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Old July 28th, 2008 (5:38 PM).
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My friend, Elvis (yes i know funny name) was THE single handedly the toughest person to battle. Our predictions were crazy, and we went back and forth with wins and losses...but now...he has decided to take up the path of the marines, and wont be able to play at all anymore...so as a dedication toward the great fun and awesome wifi wins he's had, i made this team a look-alike of the real team he has. Plz dont change the pokes but if it trusly has to i understand...

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Jolly
Intimidate
252 Attack/252 Speed/ 4 HP

Crunch
Flare Blitz
Substitute
Thunder Fang

His main lead. Substitute is for status and to use on the switch, it doesnt make sense with Orb i know, but subbing on a switch is really an underrated move...it screwed me up ALOT. Crunch hits cress harder, thunder fang is to hit gyrados harder(i know it wont survive waterfall but it is it's only defense against waters excluding swampert) Intimidate helps too.

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Relaxed
252 Hp/252 Def/ 4 sp. Atk

Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Will-o-Wisp
Explosion/Pain Split

Defensive wall. He liked to switch around explosion and pain split...with split it lasted longer, with explosion he usually got rid of what he wanted to...just sacrificing his main physical defense.

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Hasty
252 Speed/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 4 Hp

Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Ice
Explosion
Taunt

A specs user with Taunt isn't as bad as it seems. Most of the time when a switch is predicted he used it on something that really can set up on him...such as mence. Specs is here to cover his low Sp. atk, it still isn't perfect but hey. He got lucky with breeding and caught HP Ice, which helps to destroy Dragons. T-bolt is obvious...

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Jolly
252 Speed/ 252 Attack/ 4 Hp

Leaf Blade
Dragon Claw
X-Scissor
Earthquake

Ev spreads are getting pretty simple huh? lol. Anyway, here's his physical sweeper, i think this hits about everything for neutral and has lots of coverage so he put expert belt here.

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Careful
Thick Fat
252 Hp/ 252 Sp. atk/ 4 Atk.

Crunch
Body Slam
Rest
Sleep Talk

Standard...


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Impish
Technician
252 Hp/ 144 Def./ 108 Atk

Swords Dance
Brick Break
Night Slash
Baton Pass

His Passer. Swords Dances to Arcanine and Sceppy, sometimes even Snorlax!(hey, body slam on lax is beastly...) Brick Break and night slash to attack back. +22 attack lets him hit 381 without a + nature, he doesnt need it, he sword dances and supports really.

Well, thats his team...any criticism is welcome.
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Old July 28th, 2008 (10:44 PM).
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My friend, Elvis (yes i know funny name) was THE single handedly the toughest person to battle. Our predictions were crazy, and we went back and forth with wins and losses...but now...he has decided to take up the path of the marines, and wont be able to play at all anymore...so as a dedication toward the great fun and awesome wifi wins he's had, i made this team a look-alike of the real team he has. Plz dont change the pokes but if it trusly has to i understand...

I'll try not to, but Electrode will have to go I'm afraid :( Good inteions though, I'll do my best to help out.

[email protected] Orb
Jolly
Intimidate
252 Attack/252 Speed/ 4 HP

Crunch
Flare Blitz
Substitute
Thunder Fang

His main lead. Substitute is for status and to use on the switch, it doesnt make sense with Orb i know, but subbing on a switch is really an underrated move...it screwed me up ALOT. Crunch hits cress harder, thunder fang is to hit gyrados harder(i know it wont survive waterfall but it is it's only defense against waters excluding swampert) Intimidate helps too.

Arcanine isn't really a very good sweeper IMO. There was a bulky arcanine set on smogon somebody linked me to a few days ago and it looks as though it would be effective.

If you do want to sweep with this, sub + Flare Blitz (as well as SR) is going to kill Arcanine really fast, so I wouldn't use Substitute.


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Relaxed
252 Hp/252 Def/ 4 sp. Atk

Flamethrower
Thunderbolt
Will-o-Wisp
Pain Split

Defensive wall. He liked to switch around explosion and pain split...with split it lasted longer, with explosion he usually got rid of what he wanted to...just sacrificing his main physical defense.

Definitely use Pain Split here. Weezing needs to stay alive.

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Hasty
252 Speed/ 252 Sp. Atk/ 4 Hp

Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Ice
Explosion
Taunt

A specs user with Taunt isn't as bad as it seems. Most of the time when a switch is predicted he used it on something that really can set up on him...such as mence. Specs is here to cover his low Sp. atk, it still isn't perfect but hey. He got lucky with breeding and caught HP Ice, which helps to destroy Dragons. T-bolt is obvious...

Electrode is terrible, even in UUs and stuff. I would replace this for something that can do more for your team.

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Jolly
252 Speed/ 252 Attack/ 4 Hp

Leaf Blade
Dragon Claw
X-Scissor
Earthquake

Ev spreads are getting pretty simple huh? lol. Anyway, here's his physical sweeper, i think this hits about everything for neutral and has lots of coverage so he put expert belt here.

Needs Swords Dance in there somewhere, or it won't be doing much damage. Also, Life Orb is probably going to be more useful than Expert Belt.

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Careful
Thick Fat
252 Hp/ 252 Sp. atk/ 4 Atk.

Crunch
Body Slam
Rest
Sleep Talk

Standard...

Snorlax beat anorexia!

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Impish
Technician
252 Hp/ 144 Def./ 108 Atk

Swords Dance
Brick Break
Night Slash
Baton Pass

His Passer. Swords Dances to Arcanine and Sceppy, sometimes even Snorlax!(hey, body slam on lax is beastly...) Brick Break and night slash to attack back. +22 attack lets him hit 381 without a + nature, he doesnt need it, he sword dances and supports really.

This is combining two sets (the SD Technician sweeper and the BPer) and I doubt it would actually work. I'd either run the Quick Attack/SD/LO/Technician late-game sweeper (and it's really good, I'll tell you that much) or the SD passer (which really would help sceptile and especially arcanine, however I don't know if it's totally necessary).

Well, thats his team...any criticism is welcome.
Considering you're using pokemon that are generally outclassed by others, I actually really like this team. However, you do have trouble against the physical sweepers Weezing doesn't cover (most notably DDers like Tyranitar and Dragonite, and of course the infamous Garchomp). Over Electrode, I would put in either a solid wall to take them out. I urge you to use Cresselia, as it also counters MixApe who you're quite weak to. It just stabilizes your team a lot.
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Old July 28th, 2008 (11:29 PM).
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Considering you're using pokemon that are generally outclassed by others, I actually really like this team. However, you do have trouble against the physical sweepers Weezing doesn't cover (most notably DDers like Tyranitar and Dragonite, and of course the infamous Garchomp). Over Electrode, I would put in either a solid wall to take them out. I urge you to use Cresselia, as it also counters MixApe who you're quite weak to. It just stabilizes your team a lot.
Thanks anti.

Well i know he was weak to DD'ers but like i said in the description he ALWAYS predicted a switch and taunted with trode...his prediction was amazing. Oh and i forgot i said the movesets werent the same because im trying to re-create what his team was.

I know his team is awkward, and i know it's random, but see...that's what made the team so great. The creativity he put behind it really dazzled me, and he didnt care about what was *UU* *BL* it was just *Pokemon* to him...and that's what it should be...Pokemon...but it's not...but when he was around...it sure seemed that way...

Scizor IS weird....but he had 2 attacks to fight back with in case he couldnt BP safely or whatever. He never used quick attack, i should deffinately put that in. TBH it did work against the right switch in...took weavile on pretty well...

If i switch the scizor set to a full attacking technician one...then do you suggest i switch around arc and scep too with SD action or whatever?
 

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