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Old August 2nd, 2008 (11:53 PM).
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In this link I have provided are tools and plugins probably none of you will take advantage of for over a year to come. I have linked 2 other people, so now i'm thinking it'll get leaked anyway so what the hell.


Have fun trying to figure it out all(If you're really dense you can use this to import new maps and other ****)

No questions will be answered, but amuse me.


The link is real.

lol zip archive
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (5:23 AM).
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In one of the PDFs:
These coded instructions, statements, and computer programs contain proprietary
information of Nintendo of America Inc. and/or Nintendo Company Ltd., and are
protected by Federal copyright law. They may not be disclosed to third parties or
copied or duplicated in any form, in whole or in part, without the prior written consent
of Nintendo.

It also mentions the word "Confidential" in many places.

I think this is illegal.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (9:17 AM).
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So is your ROM lol
and mid2AGB so don't go complaining about legality.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (10:54 AM).
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And looks like the moderators don't mind.. as they approved the thread.
Heh.. you gave this (and more :D) to me yesterday.. thanks :p
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (11:51 AM).
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So is your ROM lol
and mid2AGB so don't go complaining about legality.
1. I own the actual cartridge that the ROM corresponds to.
2. I don't have mid2agb.

Also, isn't posting a ROM or Mid2AGB against forum rules?
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (11:53 AM).
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Well you obviously don't understand emulation, it's legal to own a back up copy of your own game, that you dumped yourself, however a copier to back up your game is illegal, and I doubt you dumped each and every single one of your ROMs.


Now shut up and accept the tools,
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it's legal to own a back up copy ... a copier to back up your game is illegal
How does that work?? How can the tool be illegal if the result isn't?
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (12:06 PM).
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Copied from Nintendo's site
Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?

There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he/she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.

Are Game Copying Devices Illegal?

Yes. Game copiers that are used to copy video game software without authorization onto any type of memory device or the hard drive of a personal computer are illegal. They enable the user to make, play and distribute illegal copies of video game software which violates Nintendo's copyrights and trademarks. These devices also allow for the uploading and downloading of ROMs to and from the Internet. Based upon the functions of these devices, they are illegal.


and btw, I never linked to any ROMs. ;)

I've been doing this since you were a child doing basic arithmetic in school, don't try me.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (12:56 PM).
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Based upon the functions of these devices, they are illegal.
Meaning that backups (what the function DOES) are also illegal in this case.

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and btw, I never linked to any ROMs. ;)
I didn't say you did. I was likening it to other questionable-legality material not allowed on this site.

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Age?
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (12:58 PM).
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Everyone knows Nintendo's piracy FAQ is FUD. They do say a lot of technically correct things, with the one exception being that ROM backer-uppers are illegal -- in the US they're not illegal to own or use, only to import. However, a couple decades ago a court did rule that Atari backup devices had no redeeming non-piracy use, but more recently a judge said it's legal to backup data from ROM chips if the purpose is to reverse-engineer. ROM backups are technically "sort of" legal and definitely a very, very gray area.

Of course, in practice ROM hacking is illegal because nobody actually backs up their original hardware. Plus if there's any form of copy-protection, making a backup of it is always illegal thanks to the DMCA.


Whatever, illegal ain't necessary unethical!
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:00 PM).
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Whatever, illegal ain't necessary unethical!
Which means that only the police force wouldn't like to see my hard drive :D (It's not the ROMs, it's the "specially broken" programs)
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:32 PM).
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I'm 18, and i've been ROM hacking, and programming since I was 12. Happy now?

Just enjoy what's in the zip and stop *****ing.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:36 PM).
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I'm 18, and i've been ROM hacking, and programming since I was 12. Happy now?

Just enjoy what's in the zip and stop *****ing.
I'm 15 and I've been rom hacking for about 3 years, and programming since I was 7.
I was happy anyway.
I'm not Dogging, I'm just saying that it could be illegal, and thus not very good for the forums.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:44 PM).
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Old August 4th, 2008 (4:19 AM).
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how to use that???????????
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Old August 4th, 2008 (7:49 AM).
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Don't ask :). If you you were smart you would have read the manuals and some other stuff :)...
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how to use that???????????
There's a reason there's a load of documentation with it.
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Old August 7th, 2008 (1:57 PM).
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Let's put it this way, if you've downloaded a DP rom, a GBA generation rom or a GBC rom or any tools for hacking them, you can't complain to somebody about if what they're offering is legal or not. End of discussion.
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Let's put it this way, if you've downloaded a DP rom, a GBA generation rom or a GBC rom or any tools for hacking them, you can't complain to somebody about if what they're offering is legal or not. End of discussion.
But since said illegal ROMs are forbidden on this site, why is this illegal document/toolset not forbidden on this site?
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Old August 8th, 2008 (8:26 AM).
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But since said illegal ROMs are forbidden on this site, why is this illegal document/toolset not forbidden on this site?
Because this stuff is just that cool.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (11:13 AM).
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But since said illegal ROMs are forbidden on this site, why is this illegal document/toolset not forbidden on this site?
We might as well ask why the Rom Hacking Forum is permitted. You show Nintendo that and they'd surely Cease and Desist in a second. "But Nintendo we're downloading tools that were made by fans!" and Nintendo would say "Don't care, hacking our games is illegal". So none of the tools and documents on this site are really legal, so should we take them all down? No. My thing is, until a Nintendo executive sends the admins a Cease and Desist order for tools, any tool is fair game for this forum. And don't get the idea that just because the tool wasn't made by Nintendo it's legal, that's not true at all. Infact, the whole art of modifying a game is illegal.
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Infact, the whole art of modifying a game is illegal.
Is it really? I doubt that.
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Is it really? I doubt that.
Well look at it this way. Pokemon is copyright Nintendo. The only reason Nintendo of America can translate, distribute and modify the Pokemon games is because they have a license to do it. This goes for online games and everything else. Modifying the product is breaking the copyright. This is why Microsoft bans anyone from X-Box Live who modifies the 360. If modding was legal, they wouldn't give a crap. The only way modifying a game is legal is if you have a license from Nintendo to do it. Otherwise it's illegal and if someone who worked for Nintendo found out you were doing it, you could get sued.
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No. The reason that Microsoft will ban modders is because it's against the Xbox LIVE terms of service. Modifying is perfectly legal, but distributing modified roms is illegal, and that's what you need a license for, not to modify the rom itself.
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No. The reason that Microsoft will ban modders is because it's against the Xbox LIVE terms of service. Modifying is perfectly legal, but distributing modified roms is illegal, and that's what you need a license for, not to modify the rom itself.
Which is why we have a file format called IPS... Else you could make an aplication!
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