monarch deck

Started by jakex September 28th, 2008 12:10 PM
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Posted September 22nd, 2009
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I am going to regionals and here is my deck, any suggestions thx

Monsters:

Mobius the frost monarch x2
caius the shadow monarch x3
raiza the storm monarch
Thestalos the firestorm monarch x2
zaborg the thunder monarch x2

montage dragon
jinzo
cyber dragon
marshmallon
sangan
treeborn frog
exiled force x2
twin headed behemoth
D.D warrior lady
breaker the magical warrior
spirit reaper

spells:
heavy storm
M.S.T
Monster reborn
soul exchange x2
shield crush
book of moon
swords of revealing light
brain control
pot of avarice
lightning vortex

traps:
sakuretsu armor x2
bottomless trap hole x2
forced back x2
threatning roar
defense draw

Plz any suggestions for my side deck


plz comment
In a House
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Posted January 22nd, 2010
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Make the following changes to your main deck:

-1 Montage Dragon (WTF?)
-1 Defense Draw
-2 Forced Back (Side Decked, if you must)
-2 Exiled Force
-2 Mobius the Frost Monarch (side decked)
-1 Swords of Revealing Light
-1 Shield Crush
-1 Book of Moon
-2 Zaborg the Thunder Monarch (side decked)
-1 Marshmallon

+2 Reinforcement of the Army
+1 Elemental Hero Stratos
+3 Destiny Hero- Malicious
+2 Destiny Draw
+1 Foolish Burial
+2 Prime Material Dragon
+2 Jutte Fighter

Extra Deck:
+ Stardust Dragon
+ Red Dragon's Archfiend
+Goyou Guardian
+Magical Android
+Collosal Fighter
+ Avenging Knight Parshath

Seriously, you need to adjust your build to accomodate Synchros- or at the very least, add the two Jutte Fighters. And Destiny Hero Malicious is at three, yet you're not using it? Bad form. Very Bad. Don't bother to main deck all your monarchs. Save some of that room for prime material dragon.

Also, it might be better to try something along the lines of an Emergency Teleport Monarch, by swapping out your Jutte Fighters for a pair of Krebons, along with a few copies of Emergency Teleport. Think Teleport DAD, but without running the pricy dragon and using a monarch backbone to back up your Synchros. Hey, it might work.

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Posted January 22nd, 2010
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Umm its monarch control not monarch synchro
Any deck that can run a tuner or two should. Synchro monsters add an entirely new control aspect to the game, and if you really don't like them, think about it: tuning into Stardust Dragon means that you have an undestroyable monster by most conventional means. Goyou Guardian can crush just about any monster your opponent summons, and then turns them into free monarch fodder for your next turn. And aside from that, Jutte Fighter fits well into any deck that can easily run Reinforcement of the Army, due to its typing and level, and it kicks butt. The control aspect is still there- especially considering the presence of Prime Material Dragon, one of the best cards for a Monarch deck to run- but now you've got a toolbox of monsters you can access and use to put the kibosh on your opponent, or at least make things very hard on them.

Besides, you don't have to run Monarch control, right? I mean, you're trying to play the best budget deck you possibly can, correct? I mean, Stardust Dragon has a freaking tin, so there's no need to go around hunting for it.

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Umm...Thesis? I would seriously not drop Exiled from this if you want to invest in warriors (in which case that should be three Reinforcement). It's still the easiest one-card answer this thing can kick out against Heraklinos or any other given big beater. Also...two Destiny Draw when there's only one card you really want to discard for it (we only ever want to draw one Malicious, srsly) is NG. If you want Destiny Draw in there, you need more D-Hero too. Personally, I'm not too wild about Twin-Headed here since this deck has no way to search it out bar Sangan. Also, Foolish Burial when we already have Malicious overtaxed with trying to fuel those Destiny Draws and Frog is our only other viable option? Eh. xO

That being said, though, the point on synchros remains. If you don't have any, you can expect to get hammered by those who have. Monarch control thrives on stealing monsters from your opponent; I don't see any reason not to throw in another venue to put what you steal to good use. If you don't have synchros and tuners to use, though, then it obviously can't be helped. So here ya' go; a non-tuner fix. Just be warned; you would better off with the synchros.

Anywho, another way to go about this:

-1 Defense Draw
-2 Forced Back
-1 Marshmallon
-2 Mobius the Frost Monarch
-1 Montage Dragon
-1 Pot of Avarice
-2 Sakuretsu Armor
-1 Shield Crush
-1 Swords of Revealing Light
-1 Twin-Headed Behemoth
-2 Zaborg the Thunder Monarch

+2 Compulsory Evacuation Device/Phoenix Wing Wind Blast
+1 Cyber Dragon
+2 D.D. Crow
+2 Enemy Controller
+2 Prime Material Dragon
+3 Reinforcement of the Army
+3 Spell Striker

So...cuts first. Defense Draw and Montage Dragon just made me go 'WTF'. No matter how hard I look, I just can't see your reasoning behind including them in the first place. The same goes for Shield Crush; this is a slow control deck, so your opponent will most likely be trying to swing over you most of the time, and when they don't, you should be stealing away their monsters or blowing them up with monarchs anyway. Crush just doesn't seem to have a place here. The same goes for Pot of Avarice. You're really not loading the graveyard up with monsters in any big way, so it's just liable to end up as a dead draw in a situation where you really needed to have answer. I would also suggest giving Twin-Headed the axe. Sure, it comes back after it's destroyed so you can tribute it, but it's also a free gladiator tag-out before that happens and you have no recruiters to fetch it. If you used some form of wind or dragon toolbox then sure, but on it's own..? I don't think so. :\ Would also suggest dropping Marshmallon for similar reasons, as it - unlike reaper - can be stolen and used as your opponent's tribute fodder. Your monarch lineup also needs to be trimmed down. Yes, they're your win condition, but they are also a big pile of monsters all crying for tributes and liable to mess up your draws badly. Zaborg is just an inferior Caius these days and Mobius is highly unlikely to ever hit two cards than won't be chained in its face, so drop those. The better monarchs should still be enough for what you intend to do and, as Thesis already mentioned, there's another one-tribute monster that would help this deck a lot more. Finally, I'd suggest cutting swords out of this since wanton effect destruction is still rampant so it won't live long. Dark Armed and Lightsworn have a lot less trouble with the backrow than the waning gladiators do. Suggest cutting Sakuretsu for the same reason. Not only does it leave ample opportunity for S/Ts to be played before it can trigger, we now also have to factor in Stardust Dragon, who can just negate it on a whim too. Much the same reasons that Mirror Force sees so little play these days too.

So yeah, basically my idea would be to focus on a warrior lineup, which you would have easy access to thanks to the newly unlimited Reinforcement. Spell Striker is very nice here, as it just screams 'free tribute fodder'. You are not doing anything with your spell cards once you put them in the yard, so you are completely free to pitch one away for this little guy and then trade it for a monarch to smash your opponent's face with. If you searched that striker with Reinforcement, all the better; that means it's already ready to go for that same reinforcement you fetched it with. Depending on the situation, you might also want to use your striker as fodder for Enemy Controller to steal a big attacker and swing for game, or - hey, it might just happen - just use it to attack directly and deliver the most humiliating finisher blow since Rescue Cat. XD And speaking of Enemy Controller, it's a chainable defensive option and combos magnificently with Treeborn Frog and Sangan for more monster theft, so I'd strongly recommend it. Effect destruction is still big in this format, so since you can't hide behind Stardust, Prime Material is also your friend. Its anti-burn effect will also ensure that any rogue burn decks you might run into will have a much harder time right off the bat. D.D. Crow is there because the top decks right now all still rely on the graveyard, a lot, so if you want to play control you'll have to have some way to fight those graveyard recursion mechanics and Crow is still the number one option on that front. Finally, you'll want something in your deck that synchros really don't like. Sure, Forced Back stops monarchs, but aside from the occasional Caius from Teleport Dark Armed, you really won't be seeing any. Compulsory, on the other hand, can spin your opponents painstakingly summoned synchros right back into their extra deck. You can also use it to clear Heraklinos off the field, put Malicious back in your opponent's hand, or chain it to Dark Armed Dragon's destruction effect (ideally, one targeting your Evacuation Device to begin with) to leave your opponent with a dead Dark Armed in hand and their precious dark count messed up. Phoenix Wing is better against non-synchro/-fusion targets as it also costs your opponent their next draw, but it also costs you an in-hand card, so you'll have to decide whether you want to go down that route or not.


As for siding...well, just in case Little City makes a surprise entrance, you'll probably want to pack some form of extra S/T removal to counteract Skill Drain and Royal Oppression. Nobleman of Extermination is also a fun card, as you can use it to bait out Solemn Judgment (and half your opponent's life points) or, if the targeted card is Solemn, get rid of all copies of your opponent's strongest negation card for the rest of the duel. Both very appealing prospects. And speaking of Solemn, that's another solid choice. It negates nearly everything, which is a huge boon for control type approaches. Beyond that...I'd have to think more. Side decks were never my strong suit. :x
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Posted September 22nd, 2009
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i just wanna easy and low on budget monarch control deck plz, and with a side deck to swap out to make monarch/removal.

i do not have the money to buy d-draws and maliciouses.

Monsters:

twin headed behemoth
light and darkness dragon
zaborg the thunder monarch-2
sangan
d-d warrior lady
jinzo
montage dragon
marshmallon
treeborn frog
spirit reaper
penten the dark clown -3
breaker the magical warrior
exiled force -2
cyber dragon
caius the shadow monarch -3
mobius the frost monarch
raiza the storm monarch


spells

reinforcements of the army
lightning vortex
book of moon
monster reborn
brain control
foolish burial x2
sul exchange
heavy storm
pot of avarice
swords of revealing light
nobleman of crossout
MST

traps

negate attack
sakuretsu armor-2
defense draw
forced back
threatning roar
bottomless trap hole-2

side deck

thestalos the firestorm monarch
grand convergance
dark spirit art-greed
rerturn from the different dimension
hand destruction
d.d survivor x2
bazoo the soul-eater
gren maju da eiza
banisher of the radiance
d.d scout plane
dimensional fissur-2
macro casmos-2

Forci Stikane

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Seen August 11th, 2009
Posted August 11th, 2009
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i just wanna easy and low on budget monarch control deck plz, and with a side deck to swap out to make monarch/removal.

i do not have the money to buy d-draws and maliciouses.
Compulsory Evacuation Device: Common from certain structure decks, Rare from the pack

Reinforcement of the Army: Common from warrior structure deck and certain reprint packs

Cyber Dragon: Tim promo, should be easier to come by now that it's Limited

D.D. Crow: Rare from the pack (and one that's not that hard to pull, either)

Foolish Burial: Common

Jutte Fighter: Common

There is NO excuse not to be able to find those, either for sale at a card shop or trade for them from other people once you get there.

You should also pay attention to the fixes you're being given. Both Thesis and Alter Ego have suggested dropping Zaborg, Mobius, and Montage Dragon, yet I still see them in that new decklist. Seriously, Alter Ego gave you good reason for Zaborg and Montage Dragon is too wasteful for a deck like this (you need to discard three monsters from your hand, which would be much better used as tributes or tribute fodder, depending). That new Light & Darkness Dragon I see is even worse here, since you actually want your Monarch effects to go off and I don't see much here that would make it worthwhile for the recursion effect.

Follow the advice you've been given. Most of the cards suggested aren't that expensive...and you can trade that Montage Dragon off to help with the rest. :)
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Posted September 22nd, 2009
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he recommended more than that and like say i can't buy anything since i just bought yesterday jinzo,montage dragon,threating roar and the tricky, so yeah this is what i got, it probably will work it has, but it takes longer to use

Thease are all the cards that i can use currently, that i think might help plz just look at them and pick ones and make a deck list out of it


creature swap
hammer shot
trap hole
dekochi
black horn o heaven
ghost gardna


Mobius the frost monarch x2
caius the shadow monarch x3
raiza the storm monarch
Thestalos the firestorm monarch x2
zaborg the thunder monarch x2

montage dragon
jinzo
cyber dragon
marshmallon
sangan
treeborn frog
exiled force x2
twin headed behemoth
D.D warrior lady
breaker the magical warrior
spirit reaper
heavy storm
M.S.T
Monster reborn
soul exchange x2
shield crush
book of moon
swords of revealing light
brain control
pot of avarice
lightning vortex
sakuretsu armor x2
bottomless trap hole x2
forced back x2
threatning roar
defense draw
scapegoat
panther warrior

and the removal structure deck

i wanted to replace this deck with a removal monarch deck