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Old September 8th, 2008 (11:41 AM). Edited September 8th, 2008 by revelp8.
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I've used this team for quite a while now, but as of late, I haven't been winning my matches, so with this RMT I can probably figure out what I need to fix.




Floatzel @ Leftovers
Ability: Swift swim
Nature: Jolly
EV spread: 252 atk/6 def/252 spe

Bulk Up
Waterfall
Baton Pass
Taunt

This lil weasel is just too awesome. Outspeeds most leads save for crobat and totally cripples walls trying to lead. After a bulk up, I can take down most pokes save for other water/types as well as being able to BP to a better suited pokemon.

Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Nature: Adamant
Ev Spread: 216 HP/16 Atk/176 Def/100 Spe

Dragon Dance
Ice Fang/EQ/SE
Aqua Tail
Taunt

My second water-type for this team. With Intimidate, this pseudo water dragon can take a hit and hit back hard with STAB aqua tail. For things trying to switch out, I dragon dance and incoming walls get nice taunt to get them to attack.

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Calm
Ev Spread: 148 HP / 252 Def / 108 SpA

Flamethrower
T-Wave
Seismic Toss
Softboiled

This has become THE staple of my team as of late. I usually baton pass the bulk ups from floatzel to this pink blob so that its better suited to take a hit, which it does. T-wave so that i can outspeed things and use softboiled if im in a ditch. Seismic Toss for the 100 HP damage. I usually attract steels for some odd reason, so flamethrower is a must have. I've seen the damage its done as it OHKOs scizor and 2OHKO Skarmory and Lucario, (OHKO if I get a critical)

Donphan @ Muscle Band
Ability: Sturdy
Nature: Impish
Ev Spread: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 252 Def

Ice Shard/knock off
Rapid Spin
EQ
Counter

Trying to set up spikes or SR? sure, lemme bring in this nifty elephant and he'll blow them away with Rapid Spin. My main garchomp counter as well, since Outrage does 120 base, my donphan takes that hit and gives back DOUBLE. Also, being able to knock off leftovers on opposing pokemon is awesome, no recovery item for you!

Gengar @ wide lens
Ability: Levitate
Nature: Modest
Ev Spread: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

Hypnosis
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast

My standard special Sweeper, put things to sleep and rips you a new one as I shoot balls of fury at you.

Heracross @ Life Orb/choice scarf
Ability: Guts
Nature: Adamant
Ev Spread: 252 Atk / 6 SpD / 252 Spe

Swords Dance/SE
Night Slash
Megahorn
Close Combat

This is an absolute monster in the attacking department. STAB megahorn and CC does a lot of damage and is able to OHKO many things, even more so when i come in on a predicted WoW/t-wave/toxic.

So please RMT and give feedback. If you're going to say things like uberfail, gets destroyed by mixedape without some sort of advice on how to take care of it, then your comment is going to be ignored.
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...Bold Blissey?

Calm Blissey's much better at special walling; with a Calm nature and a lot of SPDEF EV's, she won't be 2HKO'd by Specs Zam's Focus Blast or SpecsLuke's Aura Sphere.
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...Bold Blissey?

Calm Blissey's much better at special walling; with a Calm nature and a lot of SPDEF EV's, she won't be 2HKO'd by Specs Zam's Focus Blast or SpecsLuke's Aura Sphere.
Agreed. And Muscle Band on Donphan? >_> Needz moar Leftiez. :P
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ScarfApe weak, it hits everything on the team for super effective, and put a huge hole in your entire team. I'd reccomend something over either Donphan or Floatzel. A Cresselia comes to mind, but Vaporeon could work.
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ScarfApe weak, it hits everything on the team for super effective, and put a huge hole in your entire team. I'd reccomend something over either Donphan or Floatzel. A Cresselia comes to mind, but Vaporeon could work.
A Starmie works well, and counters Infernape, I suggest adding him.
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ScarfApe weak, it hits everything on the team for super effective, and put a huge hole in your entire team. I'd reccomend something over either Donphan or Floatzel. A Cresselia comes to mind, but Vaporeon could work.
wouldn't that add to the electric type weakness? Im thinking about it. hmm, although, i have yet to face a scarfape. never seen one o.O

must be a rare species.

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You could keep Donphan, and remove Floatzel, thus not adding an electric weakness.
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Bold Blissey is only meant to take a COUPLE more hits.

but, your talking Bulk Up passing? So I'd run a calm nature as previously mentioned.

That donphan spread is weird, Shard for Priority ftw.
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that obviously makes sense. ok then, i gotta change that up to a calm nature bliss. and knock off for ice shard for donphan. although i don't know what i should change the ev spread for bliss and donphan

Im really liking my floatzel though, is there another way around to fix all that?
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I am concerned about Modest on Gengar. Sure, it gives it that little more oomph, but you can no longer oustpeed the base 100 group or Garchomp, which is a huge factor in Gengar's usefulness.

You want to keep Blissey at near full health, as otherwise you face a serious Deoxys weakness. I can't think of how to avoid this other than to swap Donphan for Forry. I, personally like to asplode on it, as long as you scout for Subbing ones.
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Old September 9th, 2008 (9:06 AM).
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you mean forry as a spiker and then boom!?

i got one like it.

a little too unsure on the Evs, but i know for sure to max HP and give some to def while atk is so that explosion actually does some damage.



forrestress @ leftovers/shed shell
252 HP/126 atk/126 def
Nature: Impish
Ability: Sturdy

Spikes
Gyro Ball
Explosion
Rapid Spin

i think that could replace donphan. but once i explode, entry hazards will become a problem once again, but hopefully, i take them out with me before i explode. >.>
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Old September 9th, 2008 (9:41 AM). Edited September 9th, 2008 by BeachBoy.
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WEll for Deoxys just Gyro ball, the damage that iwll do is catastrophic

Thats right Fabian
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If you're using Gyro Ball, USE RELAXED to power it up. If Gyro Ball does more damage based on how much slower you are than your opponent, if you use a nature that slows it down even more, then Gyro Ball gets stronger, right?
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Old September 9th, 2008 (3:17 PM).
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ah! ok, ill replace donphan with forry and go relaxed.

thanks for the input.
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