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Old September 10th, 2008 (1:11 PM). Edited September 11th, 2008 by DarkTyphlosion157.
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First time around this deleted itself, new forums always act up for me. As a consquence for having glitchy forums, you shall get Pokemons, but not explanations. Well, not until I see this on the topic menu of course.

For Suspect Ladder.

Typhlosion w. Expert Belt
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 176 Spd, 232 SpAtk, 100 Atk
Naive Nature
Fire Blast
Focus Punch
Substitute
Hidden Power Ice

Never expected. Most Typhlosion leads are CSPhlo, so the Heatrans or Blisseys that come in to absorb Eruption are in for a shock when I SubPunch them.

Gyarados w. Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 216 HP, 148 Def, 144 Spd
Adamant Nature
Stone Edge
Taunt
Waterfall
Dragon Dance

The new BulkyDos. 216/16/176/100 has been proven to be wrong peoples...

Heracross w. Choice Band
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
Adamant Nature
Close Combat
Stone Edge
Pursuit
Megahorn

Standard, sadly my little HP Bug joke didn't go down to well...

Vaporeon w. Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Def, 124 HP, 132 SpDef
Bold Nature
Surf
Hidden Power Electric
Wish
Protect

Heatran and Gyarados counter. The jury is still up to whether this can take on Mixmence reliably or not.

Donphan w. Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP, 6 Atk, 252 Def
Impish Nature
Ice Shard
Earthquake
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock

Rapid Spinner. Otherwise 2 SR weak sweepers = fail.

Heatran w. Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP, 60 Def, 136 SpAtk, 60 SpDef
Lava Plume
Earth Power
Rest
Sleep Talk

RestTalk Heatran. Its the future folks. Currently testing Shed Shell as item.

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Old September 10th, 2008 (1:24 PM). Edited September 10th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Whats with the Hidden power Bug on Hera? Its special lol. Just use Megahorn.

I also generally prefer shed shell on my Rest-talk Tran since duggy is an idiot =/.

Ive used that same Typhlosion set, however i found Salac berry more useful and + 1 speed + Blaze is fun, although ill leave that up to you =p.

Anyways not that much to say tbh, it looks really solid. Just watch out for your occasional Mixmence. However that can be beaten with prediction, so you should be fine.
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Old September 10th, 2008 (1:39 PM).
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Wow, you weren't kidding when you said you were from serebii

Anyways, if you want to run CB cross, then no Hp bug. It's special and hera has low spatt.

And if you want to run typhlosion, go scarf pl0x.
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Old September 11th, 2008 (6:30 AM).
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Jesus Christ. Just how dumb are you lot? Did you HONESTLY think I would put HP Bug on CBHera?

And Vaporeon counters Mixmence.
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Old September 11th, 2008 (6:52 AM).
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Heracross w. Choice Band
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Adamant Nature
Close Combat
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Jesus Christ. Just how dumb are you lot? Did you HONESTLY think I would put HP Bug on CBHera?
Whoa, hey, take a chill pill. There's no reason to insult people when you were the one to put it there.

And I agree with D_A, with the spike of Heatran on the suspect ladder, (Top 5 usage iirc) Dugtrio will be common & annoying, and seeing as you rely on Heatran for absorbing status and such. Just more of a reason to put shed shell there. You have restalk anywho, so it's not like you're losing a lot.
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So Dugtrio is back from complete disuse? Hmm, I have got to test the Shed Shell then...
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Claydol and Sharpedo is not UU (for me). You are a lot of weak to Heracross (Camerupt cannot hold up 2 Close Combat), also Lucario can bother you.
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Old September 11th, 2008 (7:04 AM). Edited September 11th, 2008 by Dark Azelf.
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Jesus Christ. Just how dumb are you lot? Did you HONESTLY think I would put HP Bug on CBHera?

And Vaporeon counters Mixmence.
I dont know who you are, so i wouldnt know whether you would put HP Bug on a CB Hera. But yeah, i kinda gathered it was a joke, so i mentioned it anyways just to make sure. (Ive seen far worse on stuff that wasn't meant to be a joke, trust me lol)

And vappy is a bad Mixmence counter tbh considering it has a good change to be 2hko'd with DM and with SR up thats a definite 2hko.

But as i said you have resistances and can outpredict it.
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How much does Mixmence's Draco Meteor do to 124/132 Vaporeon?
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How much does Mixmence's Draco Meteor do to 124/132 Vaporeon?
61.81% - 72.69% <--First Draco

31.25% - 36.81% <-- Second -2 Sp.att Draco.
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Brick Break to 124/252 Bold Vaporeon? *Getting a little mathamatical insurance*
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Brick Break to 124/252 Bold Vaporeon? *Getting a little mathamatical insurance*
Damage: 21.53% - 25.46%

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Hmm...so I can only get beaten if I switch into Draco Meteor. Even then, with Stealth Rock up, there's about a 50% chance of getting owned. No Stealth Rock means I win. As in WishProtect until its out of DM PP that is.
I don't consider it that big of a weakness.
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