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Old August 8th, 2008 (11:28 AM).
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Do people still play the games for the fun of it besides me? It seems like now, It's all about IV's and EV's. I enjoy training whatever Pokes i want, with whatever nature i want, and train them without tracking(?) those stupid ev's.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (11:49 AM).
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I for one think I speak for the competetive community when I say that we genuinely find competetively training and battling just as fan as you find raising a team of your favorites. People play games for different reasons, some find the wifi battling far more exciting while other prefer more casual gaming or running through the story line. Its down to personal prefernce.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (11:52 AM).
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I agree completely with that and i dont have anything against it, i was just wonedering if anyone besides me still played it for the fun of it. Plus, i do like competitive battling. It fun.^__^
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That's my point exactly- We do battle competetively for the fun of it. It's just as much a part of pokemon as beating the gym leaders in my opinion.
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Old August 8th, 2008 (12:02 PM).
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what i was getting at though is the fact that it seems like Ev's and Iv's are diminishing the value of the game, funwise(?) of course. I have nothing against comepetitve battling or Ev training, it just feels like the game isnt so lighthearted and fun, its just work.
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For me right now it's about filling my dex as much as i can. Then if i'm not totally insane and sick of the sight of the thing i may try to get certain ones with specific qualities. Obviously I raise the chosen few as high as i can and aim to get very specific ones. But i'm not bothered about IV's and EV's right now but i can see their fascination for people. I never look at them. But i dont battle much.
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The fun factor is felt during your quest to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion. You might feel an exhilitration for some of the Legendary Pokemon side quests, but when your done with that, the excitement wines down.
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For some, IV and EV training adds alot to the game, and gives them a reason to keep playing. I've never bothered with that kind of Pokemon training, so I tend to feel lost when people go on about how their level 100 Pokemon is stronger than someone else's because they EV trained it or something.
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While I agree that IV breeding and EV training can be a long and sometimes painful process, it is better than the alternative. The alternative is never ever even getting close to winning because your Pkmn aren't up to scratch. Even if you get really good at battling, predicting, whatever, a Modest Garchomp will never get you anywhere.
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Do people still play the games for the fun of it besides me? It seems like now, It's all about IV's and EV's. I enjoy training whatever Pokes i want, with whatever nature i want, and train them without tracking(?) those stupid ev's.
I get where your comming from i was like that once too

but the only reason why i EV train is to give a decent battle ya'know

but my team is composed of mostly Under-Used pokemon

like golduck, bellosome, swellow, and ofcorse Manectric

but i prefer the original pokemon the frist 250+ with some of the R/S/E and very few of the D/P pokemon
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I play pokemon for the fun of it, and to train one of each evolutionary line to level 50. Well, at least the 150 in the Sinnoh Dex, anyway. So yeah, I just like catching different kinds of pokemon and doing the best I can with whatever stats it has. I have partially EV trained my Barboach, but I don't know if I'm going to follow through on that or not, as it's the first pokemon I've ever EV trained.
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Ev training i personaly don't do it but lots of other people do so I guess its for people who beat the game give them something to do
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i play pokemon just for the fun of it i mean im really goo at it know almost everything there is to know but i dont really much care about ev training becuase lifes to short to waste time bothering to do that even if it does make my team stronger
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What? IV EV training can't be fun? LOL
I still play them for fun.It's not as fun to play now than it was when I was nine because I'm alot smarter so it's to easy now, back then it seemed alot deeper and fun. I still love Pokemon because I loved it when I was young,know what I mean? Ah the good old days
The funnest moment I remember was when I got Diamond and watched the opening video,I felt like a little kid again

What? IV EV training can't be fun? LOL
I still play them for fun.It's not as fun to play now than it was when I was nine because I'm alot smarter so it's to easy now, back then it seemed alot deeper and fun. I still love Pokemon because I loved it when I was young,know what I mean? Ah the good old days
The funnest moment I remember was when I got Diamond and watched the opening video,I felt like a little kid again
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I know what you mean. I don't care if people want to do all these crazy things with natures and Es and Vs. If they want to cool. I think it's too much work. I really don't even see the point in battle tower. I don't want to battle people on these forums cuz I know I'd lose. I just love to catch 'em all. I follow the slogan. It takes mukch longer in this game cuz there are so many damn pokemon
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EV and IV training is more for the trainers who want to customize and design their own unique team. Some do it, others dont. It entirley depends on what you want out of the game, because besides, once you've completed the game and maybe obtained all the Pokemon, what else is there left to do? It can increase the longivity of the game and give it a purpose after the story.

I'm in the process of desiging my own Ev trained team, but it is my first attempt so its taking me a while. I'm hoping to EV train my favorites, that way at least I know they are the strongest I can make them and if I lose in battle itll be down to my choices. But it will feel great when I win my first battle with them ( if i ever do lol :P). Im not in it to be the best at battling, I'm not going to be a really competitive battler like that. I'm gonna battle for the sheer fun of it, while I secretly sjirachi at the sore winners I may come across ;)
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i play for fun because i cant be bothered with evs, ivs, or natures. Whats the point if u have a good team already.
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i agree too, i dont see the point in searching endlessly for a pokemon virtually identical to your own but with a different nature.
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As for me, being a competitive battler makes spending those few days/mins breeding and ev training worthwhile when I get to see my creation rip someone to shreds. I don't like losing quite personally so all that "useless" time spent pays off(with over time)
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Old August 9th, 2008 (4:59 AM). Edited August 9th, 2008 by Walrein.
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I use only my favorites. For example, my bulky-Water in Diamond will be Wailord, even thought it is probably the most discriminated Water-type ever. I would never use an OU pokemon I don't like, such as Dugtrio. It's simply ugly for me. And it's not so strong either. I falls to a single Ice Shard/Aqua Jet, what makes even it's speed useless.

But how does that constract with EV training? A "bad" pokemon who has a good set and was trained well will be much better then a "good" pokemon that has no strategy. Any player can staff 6 Ubers to his/hers team. The enitre beauty in the game is to defete stronger foes.

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"Strong Pokémon. Weak Pokémon. That is only the selfish perception of people. Truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favorites. I like your style. You understand what's important. Go on--the Champion is waiting."
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Although it is rather fun to have all of your favorites on the same team, i imagine it be quite difficult to win in competitive battles today.(And i throw six random sweepers in a battle all the time and i dont lose alot=/). Whats on your team is based on your goal is pretty much all need be said.
Favorites=for fun
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Junk=loss(most of the time)

As for the "pokemon arn't machines" rants if you love your pokemon you would want the best for them would you not? Then train them
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The fun factor is felt during your quest to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion. You might feel an exhilitration for some of the Legendary Pokemon side quests, but when your done with that, the excitement wines down.
That's my problem(?), the second I beat the Elite Four, unlock the National DEX.. thoughts of restarting come into my head instantaneously, I'm already thinking; "What if I had this Pokemon, or this, ETC."

Also, on topic: I don't really care about Nature's and IV's and EV's.. for it me it just seems to take the fun out of the game.
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I agree with Elete 4 Sam, I like pokemon cause it is fun and like ronan i don't care about the nature Ivs and evs altho I dont know wat ivs and evs are so i geuss i cant care.
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Like mystery said, some people (like me) think that the fun part of the game is going on wifi and dominating other people. Others enjoy training their favorites or completing the Dex, and that's fine too. It's all a matter of what you think is fun.
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a Modest Garchomp will never get you anywhere.
Ever heard of Chainchomp? Granted, it doesn't use Mdest nature (it uses Rash or Mild), but a Special attacking Garchomp can be useful, even if it's mainly for the surprise factor.

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The fun factor is felt during your quest to defeat the Elite Four and the Champion. You might feel an exhilitration for some of the Legendary Pokemon side quests, but when your done with that, the excitement wines down.
The story isn't the best part. When people say Pokémon games are kiddy, that's the part they're describing. The best part is probably battling against human opponents - do you know any other game with nearly 500 characters (each having their own strengths and weaknesses) which have a total over over 400 different moves (each with different effects)? Then, you have switching, and with that, predicting your opponent's moves so you can switch to something which resists them... It's a really challenging strategy game, not just an RPG.

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i dont really much care about ev training becuase lifes to short to waste time bothering to do that
It's way faster to EV one Pokémon than it is to level one to level 100... With the right equipment (Pokérus and Power items), it's easy to EV something completely in just one hour.

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i agree too, i dont see the point in searching endlessly for a pokemon virtually identical to your own but with a different nature.
With a different nature, it's not identical. A level 100 Salamence with max Attack has 333 Attack with a Bold nature, 369 with Hasty, and 405 with Lonely. That's 72 points of difference which can be made by just spending a bit longer catching Bagons.

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As for the "pokemon arn't machines" rants if you love your pokemon you would want the best for them would you not? Then train them
Also, technically Pokémon are machines. A DS is a machine; the game card is a piece of electrical equipment; why should the Pokémon themselves count as any different? I'm not saying it's bad to think otherwise; just that in reality, it's the truth.

And as for the original topic, I usually EV Pokémon first. However, once I've done that, I train them normally to learn moves, evolve etc. As for team choices, I do use my favourites - I don't even have a Garchomp or a Blissey, yet my Pokémon include ones that others may consider not so good, such as Lickilicky, Dunsparce and even Pikachu. Granted, it's harder to win, but it makes battles more interesting when you're not just seeing the same old Bronzongs and Weaviles.
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