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Old July 28th, 2008 (7:27 AM). Edited July 29th, 2008 by Beginnings.
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Katana(Gallade)@Lum Berry
Adamant
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
Shadow Sneak
Stone Edge
Close Combat
Swords Dance

I love this guy, he can take out most leads, makes quick work of most leads, including other Gallades, after a swords dance, it can sweep a good amount of pokemon.



Kumori(Dusknoir)@Leftovers
Impish
252 HP/252 Def/4 Atk
Shadow Sneak
Thunderpunch
Pain Split
Will-O-Wisp

This guy is a monster, he's got a HUGE defense and special defense stat, and a respectable attack stat, Shadow Sneak to get priority on Gengar,
Pain Split for recovery and Thunderpunch to counter Gyrados.



Kangoshi(Blissey)@Leftovers
Calm
252 Def/176 Sp.Def/80 Sp.Atk
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Ice Beam


Keikoku(Togekiss)@Lum Berry
Modest
252 HP/152 SP.Atk/104 Spd
Roost
Nasty Plot
Air Slash
Aura Sphere

My special sweeper, the one I needed :)


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Naive
252 Sp.Atk/4 Atk/252 Spd
Nasty Plot
Close Combat
Flamethrower
Grass Knot

After a Nasty Plot, this girl proceeds to clean up towards the end of the battle.


Wanizame(Garchomp)@Choice Scarf
Jolly
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 HP
Outrage
Fire Fang
Earthquake
Stone Edge

People said that I needed a good physical sweeper, and running Scarfchomp will add
a second huge threat to my team if Mixape doesn't get it Scarfchomp will.

So that's the team, as you can see I probably need all the help I can get,
Thanks in advance!

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*Updated EV spread on Dusknoir


*Added Double Edge to Relicanth

*Updated EV's to Gyrados

*Traded Gyrados for Scarfchomp

* Updated Blissey's Ev's

*Traded Relicanth for Empoleon

*Traded Empoleon for Togekiss
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Old July 28th, 2008 (9:51 AM).
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Here's your Bulky Gyara Spread:
216 HP / 16 Atk / 176 Def / 100 Spe

Relicanth's fourth move? All of your attacks get resisted by Breloom, who can come in, SubPunch/ SubSeed, the seed bomb you or Focus Punch you out. Double-Edge for coverage on Breloom.

You're also pretty Gengar weak. Put a Ghost counter on your team, probably in plsce of Gallade. SD Luke with Bullet Punch, Metagross w/ Bullet Punch, or Heatran can come in and make a nice counter.
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Blissey & Shadow Sneak Dusknoir/Gallade may be able to handle Gengar.

However, you cannot get around with not putting a single point of HP on Dusknoir. That must always be maxed.

*But sims, it makes Pain Split moar strongah!*

Shut up, it doesn't matter if your dead before you use it.
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Old July 28th, 2008 (10:14 AM).
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He has Ice Beam Blissey for that unless it's SubPunch Gengar. Also, that Gyara set is outdated... I use 218HP/16atk/128Def/148spd to outspeed common speeds for base 115s (351), hitting 352 or so after a DD. You could use that set hardcore mentioned for extra bulk, but Starmie will come in each day of the week and counter with its Thunderbolt. With that spread, you still hold good bulk, and weakened Starmie can hit the executioner unless they're 361 speed.

With Dusky, it's VITAL BY ALL MEANS to give it HP EVs. Otherwise, you're pretty dead, even with all of that defense. You won't be walling much with what...231 HP? Shuckle dies to strong hits without HP, and so will Dusknoir.
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Old July 28th, 2008 (11:21 AM).
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KK, I've

*Added Double Edge to Relicanth
*Put EV's from Sp.Def into HP on Dusknoir
*Updated Gyrados' EV Spread
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Old July 28th, 2008 (1:08 PM).
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Give gallade 6 def Ev's and a nature that is (SpA -, Def +) nobody predicts it and it lets it survive attacks that normally kill gallade

Choice banded canth is nice and i love canth greatly, but try choice scarf canth its fun
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I like your Gallade and Relicanth, smart move using Relicanth's ability. Infernape as a Mixed Sweeper? Probably work better with all special moves since you EV trained for S. Atk, but Close Combat DOES get STABed.. So no big deal. Good team overall.:)
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Good God, you need to learn a bit more before you rate. MixApe is THE most used Infernape set I have ever seen, EVAR. He rips teams apart if unprepared. Halted by Psychics, though, especially Grumpig & Cressy.
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yeah, nothing kills Grumpig Sims...Even Arceus is afraid of it.

I just realized that DDTar can and will give you trouble. With one DD, then Dusknoir, Infernape, and Blissey are troubled...after 2, well...yeah.

Nice Bulky Fighter can go over Gallade, something like Hariyama, but Gallade is an impressive lead... I dunno, I'll let people that are good at counters help there.
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If you want to counter Tar, RestTalk Machamp is the most common Tar Counter, along with Hariyama. I don't get why, though, Hari has way low def.

Another thing: Afte Mixape is gone, your team is going to run into trouble against physical walls. You need a real special sweeper in there, not a mixed one. I would say run a SpecsLuke, Mence, or Kingdra in place of Dos. Magnezone also has a good Sp., Atk. rating, you could put it in to trapkill stupid Steel-types who left their Shed Shells in the bedroom dresser (Skarmory for ex.)
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Old July 28th, 2008 (3:33 PM). Edited July 28th, 2008 by sims796.
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Hari also has killer HP & Thick Fat, along with a resistance to almost every move.

EDIT: Meant HP.
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Okay, I've added ScarfChomp as a Physical Sweeper, unless he is still banned on some servers?
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Hari also has killer HP & Thick Fat, along with a resistance to almost every move.

EDIT: Meant HP.

Yes I agree with sims Hariyama with Flame orb is Pretty deadly.

This particular set pwned the most for me:

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Good idea with Scarfchomp, However, you still have one main problem on your team. You have exactly ONE attacking pokemon that uses special attacks, and thats your mixape. After mixape is gone, physical walls can come in and stall you out. You need a special sweeper somewhere in there. Preferably something that can come in and resist most of Gar's attacks, as your team can run into probelms with a specsgar that runs HP Ice/ Focus Blast/ Thunderbolt/ Shadow Ball. Heatran, Jirachi, and Spiritomb work nicely.
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Nah, Blissey is fine with specs gar, if he stops using useless defunct Bold Blissey and use 252 DEF / 176 SP.DEF / 80 SP.ATT @Calm nature.AKA Win Bliss.
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Good point, he's still going to get walled by phyiscal walls though. He needs a special attcker in there.
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I notice that you don't have a nature listed for Scarfchomp. Are you debating what to use, or did you just forget? I'm fairly sure he should be Adamant since Scarf provides plenty of Speed.
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Adamnat or Jolly works on Scarfchomp, Jolly if you want to out run Adamant Scarfchomps, or Adamant if you want more oomph.
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KK, I've added a special sweeper in place of Relicanth, he wasn't doing much for my team :)
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