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Umm, can a Mold Breaker Rampardos hurt Shedinja, even though the attack is not super effective?
Yes it can, but rampardos isnt very keen on being hit on his teeney defences by a poke that almost always carries swords dance and priority moves. However it is enough to phaze in some cases, and defiantely leaves Shedinja vulnerable should you be carrying a sash.
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Old August 16th, 2008 (7:17 AM).
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A Focus Sashed/Rock polish Rampardos works just fine against shedinja
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2 consecutive-STABed-SD boosted-prioritised Shadow sneaks suggest the contrary.
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Old August 16th, 2008 (7:21 AM).
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But While the shedinja does its first shadow sneek I would just crunch, Rampardos also works on Sandstorm teams so it would not have the Focus Sash to keep it alive.
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But While the shedinja does its first shadow sneek I would just crunch, Rampardos also works on Sandstorm teams so it would not have the Focus Sash to keep it alive.
It depends on who is in first:
1.Shedinja uses SD
Rampardo Switches in
2.Shedinja use Shadow Sneak
(Rampardos Loses Sash)
2.Rampardos uses Crunch
(Shedinja Loses Sash)
3.Shedinja uses Shadow Sneak
Rampardos Faints

Or....

1.Rampardos uses Rock Polish
Shedinja switches in
2.Rampardos uses Crunch
(Shedinja loses sash)
Shedija uses SD
3.Shedinja Uses Shadow Sneak
(Rampardos Loses Sash)
Rampardos uses Crunch
Shedinja faints

So if shedinja's in first, he has the advantage, and vice versa. Saying that I havent run the calcs, so shedinja may be able to 2HOKO without an SD boost, in which shedinja is in an even better situation. Either way both pose a danger to each other =]
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Sandstorm would already be in play though. You completely ignored that in your analysis so re do!
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There are no sandstorm starters in UU, which is the only place both of these pokes would come up against each other. If we are hypothesising that this is OU then shedinja has a lot more to worry about than crappy old rampardos.
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Sure but not all people tier battle. What ever makes you feel best.
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Sure but not all people tier battle. What ever makes you feel best.
Meh, if it's not tiered then it isnt competetive, where there are no standards and you're likely to come up against every which Uber and NU. It's not a predictable environment so it's pointless trying to theorise any situation.
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It can still be standard no Ubers. Thats how I play anyway because UU pokemon are under estimamated and if used right can still keep up with OU pokemon, Im sure you know this but this convo is over now.
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Player A has Rampardos
Player B has Shedinja

Shedinja used Swords Dance!
Rampardos is fast asleep!
Player A switches out Rampardos for Sharpedo!
Shedinja used Shadow Sneak!
It's not very effective...
Shedinja takes 1 damage from Sharpedo's Rough Skin!
Shedinja fainted!

That is what really happened.
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Thatll work too! Thanks, shoulda thought of that.
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