Our World Today: Better or Worse? Page 4

Started by Sheruda Kachinuki August 6th, 2008 8:38 PM
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Age 32
On an iceberg
Seen February 25th, 2009
Posted February 24th, 2009
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Obviously (and thankfully I'm glad to say) you're not a scientist. Under certain conditions, low temp, low O2 etc, a tissue can be preserved so that cells can survive for virtually billions of years. Said conditions are rare, but possible (e.g ice ages and the effects of peat and amber) and as carbon dating has proven are not limited to "thousands" of years.
If you look at the same article from a more respectable & credible News Website then it says nothing about it being 'proof of a young earth', of which it isn't, just the impressive ability of the preservation and how the tissue can be used for scientific understanding and research on the prehistoric species.
So how come the "scientists" themselfs were suprised? Scientists were suprised to discover mammoths buried under deep ice in Siberia, whom they date to be 20,000 years old. That suprised them as well.
Just to let you know-scientists don't call themselfs just "scientists". They call themselfs by their expertise. Science is such a broad turm it is almost meaningless. But, of couse, it makes you feel better as they are scientists". Take that to your account.
Well you posted links to a Creationist website, yes that is very biased, as are selected videos of Youtube & Google Video. And yes the concept of creationism is arguably absurd to a scientific or common-sensual community.
I can ignore your claims as well. That's not the way to make a consideration.
"Did you even bother looking at a News website/Encyclopedia/Science book before abusing this thread in a cheap ploy to promote your religious beliefs? Seriously, do some actual scientific research rather than ignoring it."
Of course, I learned astronomy when I was 9 with the aged folks at Astronomy advocates here in Israel.
Again, just "science", such a broad term.
Also your failed attempt to show the earth as being 4.53billion years younger than it actually is, has caused this thread to go off-topic. Congratulations.
Falied? I would like to see how you disprove this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R28GP-FsAYI
Again, a "scientist".
Seen September 8th, 2008
Posted September 8th, 2008
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Falied? I would like to see how you disprove this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R28GP-FsAYI
Again, a "scientist".
I don't see what radiation has to do with evolution. It might say somewhere in the video, but my attention span is much too small to focus on on rocks. Please enlighten me.
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Posted August 22nd, 2009
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So how come the "scientists" themselfs were suprised? Scientists were suprised to discover mammoths buried under deep ice in Siberia, whom they date to be 20,000 years old. That suprised them as well.
Wow, you know vaguely what 'surprised' means.
Anyone would be surprised if they were to stumble upon a rare event, it's not everyday a Cretacious relic is unearthed with soft tissue in. What's your point?
I would be 'surprised' if somebody parachuted into my bedroom, I would be 'surprised' if I unearthed my own fossil, etc. Discovering something unexpected that doesn't make anything less impossible.

No-one besides the annoyingly condescending creationist author in your article claim it to be less than its real age. Carbon dating is reliable enough to support this. Preservation of ancient matter happens, this is just another example of religion being selective about scientific evidence, distorting it to their own desire and then ignoring the mass contradicting bits.

Just to let you know-scientists don't call themselfs just "scientists". They call themselfs by their expertise. Science is such a broad turm it is almost meaningless. But, of couse, it makes you feel better as they are scientists". Take that to your account.
Reading the below would probably benefit your IQ.
Spoiler:
Science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge" or "to know") is the effort to discover, and increase human understanding of how the physical world works. Through controlled methods, scientists use observable physical evidence of natural phenomena to collect data, and analyze this information to explain what and how things work. Such methods include experimentation that tries to simulate natural phenomena under controlled conditions and thought experiments. Knowledge in science is gained through research.

Scientists use extensive experiments, observation and make logical deductions based on evidence to find out truth. A 1500year old book and its stories, do not account for any of these no matter how hard you believe in it.

Science is such a broad turm it is almost meaningless. But, of couse, it makes you feel better as they are scientists". Take that to your account.
Science is not a broad term (or 'turm' lol), it is a broad subject. If I reluctanctly point you towards a dictionary definition again, its ideal and terms are quite straightforward. The aim is to discover and gain understanding of the world around us. If you hadn't thought it earlier, there is a lot about the world to discover and understand. Take that to your account.
Also how is it meaningless? Don't even get me started on the arrogance and stupidity behind your pathetic one-liner.

Of course, I learned astronomy when I was 9 with the aged folks at Astronomy advocates here in Israel.
Again, just "science", such a broad term.
And I got a Nobel Prize when I was 7.
You clearly didn't learn much if you think the entire galaxy was fashioned on a supernatural whim a few thousands of years ago. Sorry for stating the obvious; that's not science, that's a fantasy.
There's so much evidence to support the cosmos' real age; carbon dating, geological movement, formation of types of rocks, fossil evidence, ancestral history, simulations, the speed of light in relation to other galaxies, even common sense - the list goes on.
Also, have some links of scientific, secular and unbiased evidence as well. I could arrogantly tell you to disprove all of those (like you said earlier), but it's pretty unlikely you're going to disprove a thing (let alone read them). At best, lazily post another Youtube link.

Falied? I would like to see how you disprove this:
Some lame video HAHA DISREGARD THAT
Again, a "scientist".
I don't see what evolution has to do with radiation from Polonium. Thanks for wasting my time on a pointless video.
Ironically Youtube is a largely secular community, it wouldn't be too difficult for me list hundreds of interesting links with rather compelling factual evidence and scientific basis (which you probably won't watch anyway).

Since you can't make up your own points and simply list links to cower behind and then whine when noone looks at them, I would highly recommend that you stop replying to prevent yourself from failing further, though feel free to angrily send me PMs.

Also you haven't posted a single comment related to the title of the thread - unfortunately skewering it painfully off quite an interesting topic.
Ad hominem is for n00bs. Make good points.

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Posted March 6th, 2009
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Yes, when the sun has expended all of its energy it will collapse inwards on itself and become a white dwarf- But before that it will become a red giant. In about a billion years the sun's temperature will have increased to the point that the earth is no longer hospitable, so we don't need to worry about running out of heat :)
I have another theory,the hydrogen that is fueling the Sun may run out one day.But its just a theory though..(Nice pic.)

Except viruses aren't organisms.
Yeah, their chemicals that act like living organisms

No it isnt. Can I have some reasoning please?
I just estimated that-Global Warming,Food shortage are the factors,etc.(If your taking the mass decrease of humans everywhere..)

lol @ this thread.

~E_M_Y~, unless you have some intelligent reason to say that humans are going to die in 100 years, don't say we will.

It is a fact that according to thermodynamics we will eventually die out. However, that is according to the law of thermodynamics, we don't know exactly what our technology will be in the very distant future so you never know. (We could bypass the law somehow or travel between universes, etc., that would be cool :P)
Im not saying we will its just an approximation!!


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I have another theory,the hydrogen that is fueling the Sun may run out one day.But its just a theory though..(Nice pic.)

That's not a different theory, it's the same one. The sun's surface is predominantly hydrogen, this was one of the energy sources that it uses.

I just estimated that-Global Warming,Food shortage are the factors,etc.(If your taking the mass decrease of humans everywhere..)

I think you need to research your factors before estimating anything. As I have told you (And provided evidence and figures), the situation of global warming has significantly improved in the majority of the world, with a host countires making a concious effort to minimise its effects. As with the food crisis, this is to do with price and inflation, and less to do with quantity. If it was really a case of food shortages there would be plans to instigate rationing ect, and as far as I'm aware this is also not a problem.
Oh and froslass- You can delete your own posts by licking the "edit" button, and choosing the option to delete.
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Posted November 6th, 2008
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Here's a better response of our world today: Who cares?
I don't think that's better at all. Because a lot of people care. And it would take a long time to talk about all of them. XD

I think the world is worse. I think our technology is driving the earth towards its ruin. I wish I lived back in North America before Europe invaded... Life was hard, but they didn't mind it.


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Life was hard, but they didn't mind it.
No, they minded a lot, haha. Marshland is not very friendly, after all.
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No, they minded a lot, haha. Marshland is not very friendly, after all.
If they didn't mind it so much, how come they wanted the Europeans gone? They just wanted their land back, and we took it from them... I feel so guilty about it. XD I'm told I should be Catholic. But that would be hard for me, I don't believe in Jesus x.x So I can't. =P But I really wish I could have been born a Native American. Heck, maybe I was in a past life. XP


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Here's a better response of our world today: Who cares?
The people posting in this thread care. If you're not here for discussion, go somewhere else.


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If they didn't mind it so much, how come they wanted the Europeans gone? They just wanted their land back, and we took it from them... I feel so guilty about it. XD I'm told I should be Catholic. But that would be hard for me, I don't believe in Jesus x.x So I can't. =P But I really wish I could have been born a Native American. Heck, maybe I was in a past life. XP
My school taught me about the horror of Colonial America.
Hardships = patriotism?
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Posted August 20th, 2009
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I believe the world has gotten better over the years, progress, tolerance, and open mindedness have generally risen up to levels untinkable in ancient times, and I believe the reason why people say the world has more problems than ever is because they know it does, this age of information brings it to us from everywhere, so it's not the fact that's worse, we jsut find out more of the bad things, but think about how it would have been in ancient times, if we knew every single crime, or bad news what was happening in the world, compared to today, it would be overwhelming.

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I believe the world has gotten better over the years, progress, tolerance, and open mindedness have generally risen up to levels untinkable in ancient times, and I believe the reason why people say the world has more problems than ever is because they know it does, this age of information brings it to us from everywhere, so it's not the fact that's worse, we jsut find out more of the bad things, but think about how it would have been in ancient times, if we knew every single crime, or bad news what was happening in the world, compared to today, it would be overwhelming.
That is true the world today is a better place than it was before. You have put in a nutshell my thoughts on why it is better. To be frank the degree of open mindedness today was unthinkable 60 years ago (We are within reach of a first AA USA Prez in History).
With the advent of the Internet and instant communication I'm "talking" to people from around the World through these forums from the US to Russia,England to Japan etc. The problem is that the technology we have is being abused, if we act more responsibly and more conscientiously we might be able to mitigate the mistakes done in the past.
About the Science vs. Religion discussion earlier I believe the observations science has given us (It is always ever changing) but I just can't make myself to abandon my religion because I've been brought up by a great Roman Catholic grandmother and cannot bring myself to believe that there is just nothingness in the afterlife.

Be an optimist (yet realist) and believe that things could always be better than it is Today. Start a grassroots effort to make people bring into focus the problems that plague our World Today (We are all in the same boat and in this together.) For our posterity and the future, The World IS a better place.
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Posted March 6th, 2009
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Here's a better response of our world today: Who cares?
Dude,did you wake up at the wrong side of the bed?
Were all gonna die in the near future.ITS A MATTER TO CARE ABOUT.Sheesh... these people are so carefree....


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They are obviously improving, the human error which barely repeats its mistakes again, will lessen but don't be so simple minded to think it will never stop.
Human errors, are one of the factors, too. I think you all see the things they are doing.
(Asura is right..)
Just like the illegal logging, dumping and even fishing.
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Posted September 10th, 2010
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Human errors, are one of the factors, too. I think you all see the things they are doing.
(Asura is right..)
Just like the illegal logging, dumping and even fishing.
Seriously, if they're your best examples of humanity's faults, you have some issues. Especially fishing, it's hardly the epitome of human destruction.
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Posted December 16th, 2008
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What a terrible excuse...
I couldn't bear to watch it because it was obviously made with feeble evidence, i.e. the black top of the mountain and the rock with the gap in the middle. You fail.

The one bad thing that could happen is if creationism pushes itself into schools and subsequently brings us to a new bronze age. But it seems like America is turning out for the better.
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Human faults? I think they must simply apply the proverb '' look before you leap '' because it would be better if they mind their actions.
The destruction of nature seems on-going.
I agree with megera, you cannot argue with hippies...
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Seen September 8th, 2008
Posted September 8th, 2008
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Anyway, on a more serious note, I agree with Gofre on that. How exactly is fishing causing destruction? o_o;
The companies that do mass fishing are rapidly depleting the numbers of fish before they have enough time to breed and replenish their numbers. This means less fish for species that we don't eat (dolphins, whales, sharks). Anyone know if it's possible to have fish farms? Or a really giant tank?