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Old September 14th, 2008 (11:06 AM).
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Oh I agree ^_^ But if we're talking the physical/special capabilities of Pokemon...well actually, it's Pokemon, it isn't supposed to make sense.
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I still think Crobat + Heat Wave is entirely stupid.
The little kids it scares at night scream with such intensity it gets mad, causing a wave of heat to emit from the mouth... burning the little childr-- I mean... oh yeah, of course. |D Seriously dude, it's Pocket Monsters, don't try to make logic out of it. Manatric (spelling <<) had Overheat, no-one really complained with that as far as I know.

Seriously, by far Bullet Punch Scizor. :F And Outraging Salamence and Ice Punch Lucario say hi! o/ This will bring some much needed competitive creativity to the forefront. =D
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Stupid Salamence shouldn't have Ominous Wind either.
Or Togekiss, what the heck is Ominous about a giant lovable fatball?

But I agree, this makes battling more fun!
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The little kids it scares at night scream with such intensity it gets mad, causing a wave of heat to emit from the mouth... burning the little childr-- I mean... oh yeah, of course. |D Seriously dude, it's Pocket Monsters, don't try to make logic out of it. Manatric (spelling <<) had Overheat, no-one really complained with that as far as I know.

Seriously, by far Bullet Punch Scizor. :F And Outraging Salamence and Ice Punch Lucario say hi! o/ This will bring some much needed competitive creativity to the forefront. =D
Dont forget Zapdos with Heatwave that is just too nice.
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Stupid Salamence shouldn't have Ominous Wind either.
Or Togekiss, what the heck is Ominous about a giant lovable fatball?
What's the point in complaining or making sense out of Pocket Monsters? XD I mean c'mon AJ, it's not that big of a deal. And Togekiss has a dark side, a very very dark side. ...hohoho, hax.

Tutors do what? Teach the abilities they have mastered and transfer it to a Pocket Monster. You wouldn't know 2+2 if your teacher didn't teach you, so why can't an imaginary creature learn? That's how I think of it. Although some are level up, so you could imagine that in other ways, use your imagination. XD Frankly, I find it all funny, it's not like a "HAHA SO STUPID IT'S FUNNY" I just like seeing some cool moves on some different Pocket Monsters. They're mixing things up a bit, and I really like that.

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Moltres and Zapdos were at the bar one night?
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I know.
I'm just trying to make sense of some of the stupidity.

It is fun though!
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Moltres and Zapdos were at the bar one night?
If I only knew how to put quotes in my sig lol but serouisly why can't zapdos have heat wave electricty can make heat if it turn into fire .
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why can't zapdos have heat wave electricty can make heat if it turn into fire .
Now it does!
Now all we need to do is give Articuno Fire Blast, and the world will be complete.
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Now it does!
Now all we need to do is give Articuno Fire Blast, and the world will be complete.
Or any means of Physics that applied to Pokemon will be turned upside down as we know it. XD
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Anyone heard of Monkey's throwing their own poo?

That explains Infernape's Gunk Shot.
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wait....that list can't be complete, can it? o.o

I was certain I'd be able to teach Thunderpunch to my Metagross without breeding for one in Emerald....

Though Outraging Snorlax will be awesome to see. XDD
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If I only knew how to put quotes in my sig lol but serouisly why can't zapdos have heat wave electricty can make heat if it turn into fire .
Actually, that's a fantastic point, I never thought of it that way. Electricity can create fire, so why not? Haha. Well said, Kittyipawd.

Anywho, on competitive discussion. I really like these changes, it might change some tier status, but it'll definitely change some things, how we play what etc. Puts more of an emphasis on predicting correctly just like this metagame has changed to, instead of the simple "counter" anymore. Bye bye 100% Lucario counter. XD I can't wait to play this metagame with all these changes.
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I k ow, I dont think it is complete because Muk didnt get the punches either and Persian usually gets swift.
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Speaking of the Metagame.
I believe with the introduction of Magnet Rise on Luxray, it will be put into BL.
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Platinum should definitely shake some things up Metagame-wise....I think it'll be very interesting.

Togekiss has shadow ball already, so I'd say it's pretty ominous =O
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I believe with the introduction of Magnet Rise on Luxray, it will be put into BL.
I agree, this time around they really took risks dont you think. Elctivire should get this too then.
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I always liked Luxray, he was on my original in-game team....I think he could be effective enough to be BL
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Even with Magnet rise it has to out speed the EQer, its not really fast enough for it in my opinion
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Anyone think the addition of some of these moves will push any Pokemon to uber or OU status?
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Magnet Rise Luxray is not that good.

You all should be happy it got Superpower. But Magnet Rise isn't going to do much for him, specially with that subpar Speed stat.
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Anyone think the addition of some of these moves will push any Pokemon to uber or OU status?
Mence gets outrage....and already has DD. Could be a contender to take chomps spot at the top of OU....
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Mence gets outrage....and already has DD. Could be a contender to take chomps spot at the top of OU....
Definately. Now Im afraid of them.
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Mence gets outrage....and already has DD. Could be a contender to take chomps spot at the top of OU....
It may compete with Lucario for top OU. (As Gengar takes a huge hit with all these additions, 60% Hypnosis, Bullet Punch Scizor, etc) Although I don't think any of this whole"MENCE WILL BE UBER, JUST LIKE CHOMP" That's just a load of bs, frankly. :/ Yes, it's deadly indeed, but it doesn't have luck (sand veil) is somewhat dampered by Stealth Rock, not the same level as Chomp, but can definitely be the next top OU.

Overall, Gengar's hit will mean Mence vs. Luke for top OU. Now that Lucario takes care of Gliscor, yet suffers from moveslot syndrome. :(
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I still don't find them that threatening, I highly doubt many Salamence users are going to switch to a Yache Berry set like Chomp had. Salamence doesn't have Chomp's defenses, so if you ice beam chomp with a non-stab attacker he doesn't OHKO, where as Salamence does because of his lame defenses.

But yes, with the addition of Outrage I believe he'll now take his reign back as the top dragon contendah.


Everyone still counts the 3 birds in the same tiers as they were?
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Moltres and Articuno are just as useless as they've always been.
And Zapdos isn't going to go any higher than OU, so yes.
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