Our World Today: Better or Worse? Page 3

Started by Sheruda Kachinuki August 6th, 2008 8:38 PM
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That was off-topic xD

And also i didn't do anything to be reported, the mods won't care, i haven't done anything xD

It was said in some kind of article that the sun will blow up and become a dark hole kind of thing xD i wonder if it is true?
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Yes, when the sun has expended all of its energy it will collapse inwards on itself and become a white dwarf- But before that it will become a red giant. In about a billion years the sun's temperature will have increased to the point that the earth is no longer hospitable, so we don't need to worry about running out of heat :)
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Yes, and i am trying to get through the fact that we should be finding a way to either give the planet a shield against the heat, and/or for when the sun blows up they can make an Artificial sun xD
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Yes, and i am trying to get through the fact that we should be finding a way to either give the planet a shield against the heat, and/or for when the sun blows up they can make an Artificial sun xD
I'm sorry, but both of those are terrible ideas. First off, it is physically impossible to defend against the heat, it just cannot be done. And even if it can be done, humanity will die out anyway. Perpetual darkness means no plants, which equals a huge dip in food and oxygen source. It also mean we have nothing providing the earth with heat, it would freeze over straight away.

Next off, I really hope you're joking when you said an artificial sun. I don't know if this gets taught nowadays, but look at the scale:

There is no way in hell that humans could bring together enough energy to create anything close to a sun.

So basically, there is no way humanity is going to survive this. All we can do is survive in the meantime, and hope some scientific breakthrough comes about to transport any number of use to a less ill-fated galaxy. We have a few million years yet, so it's all good =]
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By that time (1 billion years) I'm sure mankind will have the technology to colonise other galaxies and move away from Earth to settle elsewhere, possibly even creating a Human Empire that spans galaxies. Sounds sci-fi, but it could happen. This also draws me to Smith's analogy on humans in "The Matrix":

I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague.

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By that time (1 billion years) I'm sure mankind will have the technology to colonise other galaxies and move away from Earth to settle elsewhere, possibly even creating a Human Empire that spans galaxies. Sounds sci-fi, but it could happen. This also draws me to Smith's analogy on humans in "The Matrix":
Except viruses aren't organisms.
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The planet is doomed no matter what, and by 1 billion years you can't say ANYTHING yet Gofre because in 1 billion years we could have made technology to do stuff like this xD
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The planet is doomed no matter what, and by 1 billion years you can't say ANYTHING yet Gofre because in 1 billion years we could have made technology to do stuff like this xD
The technology is going to be used to create a nuclear war and prematurely end the world as we know it.
Of course, it's too soon to say.

I thought this was a thread about the present, not speculating over the future.
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I agree, lets stay on topic here. Today i went out on run with my dog and i found a group of "gangster" guys drinking booze and throwing their bottles on the ground xD

The world will end sooner than 1 billion years if this keeps up xD
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lol @ this thread.

~E_M_Y~, unless you have some intelligent reason to say that humans are going to die in 100 years, don't say we will.

It is a fact that according to thermodynamics we will eventually die out. However, that is according to the law of thermodynamics, we don't know exactly what our technology will be in the very distant future so you never know. (We could bypass the law somehow or travel between universes, etc., that would be cool :P)

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We appear to spending lots more on old people who are going to die soon anyway. Of course, what's worth investing in is subjective, but you can see that NASA really doesn't get that much money, compared to other industries and programs that don't involve rockets.

Also, we're not trying to expand to more planets because of a black hole or that our sun will eventually go supernova: Earth only has so many resources and so much area for people (as well as animals and plants) to live in. Unless we want to start looking like Brazil and build shoddy buildings on top of each other.
The Sun cannot go nova because it does not have enough mass. In about 6 billion years, it would reach its final stage of evolution as a white dwarf whose mass is prevented from gravitation collapse by electron degeneracy pressure. The sun's mass is below the Chandrashhar limit where a given body cannot be supported by electron degeneracy pressure.
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Once again, we're discussing the state of the present, not speculating as to our untimely demise.
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This thread is already full of ignorant, biased, uncredible and just plain silly replies.

Here's a nice fact about lifespans:
The following information is derived from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, 1961, as well as other sources- wikipedia has the sources, do your own damn research:

Humans by Era Average Lifespan at Birth
(years)

  • Neanderthal 20
  • Upper Paleolithic 33
  • Neolithic 20
  • Bronze Age 18
  • Classical Greece 20-30
  • Classical Rome 20-30
  • Pre-Columbian North America 25-35
  • Medieval Britain 20-30
  • Early 20th Century 30-40
  • Current world average 66.12 (2008 est.)

> Pollution, rising crime rates, inflation, overpricing, and even the destruction of nature---
are these factors prove that our world, IS NOT THE WAY IT SEEMS TO BE?
Whilst these are all effects caused by humans, has the world ever been better naturally? What period are you comparing them too?

There have been multiple mass extinction events, such as KT, Ice Age, PT all of which caused massive amounts of natural destruction and change. As well as changes in the atmosphere content, far worse than any level of pollution today.
Concepts of inflation and overpricing only apply to humans, of which they have existed for centuries. This isn't evidence of the world worsening.

We live in the present, comparing it too what's in the past is pointless. Deal with it and enjoy it while you can, because you won't be here for long. ¬_¬
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"Seeing then that all these things are to be dissolved, what manner of people ought you to be in holy conversation and godliness? Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of the Lord, by which the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with the burning heat? But we look for new heavens and a new earth according to his promises, in which justice dwelleth." (2 Peter 3:11-13)

Yes, when the sun has expended all of its energy it will collapse inwards on itself and become a white dwarf- But before that it will become a red giant. In about a billion years the sun's temperature will have increased to the point that the earth is no longer hospitable, so we don't need to worry about running out of heat :)
No, just not this again...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=890540231386036127&ei=u1KxSN-sLpCuigK0zv3hDA&q=Creation+and+Miracles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R28GP-FsAYI
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v18/i4/dinosaurs.asp
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v19/i4/blood.asp
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Fresh tissue, according to Jurrasic park, could only last for 7000 years, not 70,000,000 years!
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Couldn't watch it further than two minutes because it was so godawful.

I would also like to know what's the theory behind claiming humankind will die in hundred years.
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"Seeing then that all these things are to be dissolved, what manner of people ought you to be in holy conversation and godliness? Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of the Lord, by which blah blah blah blah[/B]
That's not science. That's religion. Observe the upcoming diagram and then try to contribute something that actually makes sense and is logical.
Spoiler:


Also the links you provided are all absurd and biased. No credible scientist believes earth to have homed 10,000 million+ species within 6000 years, nor is 'Jurassic Park' a scientific documentary.
Before using your beliefs to overthrow scientific understanding why not actually educate yourself on the matter beforehand?
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That's not science. That's religion. Observe the upcoming diagram and then try to contribute something that actually makes sense and is logical.
Spoiler:


Also the links you provided are all absurd and biased. No credible scientist believes earth to have homed 10,000 million+ species within 6000 years, nor is 'Jurassic Park' a scientific documentary.
Before using your beliefs to overthrow scientific understanding why not actually educate yourself on the matter beforehand?
Have you even bothered looking at the links I supplied? Oh, I should be more specific? Here you go:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0325Dino_tissue.asp
When Schweitzer first found what appeared to be blood cells in a T. Rex specimen, she said, “It was exactly like looking at a slice of modern bone. But, of course, I couldn’t believe it. I said to the lab technician: “The bones, after all, are 65 million years old. How could blood cells survive that long?’”6 Notice that her first reaction was to question the evidence, not the paradigm. That is in a way quite understandable and human, and is how science works in reality (though when creationists do that, it’s caricatured as non-scientific).
Oh, and "absurd and biased" is the easiest way to shack off things. Did you even bother looking at least on one link entirely?
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Have you even bothered looking at the links I supplied? Oh, I should be more specific? Here you go:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0325Dino_tissue.asp
Obviously (and thankfully I'm glad to say) you're not a scientist. Under certain conditions, low temp, low O2 etc, a tissue can be preserved so that cells can survive for virtually billions of years. Said conditions are rare, but possible (e.g ice ages and the effects of peat and amber) and as carbon dating has proven are not limited to "thousands" of years.
If you look at the same article from a more respectable & credible News Website then it says nothing about it being 'proof of a young earth', of which it isn't, just the impressive ability of the preservation and how the tissue can be used for scientific understanding and research on the prehistoric species.

Oh, and "absurd and biased" is the easiest way to shack off things. Did you even bother looking at least on one link entirely?
Well you posted links to a Creationist website, yes that is very biased, as are selected videos of Youtube & Google Video. And yes the concept of creationism is arguably absurd to a scientific or common-sensual community.
Did you even bother looking at a News website/Encyclopedia/Science book before abusing this thread in a cheap ploy to promote your religious beliefs? Seriously, do some actual scientific research rather than ignoring it.

Also your failed attempt to show the earth as being 4.53billion years younger than it actually is, has caused this thread to go off-topic. Congratulations.
Ad hominem is for n00bs. Make good points.

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