV
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Old July 26th, 2008 (9:06 PM).
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Old July 26th, 2008 (9:32 PM).
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you defeat certain pokemon (EV's are based on a pokemon's naturally high stat - i.e. zubat = 1 speed ev)
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You can only give a pokemon vitamins if it has less than 100 EVs in that stat, and once it hits 100 it will stop taking items. So by the time you've reached level 50 with blastoise you've probably already accumilated 100 Attack EVs, hence why it wont take protein.
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Yes I know that part about the 100, but it wouldn't even take them as the newly hatched squirtle.
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Well, did you already give it 10 vitamins?
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Well, did you already give it 10 vitamins?
No I didn't already give it any, like I said it wouldn't take them, so I thought that it had to be leveled up some, so I leveled to wartortle and still it would.
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So, it was a newly hatched Squirtle at level 1 that you're absolutely sure had no EVs? And he wouldn't accept a single vitamin?

Either you made a mistake (such as the Squirtle already having EVs, or you feeding it the wrong item), or that's a hacked Squirtle.
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So, it was a newly hatched Squirtle at level 1 that you're absolutely sure had no EVs? And he wouldn't accept a single vitamin?

Either you made a mistake (such as the Squirtle already having EVs, or you feeding it the wrong item), or that's a hacked Squirtle.
No, I made no mistakes, I can clone that exact same squirtle and give it to you to prove it.
Ok how will I know if it's a hack??
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Beats me. Where did you get it? Did you hatch it yourself?
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Beats me. Where did you get it? Did you hatch it yourself?
I got in from a trade and it looks legit.
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I got in from a trade and it looks legit.
Don't judge it on just looks.
Obviously, if it's not eating vitamins, it's EVs have been maxed out with vitamins.
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So you got it in a trade? That changes things. What level was it?
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So you got it in a trade? That changes things. What level was it?
It's a lv1
and was hatched on some rt. I can't remember and it's stats are:
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I don't have it in front of me but did remember that much about it.
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Well...
If its level one, and its stats are like that, then i'm not sure why it won't do that.
Because i'm sure the vitamins would give even a level 1 at least some stat boost
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Well I thought so too, even the other squirtle I had that wasn't a good nature for me took them and it was hatched lv5.
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If its level one, and its stats are like that, then i'm not sure why it won't do that.
Because i'm sure the vitamins would give even a level 1 at least some stat boost
Not really. Remember, 4 EVs= 1 point at level 100. So, with 100 in each stat (I'm assuming), that would be 25 extra points at 100. Doing the math, that'd be one extra point at level four. It's level 1. :|

Also, according to Metalkid's calc, the IVs for that Squirtle are (given 100 in each stat, which is what I'm assuming)

HP: Invalid (You never gave its HP)
Att: 0 - 31
Def: 0 - 31
SpA: 0 - 31
SpD: 0 - 31
Speed: 0 - 31

So yeah, my guess is that it was EV'd before you received it. If you want to be absolutely sure, I can check its EVs and IVs in Pokesav.
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Not really. Remember, 4 EVs= 1 point at level 100. So, with 100 in each stat (I'm assuming), that would be 25 extra points at 100. Doing the math, that'd be one extra point at level four. It's level 1. :|

Also, according to Metalkid's calc, the IVs for that Squirtle are (given 100 in each stat, which is what I'm assuming)

HP: Invalid (You never gave its HP)
Att: 0 - 31
Def: 0 - 31
SpA: 0 - 31
SpD: 0 - 31
Speed: 0 - 31

So yeah, my guess is that it was EV'd before you received it. If you want to be absolutely sure, I can check its EVs and IVs in Pokesav.
Good point on all of that.
So yeah, probably a wee bit of EVs.

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Which I have. I couldn't live without my M3.
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Which I have. I couldn't live without my M3.
Ok I would appreciate it if you would check it for me, let me get your fc and I'll lend it to you for a bit as long as you give it back?

Sorry now I see your fc use my diamond fc please and do the invite.
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