3rd Gen Shouldn't bad eggs be illigal

Started by blaster395 October 18th, 2008 8:29 AM
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Nah, if you cheat that much, then you kinda deserve it (as far as I know, you get bad eggs from really abusive cheats, such as catching trainer's pokemon). If you're concerned about bad eggs, then don't cheat.
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The bad egg is freakin' scary, yes; but it's there to teach hackers a lesson. I mean honestly, stealing other trainers' Pokemon? <<;;
And it can be really fun to exploit (how many shinies and Pokerus did I get on my Emerald ROM from those things, only to have it all go down the crapper whenever I checked their stats? xDD) so I think it's fine the way it is.
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Couldent they make an Action replay blocker to kill any action replay that attempts to hack em
also thats why i dont cheat!
Action Replay blockers can be gotten around with ease using more action replay codes.

The action replay itself has in the instuctions that its use can lead to corrupted data and even corrupted game carts and as far as I'm aware (I don't use cheating devices so my exposure to the bad EGG is limited and comes from second-hand accounts so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) it only corrupts the save data, not the actual game so you don't lose anything except time. If you valued the savegame so much you wouldn't have risked it in the first place.

I really don't see the problem, personally. I agree with the 'if you don't like it, don't cheat' line of thinking.

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if you don't want Bad eggs then don't extreme Hack such as stealing Pokemon and Maxing out stats and the such. Bad eggs are terrible but so is extreme hacking...Some hacks are ok but some ruin the game a little.

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I think bad eggs are deserved..
If you hack then yeah..you deserve it.
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Bad Eggs are just the developers way of teaching you a lesson. I mean, if you made something for kids to play with, and then had them cheating just to finish, you would want to stop them, right?
The moral of the story is "cheaters never win". You should continue the game and finish it on your own.
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If I was a GF developer, I would have put much more sinister consequences than a stupid bad egg. I would have added code that when an AR/GS code was used, it would totally corrupt the game data, rendering the cart absolutely useless. This would actually increase sales for the company since the cheaters would probably purchase the game again (or a few times) before they realized what had happened.

Something less permanent would be for every time a cheat code was used, a random box in the PC would be wiped out. That would be so funny if someone had a bunch of shiny Pokemon in a box, used a cheat code, and then they all disappeared. Better yet, every time a cheat code was used, the game would automatically reset. I like that idea even better.

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If I was a GF developer, I would have put much more sinister consequences than a stupid bad egg. I would have added code that when an AR/GS code was used, it would totally corrupt the game data, rendering the cart absolutely useless. This would actually increase sales for the company since the cheaters would probably purchase the game again (or a few times) before they realized what had happened.

Something less permanent would be for every time a cheat code was used, a random box in the PC would be wiped out. That would be so funny if someone had a bunch of shiny Pokemon in a box, used a cheat code, and then they all disappeared. Better yet, every time a cheat code was used, the game would automatically reset. I like that idea even better.
That would be a great idea. It's bad enough hackers ruin there own fun. But when they use hacked Pokemon with other people they need a better punishment.

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If I was a GF developer, I would have put much more sinister consequences than a stupid bad egg. I would have added code that when an AR/GS code was used, it would totally corrupt the game data, rendering the cart absolutely useless. This would actually increase sales for the company since the cheaters would probably purchase the game again (or a few times) before they realized what had happened.

Something less permanent would be for every time a cheat code was used, a random box in the PC would be wiped out. That would be so funny if someone had a bunch of shiny Pokemon in a box, used a cheat code, and then they all disappeared. Better yet, every time a cheat code was used, the game would automatically reset. I like that idea even better.
Seems like a stupid idea to me. Many people hack the game just for fun, to see what kind of weird crap they can do with/to the game. Your idea would punish people who just want to have innocent fun, which is the reason they bought the game in the first place. Sure, people who hack can potentially spoil aspects of the game for others, but you can't simply do that to everyone who wants to experiment with the game data.

In my opinion, the only way your idea of wiping data like that would be a 'good' thing is if someone tried to trade/migrate hacked Pokemon.

Let people corrupt their own games. After enough hacking, they will ruin it for themselves.
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Seems like a stupid idea to me. Many people hack the game just for fun, to see what kind of weird crap they can do with/to the game. Your idea would punish people who just want to have innocent fun, which is the reason they bought the game in the first place. Sure, people who hack can potentially spoil aspects of the game for others, but you can't simply do that to everyone who wants to experiment with the game data.

In my opinion, the only way your idea of wiping data like that would be a 'good' thing is if someone tried to trade/migrate hacked Pokemon.

Let people corrupt their own games. After enough hacking, they will ruin it for themselves.
Hey! there's a difference between hacking and action replay hacking, I think the bad egg is a good punishment.
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Hey! there's a difference between hacking and action replay hacking, I think the bad egg is a good punishment.
As do I. Bad eggs are a result of corrupted data, which in turn is a result of an amateur/excessive cheater.

I was referring to his idea to completely wipe the cartridge of all its data as a built-in anti-cheating device.
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If I was a GF developer, I would have put much more sinister consequences than a stupid bad egg. I would have added code that when an AR/GS code was used, it would totally corrupt the game data, rendering the cart absolutely useless. This would actually increase sales for the company since the cheaters would probably purchase the game again (or a few times) before they realized what had happened.

Something less permanent would be for every time a cheat code was used, a random box in the PC would be wiped out. That would be so funny if someone had a bunch of shiny Pokemon in a box, used a cheat code, and then they all disappeared. Better yet, every time a cheat code was used, the game would automatically reset. I like that idea even better.
Honestly, that sounds more like an antipiracy measure. Lots of games will do things like that to people who try and pirate the game.
This game features an antipiracy measure sorta like that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyoV1bkXNI

As for the action replay stuff, sometiems people hack to see funny results. Sometimes they mess with the data on their own to do stuff. Sure, some people abuse hacking (perfect stats, perfect IV's, etc), but most people who do it do it small time (I.e. creating more moonstones in R/S/E, or making eggs hatch faster.) Those aren't really worth corrupting games for. Especially considering that if they start pulling that, they lose profits because a lot of people enjoy cheating and therefore, they'd sell less.
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I think to wipe-out players data just beacuse they are trying to have fun with it in thier own ways would just give them bad advertising, and no one would buy thier games.......
Exactly. If someone's game was ruined that way, they probably wouldn't run out to buy another copy of it. More than likely, they would resort to a ROM and emulator instead.
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You can rationalize it all you want, but cheating is cheating. I don't think Game Freak factors in consumers that purchase the game just so they can cheat, when forcasting its sales. The percentage of people that wouldn't purchase the game just because they couldn't cheat cannot be too high. That really isn't the topic at hand though. My comment is not only should bad eggs not be illegal, but I would add even stricter penalties for those that attempt to change the very nature of the game. Just feel fortunate that someone like me isn't in charge of QA testing for GF. Heh.
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You can rationalize it all you want, but cheating is cheating. I don't think Game Freak factors in consumers that purchase the game just so they can cheat, when forcasting its sales. The percentage of people that wouldn't purchase the game just because they couldn't cheat cannot be too high. That really isn't the topic at hand though. My comment is not only should bad eggs not be illegal, but I would add even stricter penalties for those that attempt to change the very nature of the game.
I never said people wouldn't buy the game simply because they couldn't cheat. I said it would be unlikely for people to buy the same game again. And it ties in perfectly with the topic at hand, since bad eggs are a consequence of cheating. I'm surprised you aren't pushing for a trigger device that bricks peoples' GBAs/DSs.
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I never said people wouldn't buy the game simply because they couldn't cheat. I said it would be unlikely for people to buy the same game again. And it ties in perfectly with the topic at hand, since bad eggs are a consequence of cheating. I'm surprised you aren't pushing for a trigger device that bricks peoples' GBAs/DSs.
The topic at hand is consequences for cheating, not game sales. I will assume that "bricks" means breaks, and I never even thought of that. Having their cart become useless is nasty, but causing the GBA/DS to become corrupt and useless would be absolutely brutal! I like the way you think.
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The topic at hand is consequences for cheating, not game sales. I will assume that "bricks" means breaks, and I never even thought of that. Having their cart become useless is nasty, but causing the GBA/DS to become corrupt and useless would be absolutely brutal! I like the way you think.
No, "brick" is a term in electronics that means the device in question has the functionality of a brick.
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Bad Eggs were never put in the game to punish people. We have no proof of that (if anybody has some, please tell me), and I think they wouldn't have released the game if it were to punish people. I don't see a message in the games stating that you cheated and that the game will punish you for doing so. So pretty much it might have been a placeholder.

Do I have a point here?

Also, "bricked" is a figure of speech meaning that something like a DS, PSP, etc. is broken and doesn't work anymore (i.e. not starting up right; not starting up at all.)
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No, they should not be illegal. If anyone needs to steal other's Pokemon (why?), then they deserve it one hundred percent.
Something like item hacking is fine but why do you need NPC's pokemon?
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