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Old August 3rd, 2008 (12:51 AM).
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First up I made this Shoddy team with the help of Vance and .tRUTH so i think it is fairly good. Please help and rate thanks.

Blissey @Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 42HP/216ATK/252DEF
Moveset- Toxic
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

Tyranitar @Choice Band
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 252/HP/252ATK/6SP
Moveset- Stone Edge
Earthquake
Pursuit
Crunch

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 186 HP/252ATK/70DEF
Moveset- Ice Beam
Surf
Wish
HP ( Electric )

Weezing @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 252HP/252ATK/6SpA
Moveset- Haze
Will-O-Wisp
Flamethrower
Pain Split

Lucario @ Adamant Orb
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
Moveset- Close Combat
Crunch
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance

Raikou @ Leftovers
Nature- Timid
EVs- 6HP/252SP/252SpA
Moveset- Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
HP ( Ice )
Substitute
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:15 AM).
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First up I made this Shoddy team with the help of Vance and .tRUTH so i think it is fairly good. Please help and rate thanks.

Blissey @Leftovers
Nature- Calm
EVs- 42HP/216 Sp.Def/252DEF
Moveset- Toxic
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

Attack on Blissey =/.

Tyranitar @Choice Band
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 188HP/252ATK/72SPeed
Moveset- Stone Edge
Earthquake
Pursuit
Crunch

Use 72 speed evs, IIRC this beats min skarmorys speed so it cant roost and stall you out of stone edges.


Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 186 HP/252Def/70Sp.Def
Moveset- Ice Beam
Surf
Wish
HP ( Electric )

Attack evs ? =/.

Weezing @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 252HP/252Def/6SpA
Moveset
Taunt
Will-O-Wisp
Flamethrower / Sludge Bomb
Pain Split

Attack evs ? =/. I prefer Taunt >Haze, it stops stuff setting up on weezing and i just generally find it more helpful, especially against stuff like sub seed breloom.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
Moveset- Close Combat
Crunch
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance

adamant Orb ? Life Orb you mean.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Nature- Timid
EVs- 64 HP / 96 Sp.A / 96 Sp.D / 252 Speed
Moveset- Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
HP ( Ice )
Substitute

Blegh ev spread.
Comments in bold.

Yeah...pretty much.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:18 AM).
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Ok thanks. I accidentally mixed blissey's attack and HP around. Blissey is supposed to be this

Blissey @Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 216HP/42ATK/252DEF
Moveset- Toxic
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:25 AM).
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Ok thanks. I accidentally mixed blissey's attack and HP around. Blissey is supposed to be this

Blissey @Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 216HP/42ATK/252DEF
Moveset- Toxic
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Blissey doesnt need ANY attack =/


Read my previous post.
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WHY does it need attack? Seismic Toss already does a set 100 damage. Give it no attack EV's.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:36 AM).
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Thats what everyone says so i guess i will give it SpDef then. Is that the best place to put it? Also i was thinking if i went for Blissey's EVs i would go

252HP/252DEF/6SpDef

Also D_A if i gave Weezing Taunt wouldn't both TTar and Weezing have taunt? What's the point in that

*Edit D_A with TTar his edited Evs ( By you ) would be 512. That isn't possible
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:42 AM).
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Thats what everyone says so i guess i will give it SpDef then. Is that the best place to put it? Also i was thinking if i went for Blissey's EVs i would go

252HP/252DEF/6SpDef

Also D_A if i gave Weezing Taunt wouldn't both TTar and Weezing have taunt? What's the point in that

*Edit D_A with TTar his edited Evs ( By you ) would be 512. That isn't possible
Remove 2 from hp then.

How can Tar have taunt, it has a choice band ,,,

252 DEF / 216 Sp.DEF / 40 HP @Calm nature on Blissey.
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (1:53 AM).
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He doesn't i forgot it had Choice Band until i looked at it. Well this is the team now so please tell me if it is improved


Blissey @Leftovers
Nature- Calm
EVs- 252HP/6SpD/252DEF
Moveset- Toxic
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

Tyranitar @Choice Band
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 188/HP/252ATK/70SP
Moveset- Stone Edge
Earthquake
Pursuit
Crunch

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 188 HP/252ATK/70SP
Moveset- Ice Beam
Surf
Wish
HP ( Electric )

Weezing @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 252HP/252DEF/6SpA
Moveset- Haze
Will-O-Wisp
Flamethrower
Pain Split

Lucario @ Life Orb
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
Moveset- Close Combat
Crunch
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance

Raikou @ Leftovers
Nature- Timid
EVs- 64HP/252SP/96SpA/96SpD
Moveset- Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
HP ( Ice )
Substitute

Is that any better
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Old August 3rd, 2008 (11:54 PM).
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Blisey: 40 HP, 252 DEF, 216 Sp.Def

WHy does Vaporean have attack Ev's? Change those into Sp.Attk
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trainerelite switched in Medicham

Blissey used Protect.

Blissey protected itself!

Medicham used Hi Jump Kick.

Blissey protected itself!

Medicham kept going and crashed!

Medicham lost 100% of its health.

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Old August 4th, 2008 (12:08 AM).
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Blissey doesn't need that much SpD as she can survive most attacks with her massive HP anyway. And she also has Softboiled in case it hurts her a bit. I think my Blissey is now fine as The Postman has helped me with my Blissey. I will change Vaporeon into as follows.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 186 HP/252Def/70Sp.Def
Moveset- Ice Beam
Surf
Wish
HP ( Electric )

As stated by D_A
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Old August 4th, 2008 (12:25 AM).
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First up I made this Shoddy team with the help of Vance and .tRUTH so i think it is fairly good. Please help and rate thanks.

Blissey @Leftovers
Nature- Calm
EVs- 40 HP, 252 Def, 216 Sp. Def
Moveset-
Toxic/Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss
Aromatherapy
Softboiled

Thunder Wave means you have some chance of stopping D-E , if you can predict correctly, just be careful your opponent doesn't switch Garchomp into it.

Tyranitar @Choice Band
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 188 HP, 252 Atk, 72 Spd
Moveset-
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Pursuit
Crunch

Meh, like D_A said, 72 spd please, so Skarm doesn't lol at you.

Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 188 HP/252 SP.ATK/68DEF
Moveset-
Ice Beam
Surf
Wish
HP ( Electric )

Ummm, yeah. It wants SP. ATK, not ATK.

Weezing @ Leftovers
Nature- Bold
EVs- 252 HP, 252 Def, 6 Sp Atk
Moveset-
Thunderbolt
Will-O-Wisp
Flamethrower
Pain Split

Thunderbolt for Gyarados, and it doesn't need any Sp. Atk, but I suppose you can chuck those 6 EV's there if you like.

Lucario @ Life Orb
Nature- Adamant
EVs- 6HP/252ATK/252SP
Moveset-
Close Combat
Crunch
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance

Life Orb, not Adamant Orb...

Raikou @ Leftovers
Nature- Timid
EVs- 64 HP, 192 Sp. Atk, 252 Spd
Moveset-
Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
HP GRASS
Substitute

This wants HP GRASS so Swampert doesn't come in and lol at you. That EV spread means maximum leftovers recovery, and also means you can have some shot at surviving long enough to CM up.
So yeah, edits in bold. I'm now holding a meeting with Vance and Itachi, to kick them in the backside...because this team is horrible, although not as bad as before. :S

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Old August 4th, 2008 (12:42 AM).
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Actually. I already have put Lucario as Life Orb if you actually bothered to check. And why is this all about the bads. I need good points to ya know. Most of these changes have already been done. And i don't need Weezing to know TBolt as i already have Raikou with TBolt. I will change Raikou to HP ( Grass) if it is necessary.
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Blissey doesn't need that much SpD
Actually she does. Specs boosted Aura Spheres, Focus blasts ect really tear holes out of blisseys with little SpDef investment. Her HP is large enough to carry her through without too much EV investment, but blissey really needs 252Def/216SpDef/[email protected]
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Old August 4th, 2008 (1:17 AM).
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Well. I didn't think of it that way Gofre. I guess your right but Focus Blast rarely shows up on Shoddy. I will give her the following

Blissey @Leftovers
Ability- Natural Cure
EVs- 252DEF/216SpD/40HP
Moveset- Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Toxic ( TWave never seems to work anyway ) and besides Garchomps are SPAWNED on Shoddy.
But are you sure about the HP?
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Old August 4th, 2008 (1:23 AM).
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Yes, that is the New Standard Blissey, make sure to give her a Calm nature,
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trainerelite switched in Medicham

Blissey used Protect.

Blissey protected itself!

Medicham used Hi Jump Kick.

Blissey protected itself!

Medicham kept going and crashed!

Medicham lost 100% of its health.

BobberyJo Wins!
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She has a calm nature. I have been trying new things out and have found out that Seismic Toss is never strong enough to OHKO a normal type for me xD. O well
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Old August 4th, 2008 (1:31 AM).
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Focus Blast rarely shows up on Shoddy
If you don't think focus blast is common, you've been lucky enough not to come across gengar- The second most used poke on the program (Source: Shoddy's Usage Statistics for June), or just avoided standard variants of it. Lucario also hits high at number 7, meaning aura sphere is a big thread.40 HP is enough, just don't question the standards ;)

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Seismic Toss is never strong enough
Blissey without seismic toss is epic fail. It needs a consistant source of damage, and seismic toss provides that. You will get laughed at if you use blissey without it.
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She has a calm nature. I have been trying new things out and have found out that Seismic Toss is never strong enough to OHKO a normal type for me xD. O well
Well Blissey won't be OHKOing things, even Shuckle lol. It just wears stuff down and prevents it from getting stalled really badly.
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Old August 4th, 2008 (1:41 AM).
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I would hope so. I thought something was wrong with my Blissey. But she is fine. I was wondering if Blissey could have any movesets that would OHKO anything at all?
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Old August 4th, 2008 (1:46 AM).
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I would hope so. I thought something was wrong with my Blissey. But she is fine. I was wondering if Blissey could have any movesets that would OHKO anything at all?
Well Blissey isn't supposed to OHKO things because she isn't supposed to OHKO things. Her offense is that of a snail, but you shouldn't worry about it as it doesn't matter at all.
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Wow i like the.....way you described Blissey then. Like a snail? wow then i guess i don't need to worry. her offense is crap but her defense is that of a brick wall.
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Ummm, Seismic Toss always does 100 HP damage, it doesn't change, and isn't effected by typing...>_>

Seriously though, you need to learn some things. Usually, when you make changes, you edit the front post, because that is where people look. Also, if you cannot handle critisism, don't post a RMT. If you're asking for only positive feedback, then most certainly you won't get a decent rate.

Gengar is one of the most common pokemon on Shoddy, and almost every set runs Focus Blast, so your point there is mute. (It also means without T-Wave, you don't wall Gengar at all, as you can do nothing in return to it)

lol, don't need Weezing with Thunderbolt? Having one pokemon with Thunderbolt doesn't mean you can't run it on another pokemon. Weezing is meant to wall Gyarados, but if you can't defeat it, it'll simply Taunt in your face then DD up. Besides, after a DD, Gyarados outspeeds and OHKO's Raikou with Earthquake.

Please, study up before trying to build another team, and don't offend the people who are trying to help you, especially when they know what they are talking about, and you don't seem to just yet...

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Ok. Whatever, By the way TS i am new to this so yea maybe you could understand that i don't know everything just like you?

But i appreciate the help you give me and everything xD and i know Seismic Toss always does 100 damage, i never said it didn't. And i can handle critisim is just i need positive feed back as well so i can see what i am doing good. Not just all do this and that, And i know gengar is one of the most common pokemon on Shoddy as i have ran into more than 20 of them with FB.

And how did i offend you? what did i say? please answer that question.

And also as an edit i have given Weezing TBolt as i figured Raikou is easily killed with an EQ and Weezing isn't even affected.
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